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mircea_popescu: but in the end, i say this : the difference between 20999999.9769 and 21000000.0000 is the unpayable change. point of fact remains that we can'
t escape this situation where we draw one thing, and the machine pops up another thing.
mircea_popescu: so then are you saying ada shouldn'
t allow either mod or > ?
mircea_popescu: how are you going to define a sorting rule for a type you don'
t know yet.
mircea_popescu: so this is what i mean by "it's a c" : whatever the fuck you do, it's still going to be an ugly hack where you "can'
t define this" but nevertheless define THAT, which is just as broken.
mircea_popescu: " people don'
t like them, but it is also possibly the case that they've gotten as close as possible." <<< we're in exact agreement, here. no alternative known, and not likely possible.
mircea_popescu: so i don'
t have to point out to you that yes it is, "even" "mod" etc.
mircea_popescu: there's some shoddy solutions for the first. chiefly, c. people don'
t like them, but it is also possibly the case that they've gotten as close as possible.
trinque: because who doesn'
t want to run binary blobs in a web page?
mircea_popescu: oh, don'
t tell me, i could "save setings online and access them from any browser"
mircea_popescu: shares a bar for url and search ? "click here to log what you type in url bar which we now call omnibar" ? there's no way to see cookies, all you can do is "obliterate" items, and limited to "from the past...." so you can'
t actually purge the shitbag ?
davout: guess imma make myself some tea, this isn'
t going to be resolved today at this rate
davout: this znort fellow doesn'
t show up when grepping my logpile
mircea_popescu: there isn'
t any air for the whole "oh i did nothing wrong" contribution.
danielpbarron: well i was able to fix pete's myself and see that it verified, but the same trick didn'
t work on znort's
danielpbarron: hm, that latest bid doesn'
t seem to be signed properly
mircea_popescu: but all in all this is SO MUCH like eulora auctions i can'
t fucking believe.
mircea_popescu: let's study why people who live off the dole don'
t build the empire that was.
PeterL: but isn'
t it the same kinda stuff ALF is always complaining about?
ben_vulpes: man, wouldn'
t it be neat if CBlockIndex weren'
t actually a "tree-shaped structure"?
ben_vulpes: i don'
t...just pointing out the hoops poor d00d had to jump through in order to publish the thing.
ben_vulpes: this is all immaterial. i don'
t disagree that it's a nifty "all in 1".
phf: hence me talking about "bot is brittle, don'
t update refs, etc."
mircea_popescu: that has exactly nothing to do. i don'
t like in that way.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t see him as anything more or anything else than a decoy.
mircea_popescu: hey could lock, another little room. But the point is that people usually don'
t bother to think about that. They have the idea: “This room is Mine, I can lock it, to hell with everyone else”, and that is exactly the spirit that we must teach them not to have.
mircea_popescu: hing they thought might get stolen and they wanted to lock it up, but they didn'
t care about the other people they were affecting by locking up other things in the same room. Almost every time this happened, once I brought it to their attention, that it was not up to them alone whether that room should be locked, they were able to find a compromise solution: some other place to put the things they were worried about, a desk
t mircea_popescu: In the years that followed I was inspired by that ideas, and many times I would climb over ceilings or underneath floors to unlock rooms that had machines in them that people needed to use, and I would usually leave behind a note explaining to the people that they shouldn'
t be so selfish as to lock the door. The people who locked the door were basically considering only themselves. They had a reason of course, there was somet
mircea_popescu: phf that's her isn'
t it ? the woman with a horse face ? carrie something ?
mircea_popescu: they decided to live separated by age groups ; unlike saner people in europe and arab world, they don'
t coerce young women into fucking old men
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think this is a man problem. imo this is a family problem.
phf: but to your genuis of marketing point, not having even a decenarian math within flying distance, i don'
t really see a way out of that one. guys design their systems for the masses, say as much in public, and yet somehow there's wide adoption, because one has to eat
phf: well, even named closures are broken, like in java you can'
t mutate outside state
phf: actually there aren'
t many schemes that are interpreted, it's much more in vogue to compile them, since that's an easy thing to do
phf: mod6: lisp is not always (and not usually) interpreted, i don'
t think there's anything wrong with targeting jvm, except for the fact that jvm itself is not good
mod6: hey, im just posting this here so we don'
t lost it -- this is from funk_ iirc, he never sent it to the list -- i'm told that it "works" but have never tested it myself:
http://dpaste.com/2WTCSHV.txt phf: haskell's answer was to pretend like von neumann machine doesn'
t exist, a goal at which it failed in various interesting ways
mircea_popescu: 2) why the fuck exactly do you think you can get 3 as 2+1 in "natural" space but you don'
t see that you get 4 as 2+1 in "even natural" space ?
mircea_popescu: i don'
t see hospitals using bags of "saline" that come with a "warning : not suitable for use" on them.
mircea_popescu: and don'
t fucking start with the dc current scandal all over again!
davout: asciilifeform: no you don'
t it, so we can tip each other!!1
mircea_popescu: for one thing, those people are schmucks. but even if they weren'
t schmucks, not in wot.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t rightly recall what it was, and i'm not even sure i was yet keeping irc logs at the very early time all this happened.
mircea_popescu: ("you'd have to do it in parallel anyway!" "well if you're doing it anyway, wouldn'
t it be ~rational~ they don';
t do it at all and save the cost ?" << that's the logic.)
danielpbarron: i wouldn'
t mind cutting them a check so much if they came and asked for it; I can'
t stand this whole "you do our work for us" ritual americans do every april
mircea_popescu: of course unlike that guy you don'
t have either millions in assets nor a wife more than happy to get it all in exchange for paying tax on it
mircea_popescu: mmmno. you're thinking of a young man that doesn'
t exist.
mircea_popescu: i'll have to have that rat thing demonstrated, doesn'
t seem to make much sense theoretically.
mircea_popescu: we know for a fact it's no crime to be poor, and what follows is that the law doesn'
t apply to you, just be poor.
mircea_popescu: and in the beat wife sense and in the won'
t pay tax/alimony/whatever sense, and in the stalking and raping sense and in all the fucking senses.
mircea_popescu: in most sane places, the way it works is that if you are RICH the law doesn'
t really apply to you. but in the us - converse.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you are poor in the us, the law doesn'
t (really) apply to you.
mircea_popescu: in particular " Me: He was convicted on fraud charges; not tax avoidance. The prosecution made the case that he knowingly offered false advice in exchange for customer’s money." is a distinction without a difference. writing "extempt" when "you shouldn'
t have" is exactly what "fraud" means in that context.
mircea_popescu: well, poverty is an absolute bar to the workings of law in the us, if you're poor you're priviledged. nevertheless the way this works is that you either say something or go to jail ; and if they decide you didn'
t say the right thing at some previous point you also go to jail.
mircea_popescu: i can'
t see how ? prolly should put a notice to bid in the right place ?
mircea_popescu: trinque> seems the voice model pairs with gossipd rather well, where voicing is a matter of message forwarding rules << it doesn'
t even pair, it IS it. substance of the universe, not even protocol.
trinque: I could just move the password and remove the case where my nick hasn'
t been changed
mircea_popescu: ah. yeah you would. i don'
t think they can maintain ircd loose network and have it do that.
phf: my ping/pong code was not very good. i reworked it yesterday, but haven'
t yet enabled on this guy, so if he falls over, it'll be quietly, and we'll know by lack of logs :D
mircea_popescu: wasn'
t by any means a practical consideration. more of a "thinking about the compiler of the wetware future"
mircea_popescu: i can'
t write sentences with a count at the end saying how many times you have to read them until you get them.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that it being unbounded, it can'
t really be hardware.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, i get the "doc it hurts when i do this" "so don'
t do it then" thing. but ...
phf: well, incremental improvement on ada doesn'
t seem like a particularly interesting problem, thing comes with a lineage, wirth's pascal, modula, oberon; ada fits into that ecosystem, so simply going over wirth's research you can find a lot of existing ideas for ada improvements