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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except i never use a site over https anyway
mircea_popescu: so now what ?
mircea_popescu: a linux box, rather than a router, for convenience.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ideea is, suppose i pass all my traffic through your controlled relay
mircea_popescu: i don't think it has anything to do with the 2fa mtgox issue but anyway
mircea_popescu: anyway, thanks optimator, most entertaining link
mircea_popescu: who the fuck designed this process ;/
mircea_popescu: Used bitcoin-qt and litecoin-qt. For the wallets, those encryption passwords were from memory. The truecrypt password, I always copied and pasted the password from a text file, on a USB drive, inside a password protected winrar file, inside of a password protected winrar file, inside of a password protected winrar file, totaling 3 different password protected rars to reach the .txt file.
mircea_popescu: optimator not sure why people imagine machines locate items by name
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re your router mitm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform give me an example.
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly.
mircea_popescu: "I figured if I was ever the victim of a wallet stealing program, implementing a dummy in the default location would fool it and upload it, rather than my real one, to the attackers choice, but I was wrong."
mircea_popescu: but what the fuck for, seriously.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: on an actual machine ?
mircea_popescu: "I know I've found this one thing that I just have to download and install Java for, then totally forget or put off uninstalling it afterwards, many a time."
mircea_popescu: people actually still use java ?!
mircea_popescu: "In fact, scratch the social engineering, you don't need to convince someone to run your .exe if you can just run your .exe for them via a Java drive-by attack, and admit it, you've left Java installed for extended periods of time, even if you try to keep it uninstalled normally."
mircea_popescu: this.
mircea_popescu: always funny when people with 85 ltc speak of the masses.
mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bitcoind is such a mess it'd be easier to make a million dollars being a janitor.
mircea_popescu: because of the change issue. wallet.dat was stolen
mircea_popescu: actually this is interesting
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1e79ig/how_were_my_encrypted_bitcoin_and_litecoin/c9xjk4s
mircea_popescu: that may have been sniffed maybe >?
mircea_popescu: I used a random 64 character ASCII character password from this site for my truecrypt password.
mircea_popescu: optimator the reason girl said anything/i'm leading some credence to the claim of 2fa is because this isn't the first case i've heard.
mircea_popescu: or gribble colony
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform soft but soft in the sense of amoeba
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: i have yet to see any indication of such wonder in practice.
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: 4 btc ?
mircea_popescu: that good a trojan ?
mircea_popescu: for the simple reason that if anyone ever did most of the us would be so very much less lonely.
mircea_popescu: i doubt anyone actually visited the guy's apartment
mircea_popescu: see, but it'd seem to me you readily argue both ends of this rope.
mircea_popescu: now, returning there : how many times ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> there is only so many times that this can happen without a real effect
mircea_popescu: anuyay, getting back to it. the branch was off
mircea_popescu: but it wouldn't be the first website with a broken 2fa implementation.
mircea_popescu: fuck me. the idea of a website is ridiculous
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be the first website
mircea_popescu: mtgox does.
mircea_popescu: the chump has no history of lieing
mircea_popescu: maybe.
mircea_popescu: no, it does not have to be.
mircea_popescu: 90% of thje top accounts would be hit simultaneously.
mircea_popescu: if indeed this was an attack able to cut through their (braindead) 2fa implementation
mircea_popescu: you'd have to be born last night to actually believe this.
mircea_popescu: NOW what you do with this ion cannon is steal random 4 btc wallet ?
mircea_popescu: which is insane, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: and let's presume for a moment you have no better use for it than btc.
mircea_popescu: listen. suppose you actually have the tech to own yubikeys
mircea_popescu: nope. it'll do exactly the same thing as mtgox lieing about "hacks"
mircea_popescu: well a 51% attack wouldn't generate btc.
mircea_popescu: n btc sucked into the aether
mircea_popescu: right, what io'm sauying is, this is a working prototype
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: through 2fa ?
mircea_popescu: lik that ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=203837.20
mircea_popescu: it's horible for gox, and esopecxially so for gox investors. so ?
mircea_popescu: i still need to see someone argue convincingly that goxlag is bad for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: well if it's a stochastic process, prolly.
mircea_popescu: im not sure i follow that bullet analogy
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, they don't trust themselves enough to believe their eyes. if respected people don't say there's a problem, there's no problem.
mircea_popescu: zero impact, for that matter. the lemmings aren't in this channel. they will never know today happened
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: much like cornering markets appears possible to do in static representations of reality.
mircea_popescu: it apperars possible to do, but only in static representations of reality
mircea_popescu: it's not possible to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reasoning is that basically bitcoin is a sort of morphism on the fiat world, and i am pretty convinced by now that the 51% attack is the local equivalent of the market cornering problem.
mircea_popescu: i think actual 51% past this point is an impossibility
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the world is made of probabilities not certainties.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pretty much everyone is having trouble with the 8.2 duality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform probably.
mircea_popescu: funk. it occurs.
mircea_popescu: i mean it looked fucking weird as all hell for a coupla hours there, but...
mircea_popescu: the sigrule kinda had to be tightened.
mircea_popescu: im not sure they did anything wrong.
mircea_popescu: on top of some internal stuff
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah there was a 1hr+ pause just as the new bitcoind changed signature rules making it look like a multifork
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm putting it off to string of extremely unlikely coincidences.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves read up the history, we've had some excitement.
mircea_popescu: http://www.greendiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gribble_Otoeh_11446.jpg
mircea_popescu: lolk
mircea_popescu: benkay which one is that ?
mircea_popescu: how do you figure ?
mircea_popescu: and it came in within 30 seconds of 236073 ?
mircea_popescu: so slush just mined an empty block ?
mircea_popescu: ;;blocks