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ascii_field: mats: it isn't even
that 'don't use
the work of dr. x., it will kill you'
mats: USG is a fount of grants for certain fields, computer security is one of
those blessed. consideration of all USG research as poisoned fruit is your prerogative, but for me, extraordinary and specific claims require extraordinarily specific evidence. like someone diddling an IR parser.
BingoBoingo: Actual security research
takes
the form "X barrier can resist breach by
thermal lance at Y intensity for Z minutes"
ascii_field: mats: we are also bedeviled by pseudoscientific academitards who push
them as 'security research'
ascii_field: mats: i don't know where you are posting from, but on my planet we recently saw astonishingly brazen clandestine
techno-diddlatrons blown wide open.
ascii_field: it is certainly both possible and useful in narrow cases. see
the ada
threads
mats: yes, and if you reject a inputs outside of a defined set of formal-izable grammars,
the more constrained
the model and subsequently greater approachability
towards program verification
ascii_field: program verification is 1) provably unsolvable in
the general case 2)
to
the extent it adds complexity and overall logical mass and subtracts from fit-in-head-ability, it is ~an evil~
mats: anyway,
the langsec idea goes, input validation has a striking similarity
to program verification, precluding inputs from driving unexpected state and computation
☟︎ ascii_field: (the actual result of
translating from more-expressive language
to a less-)
ascii_field: no but
the basic idea of
turning a high-level message into incomprehensible ground beef
mats: well, as you like
to remind so often, x86 ain't everything
there is.
ascii_field: the yarn had some imaginative and perhaps even good ideas,
this was not one of
these
ascii_field: the funny part is
that
this is actually how you ~guarantee~ ease of pwnage
☟︎ mats: that is:
translation
to an intermediate language with low expressive power,
then back
to whatever's parsed by original recipient,as a means of avoiding pwnage by a powerful adversary
mats: acquaintance noted
that vinge had an idea
that predates 'the cult of langsec'
mats: at
the suggestion of an acquaintance, am re-reading 'A Fire Upon
the Deep'
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: aka 'look what we spent bezzle
talking about'
ascii_field recalls reading
this, and
thinking
that it does not rise
to a 'solution'
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 15:14:51; pete_dushenski: mats: i remember one of
the ignoble winners from a few years back having researched 'why do computer cables become
tangled'
assbot: Logged on 16-09-2015 15:04:52; asciilifeform: 'Donate
to help refugees and migrants in urgent need. We'll match your donation.' << google.
punkman: "Crypto keys leak, loss and
theft happens, but disclosure of passphrase like Assange's
to journo
to book for State cables a classic PR ploy."
pete_dushenski: actually seems more valuable
than 'social sciences' in hindsight
pete_dushenski: mats: i remember one of
the ignoble winners from a few years back having researched 'why do computer cables become
tangled'
☟︎ assbot: Salt Programming Language Project | Project and design blog for
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pete_dushenski: or only applies
to 'investment' and not funds or software
Pierre_Rochard: now enjoying a sabbatical, learning C++ so I can finally ~understand
the bitcoin blackbox
Pierre_Rochard: manager insisted copy/pasting all day > programming for a few hours. So
that didn’t last long
pete_dushenski: “These analyses reveal a consistent pattern:
Treasury auction yields were artificially high (and prices correspondingly low),” according
to
the complaint. “Defendants
then
turned around and sold
the
Treasuries at higher prices (and correspondingly lower yields) in
the secondary markets, reaping substantial profits.”
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for belisk with note: quick btc
trade
jurov: !rate belisk 1 quick btc
trade
funkenstein_: anyway, nice piece you wrote from
the
trenches. someone had
to do it.
shinohai: Everyone
that has ever used a cloned shitcoin is an "economist" now
pete_dushenski: watch, i'll have a half-dozen spawn just
to block out
this idiot noise from 'economists'
pete_dushenski: i must not have enough
to do in a day
to find myself stooping
to such levels
pete_dushenski: the sensitive spot is
that i'm guilty of
trying
to make sense of his insanity
shinohai: retweeted danielpbarron 's
tweet for ya pete_dushenski funny writeup :D
funkenstein_: pete_dushenski, how did
this guy piss you off so much? :D
funkenstein_: I'm also
trying
to help straighten out which lines of reasoning can be fruitful and which are dead ends
pete_dushenski: for cereal, why do i do
this
to myself ? why read
this garbage ?
pete_dushenski: "Noah Smith @Noahpinion 21h21 hours ago : 8/Japan is not
traditionally a fascist country - or even a very centralized one. But collective memory doesn't go much past 1930." << my eyes are not bleeding.
thx
twitter.
thx 'economists'.
funkenstein_: Yeah, well I relate
to previous convos, sorry about
that. How else can I improve it?
☟︎ punkman: funkenstein_: yes I'm
talking about how you are making
this point
punkman: funkenstein_: "can't defend himself,
therefore has no value" "obese because can or something like
that" <<
this is not a good way
to argue
pete_dushenski: "Noah Smith @Noahpinion 21h21 hours ago : 9/The expansionist imperial period of 1930-45 was Japan's greatest heyday of power and prestige. It was also a period of great dynamism." << because
the history of
the world started in 1900 because
that's all
they
taught us in social studies class in high school !
funkenstein_: what distro is
that? i've never seen
that screen
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 07:05:20; BingoBoingo:
Three years old and
type 2 diabetes, most people with congential
type 1 diabetes don't know it at
that age
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 04:44:54; mircea_popescu: obviously
the white guys killed
the red guys.
the red guys sucked.
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 01:56:41; mircea_popescu: fucking master race check
that out.
pete_dushenski: Foreigners and citizens of Ukraine, who want
to visit Lviv should know
that
the officials of militia,
the customs service and other law-enforcement bodies not always follow
the law. " << sounds like usistan
pete_dushenski: "ust being acquainted with
the laws and following
them is sometimes insufficiently." << random ukr 'legal services' co. has it right.
pete_dushenski: 'justitia omnibus' being
the motto of
the district of columbia !
assbot: Chinese iOS devs download Xcode from 3rd-party, spyware was added in compile
time for many popular Chinese iOS apps (raw report Chinese) : netsec ... (
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☟︎ assbot: Executive Order -- Using Behavioral Science Insights
to Better Serve
the American People | whitehouse.gov ... (
http://bit.ly/1LCkSCc )
mats: i don't get why people enjoy
the online card game 'Hearthstone'
☟︎ punkman: a commodity, security, currency, whatever each USG entity needs
to call it in order
to pretend
they have authority over it
HeySteve: there is such a notion, not shared by
the state
punkman: ""In Europe and
the U.S.,
there's a notion
that
the state should be constrained,
that it's not right
to intervene in people's lives, unless for justified reasons. In China,
the state has no qualms about
that."
assbot: China Is Building
The Mother Of All Reputation Systems
To Monitor Citizen Behavior | Co.Exist | ideas + impact ... (
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assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 02:51:50; BingoBoingo: Oh, no
there are fun opportunities
that pop up on dating sites like
the recently out of a long
term relationship and cute girls with borderline personality disorder.
THe holy grail
to hunt for is
the overlap
HeySteve: whereas
that blonde's boobs are like 1/2 of mount rushmore