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mircea_popescu: o wait. they also think wrinkly old usgfag qualifies huh.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they could! IF THEY WERE SUCKING COCK.
assbot: Is this a dream? : BitShares ... ( http://bit.ly/1KXOzmC )
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitShares/comments/3js068/is_this_a_dream/ << o brother, the traders.
pete_dushenski: my guess is bois thought that gender equality meant that they could be enthusiastic too
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 17:51:38; mircea_popescu: because enthusiasm beats anything else nine times out of seven.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:54:39; mircea_popescu: who the fuck keeps telling people enthusiasm matters. shut the fuck up and sit down, you're not helping. in fact, you're most of the problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway, berkshire's 297/811760 = 0.000365872, better example in that vein
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:50:33; mircea_popescu: i also can't believe the butthurt "augur" people that kept derping on reddit about how mean bitbet is actually are built atop this shit and somehow still expect anyone to take them seriously.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279569 << was augur fussing about bitbet ? i musta missed this and just figured they'd pretend like bb/mpex were never invented ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's too cooked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to sum up : mkt cap / mkt volume factors. bitcoin 0.004171805 ; ripple 0.002536088 ; ltc 0.006680363 ; 0.006944208 ; "bitshares" 0.031265642 ; general motors, 0.01136538
mircea_popescu: why would that be the case, the less liquid a market is the more hope driven it is.
mircea_popescu: dividing the mkt cap by the mkt volume roughly yields the "empty hopes" factor. ☟︎
asciilifeform: in the time period under consideration
mircea_popescu: so bitcoin is pushing it with its 0.005. but this 0.001 bs...
asciilifeform: it is possible that, e.g., 'market cap' for rembrandt canvases is $3B but this year's trading volume is $0
asciilifeform: but also, unless i catastrophically misunderstand, 'market cap' is a pseudoscientific measure to begin with.
asciilifeform: there is this.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
mircea_popescu: leaving aside "what the fuck is bitshares" etc.
mircea_popescu: in what sense does this make sense ? you don't even need to have finance experience to notice this nonsense.
mircea_popescu: someone fucking explain to me what is the MEANING of "quarter billion mkt cap" over half a million trade volume.
mircea_popescu: so since i'm now looking at the table of "crypto currencies", as if that's a thing now (hey, why not you know, alternate centers of gravity - why not!!1), here's a table :
mircea_popescu: so far it's more like a "pack of wild dogs invaded your living room ? quick, drop some squaky toys on the floor!11"
mircea_popescu: i doubt anyone thinks this far ahead.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also suspect that one of the drivers of usg interest in demented pseudo-bitcoin contraptions ('permissioned blockchain technology!') is that these folks dream of a hybrid bulldog-rhinoceros, 'best of both', where usg can electronically steal everything you have, but without any bureaucratic snags - it will look precisely like a voluntary donation, from a mathematical standpoint
mircea_popescu: as the us is not printing new bills, the incentive is not present.
mircea_popescu: the only incentive to do that is the loss of face over having to print wider bills to accomodate the increase in digits.
asciilifeform: ah the 'will' is per 'shave two zeros'
mircea_popescu: so then what "will".
mircea_popescu: twenty years ago you COULD NOT buy a house in romania other than for cash. no matter what.
mircea_popescu: nobody that you know paid in cash for a house or even a car. think about that. what cash ?
asciilifeform: back to u.s. cash, i suspect that it remains a thing at least partly due to ease of extrajudicial confiscation
asciilifeform: as the ruble, under hruschev
mircea_popescu: "no inflation for a century" ==> "time to cut two zeros off the currency"
mircea_popescu: stuff with two digits should be reminted as coins.
asciilifeform: popular explanations range from 'nah they can't ban it, with what will we pay the mexican strawberry pickers' to 'it will come any day now'
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:16:03; assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 11:24:12; punkman: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7967908e-5ded-11e5-9846-de406ccb37f2.html "The assumption is that if a central bank introduced negative interest rates — a radical move that would effectively amount to a charge on holding money — people would convert deposits into cash. But abolishing cash would remove that option. "
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279498 << i never quite understood why this has not happened yet in usa ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (i do this sort of thing ALLLLL the time.)
mircea_popescu: she can pretend she's wymyn in tech, interested in ethereum for glory.
asciilifeform: one of these days i'ma walk over to their sweatshop & count'em
mircea_popescu: yes, but the stable gets $20 a head.
asciilifeform: it is an appetizer. pays for two profs and a stable of arsewipes
mircea_popescu: 2mn is not enough to take a piss.
asciilifeform: and that's merely the first parcel.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the soup at md was poured by nsf (a good $2M worth iirc, straight from the crown)
mircea_popescu: mostly because warm soup at maryland, but that's limited.
shinohai: meanwhile, thank you asciilifeform for giving us a bitcoind that isn't a horribly bloated p.o.s.
mircea_popescu: there's very faint traces of usg in all of this.
asciilifeform: the other thing is, i was briefly astonished at how broken the thing is, but then remembered an old mircea_popescu lemma which leads to 'it must necessarily be broken' - i haven't the link handy, but this was an article where 'usg dare not safely use a working bitcoin or even similar item, because it will begin to warp around it'
mircea_popescu: 't been watching the show back in 2012ish)
mircea_popescu: (which is pure necrodearia style insanity-on-a-stick, for the people who haven
mircea_popescu: and within not so long, the only people left standing will have a very strong "opentransactions" flavour to it
asciilifeform: these are (hard as it may be to believe) separate ministries
asciilifeform: nah dogecoin is the u.s. dept. of reddit's version.
asciilifeform: as in, the thing usg universities, 'ngo' complex, etc. finance.
mircea_popescu: but that'd be dogecoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it suddenly makes sense when you realize that they are not competing with bitcoin, but with 'bitcoin'
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:46:16; mircea_popescu: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3512/cant-compile-a-contract << meanwhile the "contract compiler" segfaults. and stuff. srsly, i need a "contract compiler" written in fucking cpp to spit out what's obviously parsed output ?
mircea_popescu: im still puzzled as to why all the eth derps imagine they're competing with bitcoin, quoting all sorts of bitcoin news etc, when it's quite clear they're trying to eat the ever shrinking ripple pie.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:41:47; mircea_popescu: it looks exactly like someone gutted lisp and replaced it with "easier to use" javascript.json
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279559 << i don't see any traces of lisp in this atrocity ☝︎
shinohai: In that vein, TradeFortress is sure to give me back the coin I lost in coinlenders too.
shinohai: LOL at that mc now.
mircea_popescu: obviously. i'm sure there's somewhere some people secretly waiting for neobee "brick and mortar stores" to come out of hiding.
shinohai: I decided not to bet on that one, I mean there are people that *still* believe in paycon despite Garza being what he was.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck keeps telling people enthusiasm matters. shut the fuck up and sit down, you're not helping. in fact, you're most of the problem. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Taylor Gerring @TaylorGerring · Sep 17 Taylor Gerring retweeted Vitalik Buterin The benefit of #Ethereum being defined by a spec, not an implementation "
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. that was entertaining. thanks whoever threw away 10k on bitbet, for the morning lulz.
assbot: Mist preview discussion thread - Ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1ioUW5v )
mircea_popescu: i also can't believe the butthurt "augur" people that kept derping on reddit about how mean bitbet is actually are built atop this shit and somehow still expect anyone to take them seriously. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai i'd be actually surprised if anyone managed to use this thing as intended to date.
mircea_popescu: i simply had no fucking idea, i imagined they'd go ineptly hit on girls or something. eat many cakes.
mircea_popescu: mindboggling what the population of excel-educated project managers in obscure office space will do with their time if you let them loose.
mircea_popescu: so they're not even at discussing jets and immutability yet. so far we're doing "branding imperatives" and "How to call Serpent function from JAVA SCRIPT (including encoding of function arguments)"
shinohai: I'm still rofl from the guy who sent all his coin to a contract the other day and now can't recover it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, it seems like this thing aims to be ~ urbit. made by people of the same exact ilk ("got some usg payola") but who understand EVEN LESS of computing.
mircea_popescu: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3512/cant-compile-a-contract << meanwhile the "contract compiler" segfaults. and stuff. srsly, i need a "contract compiler" written in fucking cpp to spit out what's obviously parsed output ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it looks exactly like someone gutted lisp and replaced it with "easier to use" javascript.json ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eth.sendTransaction({from:eth.accounts[1], to:eth.accounts[2], value:eth.getBalance(eth.accounts[0])-eth.gasPrice*21000, gas:21000})
mircea_popescu: all i wanna know is what the fuck broken parenscript they use.
assbot: Is there a way to send all Ether from one address to another? - Ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1ioUtQX )
mircea_popescu: http://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3143/is-there-a-way-to-send-all-ether-from-one-address-to-another << considering this is the most read/commented item on the thing's forum, and also the only one to get any comments / more than 5 views, and also the principal item in "protocol discussion" (a heading made to differentiate from NON TECHNICAL discussions)
shinohai: When you create your own money, you also get to make up a job title! How cool is dat?
mircea_popescu: shinohai nah, it's ok, ubuntu was there first.
mircea_popescu: what the everloving treefortfuck!
assbot: Microsoft has developed its own Linux. Repeat. Microsoft has developed its own Linux • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1ioUfJz )
shinohai: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/ <<< The only linux guaranteed to get you pwnd.
mircea_popescu: they actually sit around and pretend like this shit's a thing. i have so much trouble processing this...
mircea_popescu: a) all the wrong fucking choices ; b) they actually believe this shit has some sort of meaning. god help me, "the eth dev brand" ? how the fuck is it a brand.
mircea_popescu: We will de-emphasize the “ETH DEV” brand (with the exception of “DEVcon”) and focus attention on “Ethereum” going forward"
mircea_popescu: "We will continue our general direction of increasing permissiveness that we began with our recent changes to branding guidelines, and emphasis on maintaining norms of common sense and civility over strict rules. We are not following in the footsteps of /r/bitcoin‘s theymos. Discussion of EthereumXT (I suppose the closest equivalent we have is Expanse, with its 10x higher gas limit) is NOT banned.
mircea_popescu: We will make an effort to de-emphasize Skype, and emphasize Gitter as a means of real-time communication for developers. Gitter has the advantages that (i) it’s easier to quickly jump in and participate,"
mircea_popescu: As some initial steps, we are going to do the following:
mircea_popescu: ion and take another look at how the Ethereum foundation interacts with the community.
mircea_popescu: "The foundation is currently in the phase of restructuring its communications activities. Several members of our current communications team in London are soon leaving or reducing their involvement in the Foundation in order to pursue for-profit ventures on top of the Ethereum ecosystem; we wish them the best of luck. And so, we have both the necessity and a unique opportunity to “reboot” that side of the organizat
mircea_popescu: like getting malnourished african children to eat beef jerky.
mircea_popescu: really this thing should be preserved for future derps.