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assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 23:00:00; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279708 <<< was it not something like protoshares then bit X and proto X and about 5 other incarnations prior to it being bitshares?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279882 << 'protoshares' rings a bell, now that you mention it. ☝︎
assbot: The Truth Behind AbbyBitcoin - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtsgPp ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: what do we need the dead code for ???
asciilifeform: and what the fuck do people smoke that makes them release a compiler without tree shaking?
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:55:01; phf: presumably it's either glibc and small binaries or no glibc and the entire stdlib attached to the thing. ocaml at least doesn't do any sort of "tree shaking"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279879 << actually as far as i can tell it is ~worse~. the 'small binaries' are bytecode-compiled that runs SLOW AS FUCK ~and~ REQUIRED RUNTIME INSTALLED ☝︎
cazalla: http://www.jewocity.com/blog/13-female-footballers-removed-from-federation-internationale-de-football-association-16-following-ncaa-warning/71799 "Athletes are paid in ‘an education, ‘ the only currency more hard to spend than bitcoin”, Oliver joked"
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:57:48; phf: have you already dropped ocaml from your evaluation based on that article you posted couple of days ago?
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 20:52:53; deedbot-: [Trilema] You know what gets no airplay ? Unflattering truth. - http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279827 <<< this was a great sunday morning read ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 15:58:44; pete_dushenski: i remember way back when bitshares was a new thing, all the local kidz (some of whom were twice my age) jumping aboard and mining and trying to swindle me into it
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279708 <<< was it not something like protoshares then bit X and proto X and about 5 other incarnations prior to it being bitshares? ☝︎☟︎
phf: have you already dropped ocaml from your evaluation based on that article you posted couple of days ago? ☟︎
phf: presumably it's either glibc and small binaries or no glibc and the entire stdlib attached to the thing. ocaml at least doesn't do any sort of "tree shaking" ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279839 << i just came out of a shop near dc, it sold that same mimolette (as far as naked eye could tell) ☝︎
phf: i think it's actually called region-based memory management
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:32:40; phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees.
asciilifeform: (standalone ones. i will not use the threaded code ones for anything)
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:33:17; phf: never the less later that was reason why i looked at ocaml, with some flags and afair abandonment of all stdlib packages, you can get it to produce binaries in the low 100kb range. entirely useless.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279859 << ever got mlton or smlnj, or mosml, to build glibc-less binaries ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:40:54; phf: if b-a was a 1912 revolutionary clique, pete would be a hotheaded guy with a nagant, shooting up chandelier to announce our arrival. "comrade mats was questioning comrade lenin's communique, so i gave him nagant to the gut."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279842 << lulzy. for comparison, i picked up a (turned out, virginal (!!!)) ti-92plus for 25 usd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279839 << i thought betel was banned in usa? or was that khat ? ☝︎☟︎
phf: if b-a was a 1912 revolutionary clique, pete would be a hotheaded guy with a nagant, shooting up chandelier to announce our arrival. "comrade mats was questioning comrade lenin's communique, so i gave him nagant to the gut." ☟︎
shinohai: thx will add that, need to write a simple script that can show which are on/off etc
phf: never the less later that was reason why i looked at ocaml, with some flags and afair abandonment of all stdlib packages, you can get it to produce binaries in the low 100kb range. entirely useless. ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned << i don't think i was too picky at the time, i.e. cmucl dumps 20mb images, and my main concern was audio latency anyway. oh i also used mlkit for that reason, it uses a combination of frame based memory management and gc, so you can have realtime guarantees. ☟︎
shinohai: I don't necessarily have to make them public, just wanted to put them somewhere so I could connect if need be.
shinohai: I got ascii's I think and danielpbarron 's
shinohai: To all reading the b-a logs: I wish to compile a list of realbitcoin nodes so if you have one I can list feel free to ping.
mircea_popescu: shit, i want two.
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/7EgfHNf.jpg <<<dem shoulders though :/
shinohai: b-a has the brightest minds in bitcoin finance, yet I never hear anyone here hawking the latest hardware.
phf: i wouldn't have posted otherwise, but for the recent calculator discussions. all the talk about "limited edition retro appeal" in stark contrast to b-a considerations
shinohai: Tablets are shit too, imho phf
assbot: Searching for the "grey market" foods of New York City — Hopes&Fears — flow "Food" ... ( http://bit.ly/1YpbhIn )
shinohai: It's easy to see in comparison why most new ventures fail nowadays.
shinohai: btw excellent trilema post mircea_popescu. I don't have the greatest understanding of such things but that certainly makes sense.
mircea_popescu: prolly tring to do rijndael something or the other
shinohai: tl;dr I don't know this shit but it is critical to get people to adopt my scamcoin. SO help plox, thx bye.
assbot: need someone familiar with finite field arithmetic to write whitepaper ... ( http://bit.ly/1FmZEv1 )
deedbot-: [Trilema] You know what gets no airplay ? Unflattering truth. - http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/ ☟︎
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279578 <<< nah, that's the first paycoin, this is garza's paycoin (was also first! ignore the 2 in the url) http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/ still, may as well be $1000 ☝︎
ag3nt_zer0: shinohai: just watching that indoctrinate U movie haha
assbot: Another Government Shutdown Looms At The End Of The Month : The Two-Way : NPR ... ( http://bit.ly/1OmbmJl )
ag3nt_zer0: same topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph5LdzBE1V4 if anyones interested I like watching this kid fight
ag3nt_zer0: watching this great horror film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHyvRHrYYBA
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema article i been working for the past coupla hours now stands at 7.5k words
asciilifeform barely watches film at all these days, but saw all of 'silicon..', at the instigation of phriendz, and l0lled
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 17:06:23; mircea_popescu: "In the deal, Hooli would invest $200 million for equity while in return the two companies would enter into a business development agreement on the side in which Pied Piper guarantees to spend that money in a massive consumer campaign on Hooli’s ad platform."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279776 << this is about a tv series, 'silicon valley', which is a merciless parody of the whole idiot culture and actually worth seeing ☝︎
asciilifeform opens crate, says to pet, 'wanna learn some galois theory?' -- pet: 'not unless it will teach me how to die with honour in duel !'
ben_vulpes doesn't understand anything about how the world works
pete_dushenski off for a haircut and some exercise (fear not, the jewfro will survive)
mircea_popescu: the only problem with it is that it's a profession, and you don't have a clue how it works.
ben_vulpes: this is relevant to a question i've been mulling of late. say a new client shows up at my door, and i like their shit so much i want to buy a chunk of it. how would i navigate both owning a chunk of the new company and also my consulting company that would be building large swathes of the product? seems a bit ethically and incentive-alignmently fraught.
mircea_popescu: "In the deal, Hooli would invest $200 million for equity while in return the two companies would enter into a business development agreement on the side in which Pied Piper guarantees to spend that money in a massive consumer campaign on Hooli’s ad platform." ☟︎
ben_vulpes pours out a drink for the memory of trinque in town
mircea_popescu: roizen is actually one of those actual women in, well, not tech, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: which may or may not be related to the toilet.
mircea_popescu: clearly they're shopping for many economists the same place gavin did
pete_dushenski: so 100 of them is 'many'
pete_dushenski: how many 'economists' exist ? tens of thousands ?
pete_dushenski: it's the most meaningless source in the universe for a journalist to cite
pete_dushenski: 'many economist believe that inflation doesn't erode your savings'
mircea_popescu: "Many economists believe that balance sheet losses are irrelevant for a central bank, so they should play no role in policy."
assbot: Loper OS » Where Lisp Fails: at Turning People into Fungible Cogs. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDt8Gj )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell Pierre_Rochard http://www.loper-os.org/?p=69 << "Employers much prefer that workers be fungible, rather than maximally productive."
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ivananucar.jpg << the competition for 'best troll name' intensifies. this, from a local car dealer.
pete_dushenski: "General Motors admitted wrongdoing and will pay a $900-million penalty, but will avoid federal prosecution for its mishandling of an ignition-switch defect in some of its older cars." << even 'chosen ones' have to pay their tithes/baksheesh.
pete_dushenski: japs were thinking 'not my bezzlars, don't care where they come from or where they're going, just that they're active rather than passive'
mircea_popescu: it does maybe 20mn profit over half bn revenue. which half bn revenue dropped 80% over the decade and will drop 90% over the next decade.
mircea_popescu: the only question being wtf were the japs thinking.
mircea_popescu: "CoinTelegraph Media Group is the largest international cryptocurrency-related marketing and advertising agency in the world. Our Ad opportunities provide our clients with wide-reaching penetration into the cryptocurrency-oriented community."
assbot: If Primecoin becomes international transferring instrument, the price versus USD will potentially hit 1,000! : primecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Waptmp )
mircea_popescu: hahahaha australia, that shithole where canaries are illegal ? lmao.
mircea_popescu: old chan thing that meanwhilke died.
pete_dushenski: there are probably a raft of 'polimedia' links on loper that do the same.
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KXQffY )
pete_dushenski: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135778037437.png << link from http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108 goes straight to mpex.ws
mircea_popescu: awww, twinklefenton's gonna be butt-hurt ? again
mircea_popescu: "Former heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson has joined forces with a cryptocurrency firm to bring bitcoin ATMs to Las Vegas. The deal with Conexus and Bitcoin Direct is believed to be the first celebrity partnership in the bitcoin industry."
mircea_popescu: i thought azn ppl were supposed to be throwing the curve.
mircea_popescu: the company ? which the guy called "a major breakthrough in finance" ?
pete_dushenski: "President Barack Obama nominated Eric Fanning to become the next secretary of the Army, the White House said, paving the way for the first openly gay leader of a military service branch in U.S. history."
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 14:26:49; punkman: "Ethercoin is a proof-of-stake blockchain with a fixed supply of coins provably backed by REAL ethers purchased from the Ethereum sale"
pete_dushenski: "Please Note: We are in no way affiliated with the Official Ethereum project."
pete_dushenski: what's the relation between eth and etc ?
mircea_popescu: etc is an actual eth thing.
pete_dushenski: tip o' the cap to whoever drafted it up
mircea_popescu: dude that eth bet's a killer lol
pete_dushenski: it was 2013's Great New Thing
pete_dushenski: i remember way back when bitshares was a new thing, all the local kidz (some of whom were twice my age) jumping aboard and mining and trying to swindle me into it ☟︎
mircea_popescu: If you tumbled over the term interest, you probably read an outdated posted. Sorry to tell you but there is no interest on your bitUSD ... for legal reasons ... thus the community decided to call it a yield :-). That yield is payed out every time you transfer bitUSD (that are older than 24h). This effectively is an interest, but has an other name. Check out the our info graphic about is:"
mircea_popescu: "I read about interest on bitAssets. Tell me more!
mircea_popescu: "BTS's consensus algorithm is DPOS, which is roughly that stakeholders vote on a relatively small set of block validators (~100). All stakeholders care about is "sufficient" decentralization - block validators are quick to replace. These validators can be high-performance servers."
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder that shit site's still around.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "bitshares" turns out to be yet another bitbet-killer
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