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mircea_popescu: btw re earlier feather discussion : http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ probably ties in.
mircea_popescu: i expect if ever resolved it'll be like the fermat thing.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how you'd prove that. at all.
asciilifeform: ah then yes!
mircea_popescu: ie, that it's a conjecture.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that one is not the same as other is what happens to be true.
asciilifeform: now if only he'd listened! then he could starve in this ditch with me, instead of bathing in benjies and cocaine in his usg-filled wealthtub
asciilifeform: http://moronlab.blogspot.com/2010/01/urbit-functional-programming-from.html?showComment=1263570771214#c6454142774827414532 << i did tell him.
mircea_popescu: well in my defense i wasn't reading it then.
asciilifeform: everything that came after that was nonsense.
mircea_popescu: but it's what i had formed in my head in that week or however long the interest lasted.
mircea_popescu: course meanwhile that fizzled.
assbot: So this Urbit thing... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LJxM1j )
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:40:15; ascii_field: not far from the facts though.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281152 << ianae but my reading at the original time (back when i even sponsored development in the then-nascent alt paradigm, see http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/#selection-35.0-37.0 ) was that they actually had pretty much the same idea as alf, which is to say the old sherlockism : "once you've eliminated all stupid, what you're left weith, however improbable ☝︎
asciilifeform: but afaik no such proof presently is known to exist.
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 02:08:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281139 << this happens to be true.
asciilifeform: living in the real world, with its incredibly annoying habit of wrecking _every_ constructed expectation sooner or later.'
assbot: Re: Israel Thomas and Marcus G. Daniels and respect for people - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1MFLvMg )
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:56:31; mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281876 >> http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185426046243327@naggum.net.html >> 'There is much less intellectual dishonesty among people who aren't smart enough to make up a sufficiently large part of the world that they can live in it, and the bigger part of the world you can create inside your own head, the more important it is that you don't move into your own mind, but keep ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:58:55; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/117CE64 << is that how it's supposed to look ?
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:16:12; ascii_field: phun phakt: it is not a proven fact that the difficulty of the rsa problem as such is equivalent to that of factoring.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281139 << this happens to be true. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:59:46; ascii_field: because usg has the means to feed full-time programmers, and we do not.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281114 << except i wouldn't hire them if they paid me. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:59:29; ascii_field: i just think it is grimly hilarious how everything we've spoken of here ~will~ be implemented in bastardized usg versions
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281113 << unavoidable. this is what being a thought leader entails : that EVERYONE ELSE is stuck trying to make your planes out of mud and sticks. for that is what they have and this is what they want. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: these are the sort of schmucks that can't even afford pants to keep their money in.
mircea_popescu: and all the fuckwards derping about bitcoin and africa are more than welcome to explain who in this world exactly needs 2 dollar-fortified transactions to pay for his fucking plastic pocket protector or whatever the shit reddit buys from that one fat chick at the talent fair.
mircea_popescu: so their math is correct, it does cost MULTIPLE DOLLARS to properly settle a transaction, via the TRUSTLESS blockchain mechanism.
mircea_popescu: also, it's not exactly clear what the bitcoin per-transaction COSTS are, but it is quite obvious that a) mining is designed to be a ~0% margin activity and has been exactly that without exception through the history and b) the PRICE paid for a block which is usually 1-2k transactions is usually 25ish BTC, which is for simplicity 5k dollars.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i appreciate that they're SO FUCKING PETRIFIED of bitcoin can't even talk of it other than under the SA guise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/117CE64 << is that how it's supposed to look ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: between stolfi and lew rockwell, a whole fucking massed galaxy of these imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: what "go suck the cock of the people who made the thing that surprised you for a while, because obviously they know and obviously you don't". nonono, HE IS GOING TO HAVE IDEAS. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: becauyse yeah, totally, no "smart in his own mind" schmuck to date has managed to avoid this trap.
assbot: Stage n: Bitcoin exists. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MFKNie )
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:57:27; ascii_field: 'Broadly, the design difference between Urbit and a blockchain network is that blockchains are "trust superconductors" - they eliminate any dependency on social, political or economic trust. Urbit is a "trust conductor" - engineered to minimize, but not eliminate, dependencies on trust.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281109 << "broadly the difference is that curtis originally didn't understand what this all is, then got called on it by http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ then had someone who can actually think explain what's going on to him, then the next day came up with.... wait for it... HIS OWN IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE A BETTER BITCOIN. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:54:58; ascii_field: 'galaxy, star, planet, moon, comet' << glorious. they retired the naval org chart (before that, prior to mr mold selling out to usg, it was feudal titles of nobility - as in my former 'dukedom')
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281105 << problem with the bezzletron is that words become dirty through their usage. which is why colored coins gotta become bitshares gotta become ripple gotta become ethereum and on and on. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and da's are not really selected for manhood, not in the us, not these days.
mircea_popescu: some are here to lead and some others are here to follow, it is a given like e is a given. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no schooling, no government job, no friends and no other arrangements can ever change this.
mircea_popescu: the point is that manhood is not substitutable resource. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the point is drastically more subtler than that.
asciilifeform: with couches, escritoir, tiffany lamps, etc.
asciilifeform: i see the point here, i think. the (private) 'crime and punishment museum' in d.c. - the one with the famous electric chairs - has an example of mafia don's cell
mircea_popescu: usg paid for the whores.
asciilifeform: why would a fella who can administer broken teeth to the d.a., end up in a jail at any point ?
mircea_popescu: in the shape of broken teeth.
mircea_popescu: because he might just as well run the jail like his own personal whorehouse.
asciilifeform: i expect that fella who 'won't accept' will get some form of... persuasion, in his jail cell, in the form of broken teeth
mircea_popescu: once one gets out of the paper bag of "hiring counsel", one discovers all sorts of little knobs on the papers.
asciilifeform: he knows that it is an atrocity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that is why it is an exercise of ~conscious~ stupidity. mr mold ~knows~ what he is doing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you said these people took math. at some point.
asciilifeform: and they will deputize 'magistrates' and other faux judge-lite animals
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:52:26; ascii_field: to recognize the standard ++dec.' << ahahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281100 << dude that's fucking stupid ☝︎
asciilifeform: and they are cheap.
asciilifeform: every trial is an exercise of usg power.
asciilifeform: actually it does not matter at all to usg if a trial is a 'new' one, or rerun of 'hung jury' trial.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:49:58; ascii_field: '%g is the application system, currently %gall (1300 lines) %gall is half process table and half systemd, sort of.' << satan preserve us.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281097 << if a hog fucks a goat in my presence, in the sense that i was in the same country at some point, this does not qualify the resulting hogbeast as "my bastard" ☝︎
trinque: what, they don't have enough to do in Baltimore/Ferguson/wherever ?
trinque: in our "markets" the fetish of wealth, and in our courts and police stations the fetish of power
asciilifeform: oh noez the judge might have to work on fridays !
asciilifeform: this simply leads to a new trial.
asciilifeform saw this from inside, personally hung it
asciilifeform: and if the judge catches a juror actively persuading others to nullify, he can try him for 'contempt'
asciilifeform: jury nullification is, contrary to popular belief, not really a thing in usa. not in the sense that it is impossible - it is certainly possible, on paper. but in practice verdict (in criminal cases) must be unanimous, and it never happens.
mircea_popescu: you want laws enforced, put some work into making them make sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was originally limited to, iirc, traffic offenses.
mircea_popescu: any matter with strict liability straight to jury nullification.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion of "Strict liability" even being allowed is lulzy.
asciilifeform: likely, somewhere in there is an antifuse that, e.g., switches the workfunction to use sha3, or the like.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I see that point; in this case I think it reflects the actual twisted beliefs of the population << in all cases. that's how witchhunts work, and why they exist.
asciilifeform: the '21' thing
asciilifeform: speaking of the other one
mircea_popescu: i handed this one out.
trinque: yeah, I've got no problem with it; they're the ones protesting too much
mircea_popescu: about as likely to change as the color of sunset.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> maybe the cops just enjoy their fap material young. << everybody does. prime fuckmeat = nude teen chained to the wall.
mircea_popescu: but we were not discussing THAT.
asciilifeform: i personally don't give a damn if they had been doing it to please odin.
mircea_popescu: that it happens to work well doesn't change what it is.
mircea_popescu: "the kid has the M disease, what do we do ? " "i dunnoi, cast him in the M pit, let them tell him how to live with it. they obviously know by now"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but in the willingness to pluck out the exceptional and hand'em over to apprentice under masters. << kinda like outcast behaviour.
trinque: oh I'm sure they trade the things just like has been said about the NSA
mircea_popescu: trinque heh, i imagine there's some pretty decent policeman teen porn stashes.
asciilifeform: and - ianal, but, afaik it is a 'strict liability' offence in usa. this means that considerations like 'i had no idea this was on my box' only count with respect to the decision to prosecute - that is, ~in the event the prosecutor deems it worthy of consideration~ - rather than on the matter of guilt or innocence.
trinque: I see that point; in this case I think it reflects the actual twisted beliefs of the population
asciilifeform: 'hackteam' leak revealed a spiffy, user-friendly bot module used by usg to remotely cp-ize winblowz users. it was mentioned in guess how many newspapers.
asciilifeform: all cp prosecutions are, without exception, exercises of 'lettre du cachet' powers. on account of the impossibility of proving otherwise, plus the lack of anyone giving half a rat's arse re: said proof.
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 15:21:43; asciilifeform: now, for the other prong of the question, 'omg121111!!1111 ch1ld pr0n!' prosecutions in usa are always, without exception about one thing: 'know that you can go to the camps for having certain bitstrings on your hdd. and that if we want to, we can put them there, aha.'
asciilifeform: ^ from mircea_popescu's piece, quoted for the logz.
asciilifeform: tions and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - what the code actually says and does. Particularly "criminal" - using a computer in the manner it itself allows to be used.'