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pete_dushenski: that
the pope follows jesus'
teachings
to
the letter would be like obama following jefferson's
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:13:59; pete_dushenski: socialism :
the political viewpoint
that holds as its highest virtue
the coercive redistribution of resources
phf: i
think
there was a conversation at some point how diff/patch doesn't create empty directories and you have
to resort
to .keepme hacks, it was suggested
that
the correct solution is
to patch makefile.unix instead, but i don't
think
that was done
shinohai: (-__\) #facepalm
that was it ...
shinohai: I'll
try manually adding it. I'm in
the habit of deleting object files when a build fails
wywialm: the most precise definition of
this is
the vaticanum I constitution "pastor aeternus", and
this is
to guard
the
tradition of
the Church
☟︎ pete_dushenski: wywialm: ok. i'll bite. what's
the pope ~actual~ mandate ?
wywialm: pete_dushenski, he may
try
to speak as
the voice of
the 'people', but it is clear
to me
that it is way outside of his mandate as a pope
shinohai: trilema, is
there any knowledge it doesn't contain
wywialm: and
this sentence, shinohai, is probably very close
to
truth
shinohai: I brought up
the subject due
to
the statement he made
that "I am not a socialist" yet in my limited knowledge of
the subject, he has a lot of socialist ideas.
wywialm: again, only
to my knowledge, he does not represent any 'people', however considered
pete_dushenski: wywialm: in any event,
that's a 'world's
tallest midget' competition.
the pope is still just a politician representing way
too many people and interests
to be effective
pete_dushenski: despite paul's opinion
to
the contrary,
there's always a
trilema reference somewhere
ascii_field: 'In January 2009, USP Lewisburg began a mission change converting
to a Special Management Unit (SMU) facility.
Therefore,
the information in
this handbook is for
the general population inmates only (Cadre Unit).' <<
this is worth explaining. SMU is a series of 'special prisons' where folks are held incommunicado. instituted under bush II
ascii_field: may live in comparative harmony without fear or
threats or intimidation.'
ascii_field: of his
time. It is important
that each inmate follow
the rules of
the institution in order
that all
ascii_field: s institution one in which each man has
the opportunity
to “make
the most”
wywialm: well,
the pope has vastly more power on His subjects
than queen of denmark, if
this is what you mean
pete_dushenski: he
thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In
this system, which
tends
to devour everything which stands in
the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like
the environment, is defenseless before
the interests of a deified market, which become
the only rule." << every socialist hashtag wrapped up in a single paragraph. no points for guessing who wrote.
pete_dushenski: y is
thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and
the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries
to realize
the potential of
their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying
their real purchasing power.
To all
this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving
tax evasion, which have
taken on worldwide dimensions.
T pete_dushenski: "56. While
the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so
too is
the gap separating
the majority from
the prosperity enjoyed by
those happy few.
This imbalance is
the result of ideologies which defend
the absolute autonomy of
the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently,
they reject
the right of states, charged with vigilance for
the common good,
to exercise any form of control. A new
tyrann
wywialm: ascii_field, incidentally,
the Vat-II does not mandate majority of His actions, beginning but not ending with
the Mass and ecumenic policy
ascii_field: 'Whem I'm released,
the only restriction I have is
travelling for
the first few months. Other
than
that, Im allowed
to use
the internet. Im debating wether
to buy
the blackphone when I get out or just root an android ' << win
pete_dushenski: i'll leave
that bit of homework
to others, wywialm perhaps
ascii_field: iirc in usa somewhere
there is a spare, schismatic pope who isn't
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell pope_francis are you
too much of a 'man of
the people' for latin now ?
ascii_field: l0l,
that pope is in
town
today, neon signs warning of it on
the 'beltway'
wywialm: note
that
there is no latin
text
wywialm: to my knowledge, it does not have a status of an official
teaching
wywialm: what must be said,
though,
that in his private utterances, Pope Francis leaves much space for uncharitable interpretation
wywialm: and
the virtue is
the preservation of
the moral order of society, of which private property is an essential part
wywialm: also,
the effect -
the redistribution - is not
the virtue, charity, i.e. voluntary act is
wywialm: the catholic
teaching on
the subject (afaik) is
that
there should be no redistribution, but
that
there are obligations
to
the poor
that should be met in a non-centralistic manner
pete_dushenski: socialism :
the political viewpoint
that holds as its highest virtue
the coercive redistribution of resources
☟︎ pete_dushenski: so expecting francis or any other clergyman of 'the people'
to expound
the virtues of capitalism or sanity is like expecting a potato
to grow legs and start running marathons
wywialm: as i stated earlier,
this depends on
the definition of socialism
pete_dushenski: wywialm:
the idea being
that xtians are
the original socialists, if not
the jews before
them.
wywialm: pete_dushenski,
to be fair, i'm not sure how
this relates
to Pope Francis official
teaching or private opinions
pete_dushenski: pope poverty-spec isn't exactly breaking
the mold here.
wywialm: i'm no expert on catholic
teaching, but under charitable interpretation, Pope Francis is not outside catholic guidelines on care of
the poor and principle of subsidiarity
wywialm: shinohai, depends on
the definition of socialism
pete_dushenski: s up my sleeve
to ensure
that I can overpower anyone
that comes
through
the
tunnel."
pete_dushenski: unpleasant as I possibly can
to anyone who dares
to crawl
through
the
tunnel. I will
try
to
the best of my ability
to make
them regret
their decision...I'll
try my very best
to sexually assault him or her.
The
tunnel is constructed in such a way
that it gets smaller
the closer you get
to
the project room.
The bigger you are,
the more difficult it is
to comfortably crawl out. And
trust me, I have a lot of secret
pete_dushenski: "Why rape? Because as an artistic gesture, it's one of
the most impactful I can
think of... It dawned on me
that if
the work [we local artists] created had never existed,
the world would be no different
than if it had. None of it mattered
to anyone outside of our small and insignificant circle of peers. I wanted something
that would have more impact...I want
to make it clear
that I plan
to make
the experience as
pete_dushenski: and vw's hindleg is stuck in a
trap from which is must now chew its way out
ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: can't really hold
the streetwalker responsible for
the condition of
the streets now can you?
pete_dushenski: lobbes: in essence,
the usg's continued insistence
that, in every regard and in every field,
the map is
the
territory, is used
to
trip up both citizens and corporations wherever and wherever it might be convenient
ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell asciilifeform
that'd
truly make it a little shop of horrors!
ben_vulpes: lobbes: usg
tentacle is
the catholic church's only future existence
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 04:55:31; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 <<
turns out
that i was off
the mark here.
to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy
testing is conducted while a vehicle is placed on a dynamometer—think of it as a
two big rollers or a
treadmill—rather
than driving on
the road.
The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in
the case of VW vehicles). But
the rear
tires
lobbes: yeah, didn't
they alter
their code
to 'switch' when it detected
testing or something similar?
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: vw is under investigation for 'studying
to
the
test' atm. i'm sure
they'll be slapped with a big ol' fine by usg and
then watch
their sales fall by 10-20%
lobbes: I'd argue
that 'music' is just fine, but it is
the 'popular music industry'
that suffers
today. But,
the masses have come
to expect (tm) as
they say
funkenstein_: the notion
that britney spears did damage
to music might be compared
to
the idea
that Garza did damage
to bitcoin
lobbes: you also gotta love how he feels qualified
to endorse
the 'climate change' scam. smells like a usg appendage
to me
shinohai: Thanks jurov. Seems
today he is with
the democratic socialists.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im
taking
the local devs out for a breakfast hackathon. bbl.
mircea_popescu: but basically... it never occured
to me
that in point of fact bitbet's minimum acts as a
tax. and a lot of other
things in here never occured
to me. i'm still reeling over
the whole pile.
mircea_popescu: might be why
the "2 btc minimum on sports bets"
thing introduced last year nigh on killed sports.
that may need
to be
taken off.
mircea_popescu: basically
this might be one of
those situations where regulation is a loser.
mircea_popescu: now it's just 0.01, which means we suck
the meaning out of a cent. if minimum becomes 0.1, we suck
the meaning out of
ten cents. which may be
too much,
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla
the problem i see is
this : forcing bets removes
their signalling capacity. if i increase
the minimum i just remove meaning from money.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu yeah should prolly bump
the initial bet
to .1 instead
mircea_popescu: like 1/x -4 is entirely a different
thing from 1/x +4.
mircea_popescu: right because
there's a fundamental difference between equations
that come out positive and equations
that come out negative.
jurov: asciilifeform: i meant
these cases where
the libraries spawn processes on
their own
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu:
this'll sound strange, but shorts are 'pessimistic' and even 'cynical' in
the eyes of
the large-foreheaded
mircea_popescu: yeah,
they're into
this for
the money, except
they only want
to make money by going long. shorts are bad mkay.
pete_dushenski: 'because gambling is uncouth and only done with vegas bookies using
their scammy lines'