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asciilifeform: iirc ratshack already was a zombie in 1990 or so. the wonder is how long the zombie walked, not that it finally crumbled
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, aha, the beginning.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, where I grew up local radioshack was a franchise op. Part Radioshack, part crafts stuff franchisee sold in his other store the next county over.
mircea_popescu: so they did what they do, "band together and preternd on a 1. 1 >0 even if 1 != the infinity it should be"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but even it was BORN -- it was born because the local tards did not have the intellectual capacity to support actual infrastructure, nevertheless wanted to pretend to participate in human world.
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu found 1 down south at some pt, but there is no resupply for'em, the co long ago folded , asciilifeform went and bought ~entire contents of 1 for a hundy or so )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> right ? and WHAT THE FUCK do they put IN THE PLACE, physical as well as financial, thus saved ? same thing women put in the place where "floor washing on hands and knees" and "bake cake" used to go, ie subhuman africanisms ? oh, but tyvm, this progress is so very fecal./ << What they put in the place are a bunch of storefront kiosks each selling a particular wireless carrier's products.
mircea_popescu: a much saner milieu than "here's our corporate brochure"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, radioshack was already symptom of death, federalized to "survive". in the sane world of the 90s these were so many independent shops, ran by period roger vers, tryna do radio advertisements and whatnot.
asciilifeform: for that matter, that same bolix, and the 1989 crapple it rides on, 100% orig parts ( save for http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2943 which i stuffed in preemptively )
asciilifeform: '90s irons were solid, in comparison even with that opteron. e.g. i still have a 486 that worx like the day it was new, not even recapped ever
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, used to be every town of 100k or more white people had a store with some of ALL of those in stock << And then Retards killed radioshack
mircea_popescu: n-th restatement of "not beating wives and children has created irrespirable world, a fie on you" etc thread, we'll skip.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know full well what 'they put in place'. single-chip disposable rubbishes that konsoomer is expected to buy and shuddup etc
mircea_popescu: right ? and WHAT THE FUCK do they put IN THE PLACE, physical as well as financial, thus saved ? same thing women put in the place where "floor washing on hands and knees" and "bake cake" used to go, ie subhuman africanisms ? oh, but tyvm, this progress is so very fecal./
mircea_popescu: "but mp, it's all for the better, think of all the space and inventory capial saved by the better jit methods of commercial distribution"
mircea_popescu: i mean, used to be every town of 100k or more white people had a store with some of ALL of those in stock
mircea_popescu: by which i don't mean "can't be got", especially "at my so and so magic provider who's essentially this 60yo who will soon die".
asciilifeform: tho since we're on subj, i'ma add that the bolix, for what its faults, was entirely repairable, the only 'magic' part that aint off-shelf is the cpu
mircea_popescu: make the whole damn thing the civilised way rather than sinking "half hours" into by-hand bs.
mircea_popescu: re out there doing systematic by-hand mobo-ing because "valuable resource ran extinct", might as well have baked... i dunno, a half-sane southbridge ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean, by the time we
asciilifeform: lol all the bolx thrds ?
mircea_popescu: hey, where's that logline where i say it's not yet clar to me symboix ever amounted to anyting worthwhile ?
asciilifeform: lol ffs why wouldja re-create the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't expect we'll ever be recreating these gnarly insanities. x86 mobos nothing to worship, even leaving aside the
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will add that 'peanut' can grow to 'pea-elephant' if -- and this time verily cometh -- there is not a replacement on hand.
asciilifeform: ftr recapping my 'tyan' took maybe half hr, counting the photographies.
asciilifeform: xray takes 1min or so; looking at the balls, maybe hr, i'ma pro bono. beyond that prolly not worth.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean... seriously ? ten thousand man-hours of work for a peanut ?
asciilifeform: even the satellite people only seem to give a shit up to 7 yrs or so, re iron life
asciilifeform: ~nobody seems to actually study this q.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you end up throwing it, feel free to send for xray ( if thing is >35cm on the long edge, may have to saw it ) , then can say 'solder ball this-here unballed' etc. valuable old irons aging data point, potentially.
mircea_popescu: once the electronix ppl land i might have a better something.
mircea_popescu: i suspect somehow the actual controller died somehow. nfi how as of yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's pretty odd that yer spare was dead tho. caps shelf-age but not ~that~ quickly
asciilifeform: ( since that article, asciilifeform did get a hotter iron, but reworking rohsisms is still a bitch, the high temp tends to lift the tracks )
asciilifeform: then you'd have to do what i did aha
asciilifeform: it's the 'rohs' europitarded newer ones that dunwant
asciilifeform: btw pre-07 (or so) mobos solder easily, they still have pb
mircea_popescu: took some doing, like everything worth doing fucking does these days.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, unfortunately i uprooted my electronics lab already. it's ok though, i have a crate of replacements on its way.
asciilifeform: i fix mine not cuz like the smell but cuz they're rare enuff , aint nobody making moar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you still haven't thrown that mobo and wanna put it back in service, feel free to gpgram which caps you need, and where to poste'em, i'ma send you some from own crate, then possibly you can get the bmw fixer d00d to solder it for a bottle o'rum or etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: exactly like that one
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:55 asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904064 << yes, basically diana_coman 's by-6 used as a bootstrapper and a two pouch mutualizer to expand it to size ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:40 asciilifeform: for untrained eye, these are prolly indistinguishable from 'brainfuck' and other kunstkammerisms. but for trained eye, oughta be quite unambiguous imho .
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904055 << that's the primo quality of a good brainfuck. just ask the sluts. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 14:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surely you meant 'socket am3' ? 'socket 3' was iirc their 486-compat !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, very likely, though cursory examination did not reveal it ; and im not momentarily equipped to solder on mobos.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se. << done
asciilifeform: so we begin with the accumulator having 2*3 = 6 , and roll from there ( the first number tested is 5, then after that 7, then gets to 9 and that's the first rejected one that doesn't get multiplied in, then 11 does, then .... and so forth until the termination condition )
asciilifeform: the underlying algo, tho, oughta be obv -- if you have a primorial up to X, you dun need to do anything fancy (e.g. m-r) to get the next prime you want to multiply into it , all you need is to gcd and see if the next number is relatively prime to it, if it is -- then it is prime, and can go 'in'. ☟︎
asciilifeform still waking up, may have made other mistake in above, will leave this q also as exercise !
asciilifeform: i'dve posted the commented orig version, but naturally dun fit in log line.
asciilifeform: a large % of the delta , by mass, is eggog detection + helpful message prints for same
asciilifeform: the forth-like notation admittedly requires some practice, for the unprepared ; but the win from it is a fits-in-head interpreter ( ch.17 -- 1024 ln; ch.18 , with subroutines , currently writing the docs -- 1516 , and not expected to ever grow much )
asciilifeform: for untrained eye, these are prolly indistinguishable from 'brainfuck' and other kunstkammerisms. but for trained eye, oughta be quite unambiguous imho . ☟︎
asciilifeform: finally _ discards the 0 put down by the final clause of the conditional when 'not taken'. , (ch17) is the loop terminator, it pops from stack and if sees nonzero, then cycles back to the : , otherwise moves forward. in the end, x puts reg 'x' on stack, $ prints, QY returns 'yes' verdict.
asciilifeform: {_.0} happens if the upper half is not zero, i.e. overflow (really can be replaced by {}, i wrote it hastily) , it puts down a 0 so the loop will halt ; the 'else' clause is {$x.1} , where we did not overflow, so we put the xy* lower half into reg 'x' and leave a 1 on stack so the loop continues.
asciilifeform: xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_ pushes to stack and multiplies regs 'x' and 'y' ; after this, the stack contains two numbers, the upper half of the mul result followed by the lower;
asciilifeform: in the 'gcd == 1' left clause, we have xy*{_.0}{$x.1}_
asciilifeform: after this, { ..... }{.1}_, and so if it were not, the loop simply cycles again;
asciilifeform: .1= computes whether this is equal to 1, leaving 1 on stack if it were, and 0 if were not.
asciilifeform: xyG pushes to stack reg 'x', then reg 'y', and computes gcd, which then is sole item on stack.
asciilifeform: y.2+$y increments reg 'y' by 2 ( y pushes current reg 'y' to stack; .2 pushes 0x2 ; + adds the top 2 items on stack. $y assigns result to reg 'y' ).
asciilifeform: .6$x assigns 0x6 to reg 'x'. .3$y assigns 0x3 to reg 'y'. : starts loop (by pushing its pos to controlstack.)
asciilifeform: i'ma take a bit of log space to expand, cuz thing is a kind of 'pons asinorum'.
asciilifeform: *until width exceeded (the mul has nonzero upper half) to be pedantic.
asciilifeform: ( and if so, mircea_popescu's box is actually younger than mine... )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surely you meant 'socket am3' ? 'socket 3' was iirc their 486-compat ! ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-23#1904027 << the example looks gnarly but is actually simple. in pseudocode :x:=6; y:=3; do{y:=y+2; if gcd(x,y)==1 then x:=x*y;}until (x*y is wider than width); return x ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 10:36 mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-23 10:33 mircea_popescu: sooo, my amd socket 3 mobo that was powering the chatstation crapped out. just like that, turned off for the last time, wouldn't come back.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08a-feedbot-i.html << The Tar Pit -- Feedbot [i]: the feed db; its manipulation; and the feed checker
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, btw could delete item http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 ? was just a test of the comment filteruing issue not understood at the time, has nothing to do with qntra per se.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-22 19:37 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/03/macron-order-french-soldiers-to-join-police-for-19th-week-of-yellow-jacket-protests-with-authorization-to-open-fire/ << Qntra -- Macron Order French Soldiers To Join Police For 19th Week Of Yellow Jacket Protests With Authorization To Open Fire
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-22#1904018 << totally not requiring nato intervention / replacement of dictator with herpyderp kid, france not venezuela ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but yes, 024776FFD3CBD21C872ECCD26AD078C5BA0586E2E57CF68515E3C4828A673A6E goes into trilema bylines.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, they're 20 years old by now. but give me a break, i can find chicks that were spawned 20 years ago just fine, for one thing. and for the other, what the fuck, 2001 era amd cpus STILL to this day the state of the art, they've not yet made better. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and, of course, NO SHOP IN THIS COUNTRY (literally, tried all shops) even has socket 3 amd mobo.
mircea_popescu: obviously i did what any respectable lord would do : reach for the spare. which, once installed, wouldn't post either, just spun the cpu fan at max rotation and that's that.
mircea_popescu: sooo, my amd socket 3 mobo that was powering the chatstation crapped out. just like that, turned off for the last time, wouldn't come back. ☟︎
billymg: hope to have the one that strips out tinymce ready this weekend
billymg: i only had the two additional patches on top of the genesis
billymg: hanbot: phf: the patches and sigs for the mirrored mp-wp tree can be found here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/03/macron-order-french-soldiers-to-join-police-for-19th-week-of-yellow-jacket-protests-with-authorization-to-open-fire/ << Qntra -- Macron Order French Soldiers To Join Police For 19th Week Of Yellow Jacket Protests With Authorization To Open Fire ☟︎
hanbot: phf mp-wp patchset looks good, tyvm.
asciilifeform: ( 100% of problem to date, as observed by asciilifeform , has been in comments / readmes )
a111: Logged on 2019-03-19 19:48 phf: asciilifeform: some configuration of gnat refuses to compile utf source code, that's how i originally discovered it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-19#1903415 << it's -gnatic , ftr. but useless, still permits liquishit ~in comments~ even if set to strictest . ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ largest prime in the 256b primorial.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-14 17:20 mircea_popescu: this is actually going to be teh magic number of the republic. so at this juncture i would like to ask everyone to compute "the largest primorial (ie, product of all successive primes) that fits in 515 bits", sign it and put it into deedbot.
asciilifeform: ( see e.g. old thrd , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-14#1697607 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the above req's only ch17 )
asciilifeform: exercise #3 : prove that this method worx.
asciilifeform: exercise #2 : this tape can be made ~2x faster , find how.
asciilifeform: e.g. ~1s for 2048b. on this iron.
asciilifeform: pretty fast, too, even for large widths