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mircea_popescu: the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 03:20 mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 02:57 mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463243 << quite unlikely. you can't just take a tumour off like a knapsack and get up and go... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: e previous point, he's got a rationalist amulet to protect him from things!), but also i notice - that lesswrong thing is essentially dead, isn't it ? one wiki edit (his), "0 points" throughout whatever that may mean, recent posts nobody cares about, latest diary from February, 5-th most recent blog from last month etc etc. i thought there were many idiots in this thing, turns out it's just a handful of derps that meanwhile f ☟︎
mircea_popescu: he usual crap] ; it doesn't occur to him that while this is true, the expectation that "all the people" are a sort of given, and polyamory must be applied TO them, as they are, warts and all, as opposed to THEM being applied to it, through an extrudation process which substantially changes THEM, as just so happens to be the absolute historical norm both in theory and in practice - but hey, he needn't know this anymore than th
mircea_popescu: http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9p9/open_thread_february_114_2012/5v6g << i followed this link off the guy's page ; turned out to be exactly as worthless as expected (take the most glaringly obvious point - he protests that polyamory practitioners are rich powerful valuable people [which he can't confront so he has to mangle up in terms of skin color etc, which doesn't make him a racist because rationalism or whatever, t
mircea_popescu: i guess more or less like waking with a headache in a dirty bed with a woman you don't recall meeting.
asciilifeform: it is in the logz - this is the pill that mircea_popescu wouldn't even notice if he ate.
asciilifeform: that wouldn't explain it.
mircea_popescu: there wouldn't really be anything to throw in the box for ssl keys tho
mircea_popescu: i suppose this really ends up in a discussion of "we need a new format for rsa keys", doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: he didn't perp the insemination of his wife, what.
asciilifeform: it doesn't??!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then why doesn't his factor list list the factors ?
asciilifeform: because this obviously wasn't it
asciilifeform: seems like he even bagged a few folks we didn't, e.g,. http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E11CDF14DD89647BC7B12CEAA217D3FFFBD37D6640295728BEC80235ED76367F
mircea_popescu: what, you don't wanna see her tits ?
mircea_popescu: woman got shit to do, ain't nobody got time to fuck around in postdocs forever.
mircea_popescu: i guess. i come from a world where women under 30 aren't allowed at uni anwyay.
mircea_popescu: can't be verified, of course, because he publishes some random strings.
asciilifeform: or rather, a pruned (how, i didn't bother to see, but smaller) subset.
mircea_popescu: no he didn't. he didn't get as far as removing the dsa/ecc keys out of the sks dump to get a proper count of rsa moduli
mircea_popescu: they just don't do anything useful is all.
mircea_popescu: this isn't how things work.
asciilifeform: wasn't available in '13 when i started.
shinohai: http://www.egyptindependent.com//news/tom-jerry-blame-violence-arab-world-official <<< so I watched a lot of T&J as a child, I suppose I am a terrorist.
asciilifeform: it wouldn't astonish me if it were 99%.
asciilifeform: there weren't so many of'em
mircea_popescu: whole world didn't fit!
asciilifeform: (i don't presently parse out the subness of subkeys)
asciilifeform: the abcd thing is an idea. but i wasn't really going for an sks clone
ben_vulpes: in other *other* news, "lastpass" password sharting tool won't let users *see* shared passwords, but does provide for *copying* shared passwords and pasting into arbitrary other places on the computer. further, if one gets into the DOM and changes the "password" attr on the relevant element the browser will happily render it in place.
mircea_popescu: punkman turns out i don't have such a wonder ;/ you can have 2tb right now, though. should be ok, nevertheless, i think, seeing how it's not a single file/item, but a collection.
asciilifeform: ehh can't resist, another, http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q1/266
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/234D1BA9CAB9C80F5BC3837F50F2AAF5BE30EAB7A4D7E0F722F5D3C2B857CB0A << no wait, we didn't have it. right ?
mircea_popescu: really, he's going to trade his "giving a shit" for me doing more work on top of the work i did that he can't do in the first place ? in what fucking world!
mircea_popescu: (number one issue for the noob slaves, too, "it wasn't explained". bitch, i'm going to beat you into a pulp, what explain. figure it the fuck out, it's your ass.)
mircea_popescu: you didn't notice the anal dildo. those things are "viscerally piloted".
asciilifeform: can't be arsed. etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't fly airplanes either
mircea_popescu: think about it in these terms : 1. i can sail, and actually used to be / could be very good at it (right body type) ; 2. i could afford a yacht, what. 3. i don't either. ???
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, 100 years ago one couldn't be ru major unless german :D
mircea_popescu: i could see (maybe) why you wouldn't want non-citizen grunts in the army.
mircea_popescu: eh, half the time there isn't who to ask what color to paint the walls, let alone substantial matters.
mircea_popescu: also, afaik "american nondiscrimination laws" work strictly to protect enumerated groups. women, blacks, what have you. "foreign born white men" isn't on the list.
asciilifeform: i just dun get it, most of'em aren't paid to swallow ft meade cock
mircea_popescu: lalala i can't hear you. what ?
asciilifeform: the malfeasance that couldn't be any plainer than this daylight ?
asciilifeform: can't be arsed.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't bother. let them sort it out on their own, what.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in practical terms - so he references both. good for him. anyone interested in doing some work can look at either site and proceed. i can't find any useful item AT ALL on factorable net. not as much as a factor or anything. some vague discussions in summary of supposed finds substantiated in no manner. if this is science you can also be pope, why not.
mircea_popescu: "There are even weirder examples, though - e.g., one of Phuctor's factors is 0x115CFF61CFECFF61BE9, where we see three 32-bit limbs satisfying: limb[1] = limb[0] + limb[2] and also limb[2] is small and thus likely didn't come from a CSPRNG, but possibly from uninitialized memory." << very good point. this person's actually intelligent.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, and the domain was reigstered in 2012. this doesn't serve here : they have to have history specifically in the things discussed. otherwise, it's not unlike someone applying to a job requiring 5000 hours of flight experience on the basis of his driving license from 1993. fine.. but ?
BingoBoingo: Ain't nobody got time for that
Chicago: BingoBoingo, I'm afraid I don't understand. What do you mean by a Clinton v. Clinton election?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently the video that earned her the trigglypuff nickname was entertaining, but I ain't got time for that. Just gotta leave the triggering stuff here for when Hanno reads the logs before his astroturf sessions.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo can't imagine why anyone'd care ?
mircea_popescu: not exactly. lafond makes this point, re the difference between a police force and a militia. you can't expect the police to protect you against organised violence. it works entirely and strictly for disorganised violence.
BingoBoingo: Even shitty graffiti if it persists projects the image "they" aren't in control.
mircea_popescu: with grafitti it's more a matter of execution whether it is or it isn;t
mod6: broke my shit, then couldn't get my shit to work until I had to refresh everything.
mod6: but if you have "foo-1.0-SNAPSHOT" vs. "foo-1.0-SNAPSHOT" with a different hash because of different build, won't care, you don't get new file.
mod6: well, i guess technically, gradle doesn't even rely on digests at all.
asciilifeform: but careful, don't throw out the ~rationale~ for '05
a111: Logged on 2016-02-21 03:16 phf: ok so http://btcbase.org/upload now works. takes seal and vpatch and saves it to uploads patchset http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=uploads. uploads patchset inherits from experimental, which in turn inherits from stable. those who'd like to upload a patch are welcome to give it a try and let me know if it doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: "this doesn't solve the problem of the sun looking at me funny" "this is not a problem" "am i thick or what ?!" "no, you're just the sort of fellow that's decided afore the fact that the sun can look at you funny and this matters."
mircea_popescu: what problem doesn't it get out of ?
asciilifeform: doesn't really get out of the problem tho
trinque: ah that didn't work; I guess that links to the "do you want to archive" page
meuh: OK, I need to investigate more (going to open again that OpenPGP RFCs) and don't waste your time. I originally tought there was a bug in the interface that was incorrectly reporting my keys as dupes because I've made a single armored export of the public key and feeds this as a single blob to the submission page
meuh: It doesn't feel right
ascii_butugychag: i find it strange that they wouldn't go for broke and break the idiot's dsa key for the occasion
mircea_popescu: isn't it the case that 99% of compile failures get called "wrong gcc version/flags" ? as if that does anything ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag a coupla hours ago i made a cursory attempt to install a factorizer lib (linked in logs). i threw up minutes later because obviously it doens't work. put out a general call, slavegirl picked up the task, installed python 4.4. wrangled for a while with broken cmake settings (pro tip : cmake is known to not correctly identifgy your python, workable hack in this case is to disable the test and manually fix the f
Apocalyptic: if trying ECM don't bother picking B1 under 11e6
Apocalyptic: a pitty they don't sign source archives though...
Apocalyptic: it doesn't have to be coordinated in any way since ECM runs are totally independant, just willing to dedicate some cores
mircea_popescu: (can anyone actually load that https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160503.txt ? i don't see it from anywhere.)
Apocalyptic: 12:18 <+mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing. // I'm already working on a more approachable one, also I don't know what's with you and m-r but I don't think m-r is a good factorization algo, I was and am running p-1 , p+1 and ECM
mircea_popescu: also, did i mention lisp isn't used in production anywhere today ? wouldn't want to skip a day :D
mircea_popescu: so no, i very much expect they "wouldn't be interested".
phf: mircea_popescu: just irked, there's a rare "human record" kind of data that ben_vulpes deals with that exceeds 8gb. why don't you taunt us with your hadron collider data dumps some more?
fromphuctor: i didn't read the log
mircea_popescu: and if it won't do this, the fact that it graciously doesn't require me to write my own asm jumps or whatnot is irrelevant already.
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no reason, nor can there be any reason, c compiler can't take two strings, such as the decameron and the collected works of shakespeare, and multiply them together, as fucking numbers, and spit out the result. none.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber i don't get the speed argument.
ascii_deadfiber: if the only implementation of something were in js, it hasn't actually been implemented yet.
BingoBoingo: The one at the top that isn't struck through is right, I the struck through I forgot to replace a value from last month.
mircea_popescu: dun worry bout it, he won't be able to outlive it no matter what else he does. from experience half a decade later or w/e he'll start whining about how it should be deleted.
mircea_popescu: apparently http://cado-nfs.gforge.inria.fr/ is what bernstein uses. except "Required software tools [...] GNU make and CMake (2.6.3 or later) for building (CMake is installed on the fly if missing. This feature requires an Internet connection.)" and then Connecting to cmake.org|66.194.253.19|:443... connected. ERROR: certificate common name `*.kitware.com' doesn't match requested host name `cmake.org'.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 02:26 ascii_deadfiber: you can't even ~get~ real net in midwest.
mircea_popescu: an expert rabbi, and finally verification be damned, the MEANING of moves can't even be extracted anymore. all this because instead of getting very clearly fundamental principles and sticking to them, they followed the "crazy shit stick on all sides of rifle" approach, with the predictable (and predicted) result that "you fuck it, it gets heavy, and you still don't hit large side of barn". so that's exactly what happens : ea
mircea_popescu: poor hanno boeck & assorted shitbag parade, they don't even run systems with native bignum support, wtf are they gonna do now! 6723834688378347131962599764946917095897099 dun fit in javascript calculator mang, wat do!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 23:56 asciilifeform: incidentally, didn't the derp already have a 'we did ALL the keyz' post LAST may ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461535 << lmao apparently somebody hasn't fully digested the lessons of history. ☝︎
ascii_deadfiber: you can't even ~get~ real net in midwest. ☟︎