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asciilifeform: the part that bugs me is that the fundamental premise of public key crypto is a kind of downer
mircea_popescu: they are too old to be alive anymore, is the sad truth of the matter.
asciilifeform: but if knuth wants to write in - then tough cookies.
mircea_popescu: except, i do not normally expect to be spoken to by people i do not know.
asciilifeform: instead it'd be a funkspiel between hitler and mr schmuck, the latter having believed that he is speaking to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except the ideal scenario for firing this weapon is precisely a case where the resulting message never reaches mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: it IS however conceivable that a pubkey might be created which carries the fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 but if used to encrypt to mp will respond with "this doesn't decrypt wtf did you do". which event will be very interesting to see .
BingoBoingo: https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/blob/master/spec/amp-html-format.md << In other news Google struggles to get up to qntra's mobile friendly design ☟︎
asciilifeform: (it is conceivable that one might produce a key which will verify mircea_popescu's signed body of works, but which, if encrypted to, resulting ciphertext could be read both by mircea_popescu AND by hitler.)
asciilifeform: and this still is predicated on an assumption, to date unproven, that rsa sig operation is not malleable.
asciilifeform: the point i wanted to make is that the original attitude of 'keys are people' was predicated on ideally 'stiff' keys
asciilifeform: for this bullet.
asciilifeform: they then are the targets.
asciilifeform: there are also people who are not really mute by any reasonable definition but this one. e.g., knuth
mircea_popescu: deaf&dumb being the other kind.
mircea_popescu: notrly. pretty much exactly : doesn't talk much. sorta eternally amazed.
asciilifeform: sure. those bedeviled with... ideas
mircea_popescu: do you know what the term meant, originally ?
asciilifeform: if anything, the net needs more, rather than fewer, of them
asciilifeform: but i disagree that folks who largely listen, and seldom talk, are necessarily 'idiot'
mircea_popescu: yes, fucktard, let it be hearn's job. next you'll be fed by cockroaches. it's their job to move food around.
mircea_popescu: "oh, that's hearn's job"
mircea_popescu: folk who think they're too damned important to irc, blog etc.
mircea_popescu: 2 really reads like "idiots" to me.
asciilifeform: pattern: folks who 1) are somehow interesting (german number theorists, etc) 2) have a very threadbare, if at all present, volume of published signed material 3) communicate their key to other people largely in the form of a fingerprint
mircea_popescu: assbot and btcalpha get them from servers (older implementations) ; deedbot- gets them correctly (you gotta supply the dpaste with it)
asciilifeform: as to where the bullet might be aimed, the phuctor dataset suggests a certain pattern
assbot: how close is OpenPGP tied to SHA1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1jeUdnW )
asciilifeform: https://web.archive.org/web/20100430025638/http://imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg30980.html << mainly interesting for having been deleted from the ml
mircea_popescu: Naphex you ever got that quote ?
mircea_popescu: so far we're at the "one mirrored moduls"
mircea_popescu: it's expensive, and foer that matter - we've yet to see this wonder in the wild.
mircea_popescu: these also tend to be folks for whom this bullet won't likely be fired.\
asciilifeform: there are folks in wot who have neglected this.
asciilifeform: the chore that everybody here has been putting off into indefinite future - that of ~actually distributing one's entire modulus~ - is a necessary thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the pupose of the business card is to filter contacts tho.
asciilifeform: it does not contain the modulus he signs with. only bottom 64b of the sha1 of....
mircea_popescu: the only scenario that does anything in, is when one acquires a key from dubious source.
asciilifeform: which is hardcoded to sha1..
asciilifeform: sure. but this does nothing for key fp.
asciilifeform: notice that the length of the packet is not even bounded
asciilifeform: so, generate something like a reasonable modulus, and then proceed.
asciilifeform: notice that 'the entire Public-Key packet' leaves plenty of tweakable bits on top of the modulus
mircea_popescu: not any string of bits is a key tho
mircea_popescu: yes, but that's still not a key.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cost of a sha1 collision is less than a year of schmuck pay at this point.
mircea_popescu: if you're intimating someone's going to create a sha-1 collision and thereby obtain a key that hashes to the collision, you're exaggerating justalittle.
asciilifeform: do i need to carry on, or is it clear ?
asciilifeform: 'A V4 fingerprint is the 160-bit SHA-1 hash of the octet 0x99, followed by the two-octet packet length, followed by the entire Public-Key packet starting with the version field. The Key ID is the low-order 64 bits of the fingerprint.'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-10-2015#1294954 << and since no one seems to have picked up on what this means, i suppose i must now draw a picture. ☝︎
mod6: nothing in logs, or in terminal stderr or whatnot.
mod6: not that I saw, no.
mod6: beware: this is ~10Mb
mircea_popescu: always an idea to move ssh and lock that port.
mod6: that actually doesn't seem like that many.
mircea_popescu: nothing here. up to date, 100 conns.
mod6: looks like i sustained a port 22 attack over the last 3 days.
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 also check system log for segfault, and post that, if found.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 i saw nothing anomalous on my remaining node... plz post your log at time of crash ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll keep digging in the news mines and look for stuff while I think about it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, can't hurt to make contact. who knows, maybe only superficially stupid.
BingoBoingo: I'm jsut wondering though why they have javascript from fucking coinbase on their page
BingoBoingo: Starting with Bharara's office was a nice touch, but a lot of trying hard
BingoBoingo: Yeah, like all the other Ashley Madison stuff.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool, but... how exactly did they "get" it. public is public.
BingoBoingo: "Here’s the first: Assistant U.S. Attorney Martin S. Bell. He’s based in New York and used Ashley Madison at work. He works for the controversial U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara."
BingoBoingo: They also got this though http://gotnews.com/breaking-gotnews-com-ids-first-department-of-justice-employee-on-ashleymadison/
mircea_popescu: obscure.derp reporting leads to things!
assbot: BREAKING: GotNews.com Ellmers Affair Reporting Leads to #KevinMcCarthy Departure - GotNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1Ndpl )
mircea_popescu: "usg fails to push its out shit out of its own rectum, send halp!"
BingoBoingo: Next is prolly can't push the IOC out
mircea_popescu: but they can't even push the fifa guy out ?
BingoBoingo: The don't like the Jefferson monuments, they don't like the Research Reactor
BingoBoingo: Apparently since I left there's a Libtard "Let's get rid of all the nice things" movement that sprung up
BingoBoingo: Seriously. Or the "this sidewalk is too high traffic for yall to park your scooty puffs"
mircea_popescu: except these droolbodies.
mircea_popescu: every teen everywhere knows the right response to outrage is escalation.
mircea_popescu: srsly, what the fuck are young adults doing over there.
mircea_popescu: where's the "Thomas Jeffersson thinks niggers suck" campaign.
BingoBoingo: Because SJWhales aren't supposed to have this kind of power in Missouri. I thought being in Missouri gave them other things to be outraged about.
mircea_popescu: o wait, the hamplanet mobility solution providers are actually gonna do it ?
mircea_popescu: and this matters because ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There's a Thomas Jefferson statue on campus along with his original grave marker. As part of outrage over a group of people overhear someone say nigger in a phone conversation, Social Justice Whale Hamiltonians want the statue and the grave marker removed.
mircea_popescu: who needs math just as long as they know the obese aren't people, transgender is just the sign of an overactive imagination, all women are lezzies and so forth.
BingoBoingo: I jsut can't believe they are vandalizing the Thomas Jefferson statue and the original Jefferson Grave marker
assbot: Columbia Daily Tribune | Columbia Missouri: Education ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1LRek )
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/education/mu-to-require-incoming-students-to-take-diversity-training/ << better than requiring them to take basic fucking math.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> just from my bad memory - it started as joint venture of an underage admin and other person who was supposed to actually pay bills <<< we don't even know wtf it all was, but hard drugs appear retrosepctively to have been involved.
mod6: i didn't see any messages like that. nothing weird in the logs. just stopped at one point.
ben_vulpes: mod6: interdasting, mine crapped out last night too ☟︎
trinque: ben_vulpes: tenyks doesn't know how to re-snag a nick :(
mod6: Def didn't run out of disk space or anything. And I don't see anything insane in the logs.
assbot: The Republican Drug - Taki's Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqMdNT )
BingoBoingo: "We are told to believe that transsexuals were born that way, intermediate in gender. Yet a striking fraction of the most publicized cases in recent years have been men who were quite masculine in their 20s. (It’s been noted that Jenner and several other famous transsexuals are Republicans or Libertarians.)" << http://takimag.com/article/the_republican_drug_steve_sailer
assbot: Students protest Thomas Jefferson statue, call for its removal | Local | columbiamissourian.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqIbF4 )
assbot: MU jolted by LBC discrimination – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1WQ5gTj )
trinque: We were hemorrhaging support to that [expletive] hippie Bernie Sanders << top kek
assbot: Hillary adopts new ‘goth’ look to appeal to youth   — The Dandy Goat ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCpcY4 )
jcpham: oh neat xchat has an sasl thingy