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phf: i gather as much from elsewhere in
the logs
mircea_popescu: <phf> asciilifeform: why did you go with a separate keys folder instead of relying on existing pubring? << more calmly explained, because pgp is marked for death. we're working deliberately
towards replacing it.
mircea_popescu: if it were as simple as orc = black we'd have long exterminated
the blacks and be living in paradise
mircea_popescu: "oh, forger
the hard problems involved while i focus on painting
the fence!
that'll do it!"
mircea_popescu: you seem
to be of
the same persuasion of
the good folk making "bitpurse.io".
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 21:20:00; mircea_popescu: how'd
that work danielpbarron ?
phf: biggest disappointment of visiting northrop grumman one
time-- no auto-turrets. i
thought surely
there if nowhere else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like what other ways ? you're not willing
to spend 12 hours a day beating
them
mod6: asciilifeform: <+mod6> Ok while I work on
this for a while, I'll pull
that bundle down. Should have one up sometime in
the next few days
to a week.
phf: i guess
that's kind of like seeing conan
the barbarian cover on beowulf
phf: or
that
there's wire
to begin with, or
that he has a fur hat, or some semblance of warm clothes. or
the "sharapov and
the bandit part 5" style of print
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 21:31:08; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform>had standard lcd. but
the latter do not resemble
the machines i have previously used having such << speaing of which, i went
to a local cinema yest. place
tries real hard
to be us like.
they had digital projector. not only were
the pixels visible with naked eye from middle of room, but
phf: for fair comparison
therealbitcoin loc should include relevant openssl bits
phf: actually yeah. i was always curious why "trust system"
that presumably is baked into keyrings is different from signing
the key with your sig
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 23:39:50; mod6: One can do
this for sure.
The idea was, if
the user just has
the scrpit, and nothing else,
they could sync all
the latest wots/seals/vpatches from a mirror.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 23:38:25; mircea_popescu: (which is why i'm kinda chuckling
to myself every
time alf goes on a rant about
teh rent bezzle. sure, it sucks. imagine a world without it.)
mod6: Ok while I work on
this for a while, I'll pull
that bundle down. Should have one up sometime in
the next few days
to a week.
mod6: ok makes sense. i'll work on
that bit of it.
mod6: ah. ok. i see. so let
the user populate
the wots on
their own, other stuff, no prob.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: then you no longer have
the bootstrapping problem you were disucssing earlier.
mod6: it is not required
to do
that, one can just populate
the stuff by hand, ofc.
mircea_popescu: see,
the idea being
that pubkey gotta be a special category.
mod6: the pubkeys,
the seals and
the vpatches
mod6: no, it sync's stuff from
the mirror via wget, currently
mircea_popescu: but
these are
two diff
things,
the v sync (of code) and
the pubkey part.
mod6: how will
the secure population of
the pubkey dir work? just by pulling keys manually or is
this an automated function?
mod6: hmm. well, i can
take all of
the sync stuff out for sure. will reduce a
ton of code.
mircea_popescu: mmm i don't
think
that's either intended functionality or a good idea.
mod6: One can do
this for sure.
The idea was, if
the user just has
the scrpit, and nothing else,
they could sync all
the latest wots/seals/vpatches from a mirror.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: to run v in
the first place one's supposed
to provide a populated pubkeys dir.
mircea_popescu: (which is why i'm kinda chuckling
to myself every
time alf goes on a rant about
teh rent bezzle. sure, it sucks. imagine a world without it.)
☟︎ mod6: I guess I could just not print who signed
the mirrors. Leave
the mirror list sigs in place on
the server, and
they can be checked later by hand if anyone wants. but i kinda like how it shows who signed it.
mircea_popescu: the concept of unaffordable housing chiefly exists on
this earth
to keep women pliable and young derps out of
the pool.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, younger. for
the other
thing, much less of a bitch.
mircea_popescu: why not ? much better
to fuck women
that need affordable housing
than women
thart don't.\
ben_vulpes: everyone wants affordable housing,
they just don't want
to house people who need affordable housing anywhere near
themselves.
mod6: will have
to
think on
that a bit. :]
mod6: hmm. chicken/egg
type of problem, maybe not so simple. if one wants
to check
the signed mirrors before init, how can sigs be checked from wot if no wot yet exists.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you might find it amusing
that now
that
the rains have moved in, Hinson is holding a series of neighborhood meetings
to figure out "what
to do" about colonel summers.
mod6: found a bug. will fix on next
time posted. for now; after `./v.pl init
http://thebitcoin.foundation` is run, run `./v.pl w`
to ensure all of
the WoT's get imported
to
the keyring.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes>
the entire operation's profit plan for
the forseeable future is
to increase
the forced obsolescence rate and drive down
the number of atoms and fab processes in
the whole
thing while charging ever more. << and even so it won't be able
to keep up with inflation.
phf: kakobrekla: i didn't have any expectations, i didn't know anything about it until half hour before. one of
the people who invited me walked out half way
through and
the other one appologized.
mircea_popescu: it hit all
the dumb spots, it could stand as a
two hour summary of "this is a full description of how
these imbeciles are imbeciles"
mircea_popescu: this
thing (baires) was an INCREDIBLE collection of
the stupideology of argentinians.
phf: disapointed
though,
that you can't just drive your sit
to get popcorn and coke. have
to walk.
phf: went
to a movie
theater
to see
The Martian. i only ever watch movies when in-wot recommend something enough, so i didn't realize how bad a movie can be, and
this was one of
the worst movies i've ever seen. snl "you can do anything" skit done with a straightface.. in space! but anyway,
they've replaced all
the regular rows, with reclining sits, and you can push
the button for
the sit
to recline. i was
☟︎ ben_vulpes: the entire operation's profit plan for
the forseeable future is
to increase
the forced obsolescence rate and drive down
the number of atoms and fab processes in
the whole
thing while charging ever more.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'lcds' << apple SOP. watch exists
to maintain price point of late model pn0hes, which exist
to prop price point of new pn0hes, which exist
to prop price point of
the *cheap* craptop...
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how
they imagine
the pos digital projector can compete with a 1950s soviet
thing
that went around
the villages
to show propaganda shorts.
mircea_popescu: if
things moved < 5% it was clear, if faster
than
that holy blur on a shitstick!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform>had standard lcd. but
the latter do not resemble
the machines i have previously used having such << speaing of which, i went
to a local cinema yest. place
tries real hard
to be us like.
they had digital projector. not only were
the pixels visible with naked eye from middle of room, but
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> anyways,
the notion
that
the us courts have
the mandate
to execute people or have any other stort of effect on
the world is long past its sell by date << word.
mircea_popescu: or
that
there's more examples of
this pinnacle of lulz
than
there are "scientists" drawing breath at any given
time.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> folks familiar with usg 'scientocracy' will laugh, but
the fact is,
the mind-reading box does not necessarily have
to... work.
to be put in use. << right right. cholesterol is bad for you except its good for you and salt is bad except its good and hey, as long as
they got "science" what difference does it make
that
they're 100% consensused on opposite
things every 30 years.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 18:15:21; mircea_popescu:
this is
the sunday psa
that eulora needs more noobs.
mod6: (Hint: Please rtfm at least one of
the guides before anyone says "Doesnt work!")
assbot: How a secret Chinese military drug based on an ancient herb won
the Nobel Prize -
The Washington Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1jXDoi3 )
mod6: Ok, so I've posted my version of V for some review before it goes
to
the ML. Inside
the archive you'll find a `v.pl', `v_quick_start.txt', and `v_users_manual.txt' - and each with a corresponding sig.