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mircea_popescu: and notice
that publishing a self-signed pubkey doth not help anything.
punkman: pete_dushenski:
try gpg --list-packets --verbose
to see what's different
pete_dushenski: don't ask me where 'keyserver.mattrude.com' came from when i linked from btcalpha. funny lookin'
thing.
pete_dushenski: can someone explain
to me why pgp public key blocks appear
to differ while resulting in
the same public key being imported ? are differenct hash algorithms being used ?
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:15:13; mircea_popescu:
thjat's why borax gets
them. it scratches
their carpace,
they lose water.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: iirc it had 'cunt with
the safety on'
mircea_popescu: anywya.
the migration of old porn brands
towards softcore and
then bedroom, bath ^ beyond is inevitable.
mircea_popescu: i
thought
the whole
thing hustler did was
that playboy didn't have cunt in it so flint put cunt in hustler.
ascii_field: but
this is no more and no less astonishing
than when, e.g., ibm ceased
to build computers
punkman: "The company now makes most of its money from licensing its ubiquitous brand and logo across
the world — 40 percent of
that business is in China even
though
the magazine is not available
there — for bath products, fragrances, clothing, liquor and jewelry among other merchandise. Nudity in
the magazine risks complaints from shoppers, and diminished distribution."
ascii_field if he were
tlp, might say something re: 'pig appreciates his own
taste, in america'
ascii_field: 'my son cried, he did not want
to eat winny pooh!'
ascii_field: where beloved cartoon characters were printed on
tins of infant food
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: a 1990 issue of su 'наука и жизнь' had a letter
to
the editor concerning
this meme, freshly introduced
to su
mircea_popescu: or what is
the idea,
the pig appreciates HIS OWN
TASTE ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be more logical
to have wolves and foxes on
the packaging ?
mircea_popescu: honestly, i am a bit puzzled by all
these dancing pigs and excited chicks used
to market animal flesh.
ascii_field: there are ru emigres in usa who habitually ate
tinned food sold for cat, not out of poverty, but because it seemed entirely logical
that quality canned fish ought
to have a picture of a cat on
the
tin, and
tastes just like
the other cans
mircea_popescu took canned
tuna afficionado out for fresh
tuna, "what is
this"
ascii_field: these folks actually do not recognize
the real
thing as 'cheese'
ascii_field: one
time, pet went on a visit
to a household in
the middle states where
they habitually ate petrocheese
mircea_popescu: note
that both spreading and eating works. so
there is
that.
ascii_field: this process continued in usa
to its logical conclusion
mircea_popescu: mimolette exists because
the dutch imported cheese was
TOO EXPENSIVE. and about half
the respected cheeses exist for similar reasons.
mircea_popescu: am i
the only one aware
that schlitz is "urination opening in male pants" in yidish and so amused at
the notion ?
ascii_field: the cost of actual cheese, in usa, per-gram, approaches
that of silver
binaryatrocity: and I
think California makes more cheese now, so I don't even know
binaryatrocity: Wisconsin is known for cheese,
the largest city in said state is known as "Brew City", as many of
the current mass-produced american beers found
their start here
mircea_popescu: wait wasn't oregon
the beer state ? i
thought wisconsin mostly made
the plastic cheese.
mircea_popescu !downs ascii_field because hey. at one instance in
time eh ? :D
binaryatrocity: signing and posting messages between multiple accounts with
the same name serves as some proof
that
they are controlled by
the same entity
binaryatrocity: the point is
that anyone can go make a Reddit account with my nym
binaryatrocity: You could again sign a message with your key stating
that
Twitter or some other entity is posting
to your
Twitter account? lol
mircea_popescu: what exactly is it about wisconsin
that makes it "real world" anyway.
mircea_popescu: moreover unless i want
to fuck you i couldn't give less of a shit about your "real world" identity
binaryatrocity: sure, you have no proof of real-world identity, but you have 'proof'
that control of both accounts is had by
the same entity
binaryatrocity: you can reasonably assume
that both accounts are owned/controlled by
the same person, namely "that guy i know on Github"
ascii_field: binaryatrocity: and when
twitter posts 'i fuck goats' under your account, how will you ~unlink~ ?
binaryatrocity: stop
thinking about Keybase at all, if you know me for my code on Github, and you see I've signed some message with my key, and see a message similarly signed on a
Twitter account
binaryatrocity: by signing a message with your PGP key,
thus linking hte accounts
binaryatrocity: I understand what you're saying, Keybase could not exist and you could still do
the same process of "proofs", signing a message and positing it
to
Twitter saying
this is me achieves
the same
thing
ascii_field: something like
the reason why
the church never countenanced
the various attempts
to weigh
the dying
to learn
the mass of escaping soul, etc
mircea_popescu: today in b-a news : all questions are
the same question!
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> or, if american forgery, why not crank out a pgp
to sign with
mike_c: because consumers have come
to expect simplicity.
HeySteve: mike_c, any idea why
they don't implement a gribble/assbot verification system
to solve
the problem?
mircea_popescu: actually mike has it.
this is i agree
the best avenue
to approach
the problem.
this is what's "evil", binaryatrocity :
that in
the pursuit of a fundamentally, inescapably false bit of fiction, you are asked
to forfeit your actual life.
mike_c: this is
the problem - imaginary "credibility"
mike_c: why? what would make me
take
that leap? because
they are on
the same keybase page
that somebody set up?
mircea_popescu: the reasonable assumption is a beast
that wasn't yet born.
binaryatrocity: I'd imagine more
the other way around, if you already 'followed' me on
Twitter, you'd reasonably be able
to assume
that
the other 'accounts' listed are also owned/controlled by
that-person
mike_c: the problem with keybase is
that it's smoke and mirrors.
there isn't any actual link between
those
things, but it is pretending
there is
mike_c: that I somehow know
that it's not somebody else posting
those
twitter messages because
the same public key and
twitter address are listed on some keybase page?
mike_c: this lends some credibility
to your
twitter feed?
mircea_popescu: last fucking
thing a spammer wants is
the attention of intelligent people.
mircea_popescu: i
think it might be related
to
the spam discussion. "why is spam misspelled ? not because
they can't hiore an editor. but because
the demographic."
ascii_field: or, if american forgery, why not crank out a pgp
to sign with
mircea_popescu: in
the sense
that nobody uses it anyway and whoever forgot
the bot setting on us-en
ascii_field: reddit, for whatever reason unknown
to me, is mainly used by folks who sprechen sprechen englisch
ascii_field: those folks aren't using
the net as such.
they're using sms (and,
the occasional arsebook)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field spanish is
the most spoken language in
the us, get off.
mircea_popescu: gee, i dunno.
the fact
they exist, as opposed
to squirming in a lake full of its own guts ?
mircea_popescu: and
then in
the same day ima have
to explain
to well intentioned fellows what is evil about usg-tronics.
ascii_field: idk, when i link article in en
there, it brings in a deluge of burned bandwidth
mircea_popescu: anmd
then reddit will go "see ? |REDDIT DRIVES
TRAFFIC!!11"
mircea_popescu: davout no, because "irrelevant" MP is going
to accidentally by an apropos drive 50000% more
traffic
than reddit\
mircea_popescu: "well if you're already
there it looks like
there's people
there". sure. same is
true of grand central station
ascii_field: 'i'm on arsebook, but i have a brain!' 'good work, now arsebook can say, 'some of our users have brains!'' lubing up
the chumpatronic intake hopper.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 16:16:53; mircea_popescu: binaryatrocity
that's not wqhat it does. what it does is, it allows keybase.io
to PRETEND like
they're relevant, based on your own work.
davout: punkman: yeah sure, but what's usually referred
to by SHA256 is SHA2 with a 256 bit length
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 21:59:05; pete_dushenski: davout: "According
to Schneier it costed ~$3mn in 2012
to find an arbitrary SHA1 collision." << cost
mircea_popescu: no i mean - some old cars are actually more expensive old
than
they evere were new.\