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a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 04:55 asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there.
mircea_popescu: but getting back to the previous lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 is remarkably nutty. so you liquidate my bonds at an (avoidable) cost of .8, in exchange for a 50% equity position and... what commitment exactly ? if for instance you need money next month, what do you do ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: be it os, kernel, gcc, whatever. so ideally there'd be a "this is the correct processor/ram/disk/motherboard" etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea here is that it'd be ~nice~ if we had a complete list of these responses. "my x dun werk" "use y".
mircea_popescu: trinque iirc hanbot got it on a few boxes.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes setting a standard doesn't mean anyone's ~forced~ to follow it.
mircea_popescu: "my computer dun werk" should have a "use this config" ready response.
ben_vulpes: if i say "all boxes getting racked will have 32 cores" that's a huge minimum buy that i don't know that l2 can really eat many of.
mircea_popescu: well... you know how we've been trying to go "here, use THIS gentoo" for a while (to maybe some results so far) ? \
asciilifeform: it so happens that asciilifeform has purchased a 50% stake in bisp. and specifically with one condition: that mircea_popescu (named, concretely) will not be a back-seat driver there. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu , having sold his stake, and not even yet a subscriber, wishes to decree re what is done at bisp.
mircea_popescu: what's "being a party" has to do with anything ?
asciilifeform: a customer (possibly ! not yet subscribed) -- yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu you are not a party to bisp.
mircea_popescu: we still don't have a proper item on which to base hardware strategy.
asciilifeform: supposing we are still carrying on with a pretense of a forum, and a lordship.
asciilifeform: well if 1, it's a 1u subscription, if 2 -- 2u, so forth
mircea_popescu: so how many of 1, 2 or 3 do i want to fit in a 1u slot ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:48 ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is making a delivery run : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783930 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: iirc a) they were nsa boxes and b) the problem there was transportation, after you managed to get them locked out of the phf flight that ended up not happening
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, sure. I have a lot of things going on tho lol.
mircea_popescu: if you copy his style of "work", you'll be doing yourself a significant disservice.
mod6: i think we may need some good data collected to come up with a list of arch's that leak
mircea_popescu: mod6 you are talking to a man who spent his time dicking about and as a result is getting delorded. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i do not order mod6 , 'go and make such a test', no.
asciilifeform: but yes this calls for a proper test, with rdtsc, then buncha MUL, then rdtsc again
asciilifeform: well if it's a multicore, naturally won't saturate, proggy is singlethreaded
asciilifeform: this prolly calls for a proper test with rdtsc. but i'm saving this for 'dessert'
asciilifeform: mod6: well ideally somehow to swap the inodes. still thinking how one might arrange such a thing.
ben_vulpes bbl, $child has announced bedtime by angrily tearing apart a couch to build a fort
mircea_popescu: hm mod6 did i miss a payment or what happened here ?
shinohai: Pretty good here, gonna do an offline V test in a bit once I get a few more things squared away.
shinohai: Also was a strong voice behind "Hey you Bitcoiners are gonna miss out if you don't integrate segwit" shit.
shinohai: At least NMC has a use somewhat.
shinohai: "A gringo that it is constantly sober, his skin must be magic!"
BingoBoingo: Could be the recent ordeals has given me a harder appearance and manner of carriage? Or possibly the lower castes of orcs are developing a mythology.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, my clothes are the same. Just fit looser. And these are the same bums I have been seeing since December. So far harmless except for the time in January a less frequent one got insistent beyond his station and was corrected by his fellow bums.
ben_vulpes: also first blockquote missing a closequote
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/15/eucrypt-chapter-10-oaep-with-keccak-a-la-tmsr/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt Chapter 10: OAEP with Keccak a la TMSR
asciilifeform: complete with Framedragger's gurl, 'Manning’s friend Isis Lovecruft, a cryptographer and Tor developer, as well as a WikiLeaks critic' etc
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of shitware, https://archive.is/NPY51 >> irssi: 'Use after free when server is disconnected during netsplits', 'Use after free when SASL messages are received in unexpected order', 'Null pointer dereference when an "empty" nick has been observed by Irssi', a few others in same spirit
mod6: cool lobbes. Was a shot in the dark. :]
shinohai: Yup, had newer gcc and I was unfamiliar with gcc-config until now. Had only ever used a single instance.
asciilifeform: shinohai: what was the challenge then ? this was a box that came with an evil gcc originally ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: this was a musltronic gcc or which
BingoBoingo: And irony of monkey fucking ironies. Guess who has a local bank account today. BRB, tengo una leccion de Español (not a euphamism).
mod6: Alright. I can do that a bit later.
ben_vulpes: mod6: if you make a deposit call, can you give jurov the address and amount to send?
asciilifeform: ( but trick is, simple ~when seen as a whole~, rather than 'html-simple' where the building block is simply very dumb and to do anything even slightly complicated on it, requires herculean effort )
trinque: that can either be a simple protocol, or a complex one with key history and whatever other nonsense gets dreamed up.
trinque: there's also the interesting question of what wot ratings look like in a gossipd world. yes, I will still warehouse my repository of wot data, but I'd also be happy to chatter ratings to other nodes.
trinque: if not, what was the point of the rating? a merit badge?
asciilifeform: nick is clothes worn by a key.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. the pov that nick is merely a convenient method of referring to a key . )
TomServo: exception goes away, meaning folks are generally expected to make a new key when P exists?
trinque: it's what the meaning of holding a particular key is.
trinque: and I'm dim on wanting to make that a "feature"
asciilifeform: no fewer than 3 times submitted 'updated' gpg pub with new date ( finally got tired of this, put in a null date )
TomServo: Perhaps I misremember, didnt' asciilifeform renew a key and maintain ratings?
TomServo: I think a new key is neccessary in my case and figured if changing nicks, that'd be the time.
trinque: wise folks will pick both a nick and key they can live with.
ben_vulpes: TomServo: not saying no benefit, would actually be a great thing to do and write up: "so you want to fuckgoats your gpg"
lobbes: So I guess only "breakage" here would be in log only, which wouldn't be a breakage at all to those paying attention
TomServo: Wouldn't a FG powered kochrsa be preferred over no FG?
asciilifeform: a number of folx changed handles, it doesn't break anything
TomServo: lobbes: Continuity break? As I understood there was a (perhaps annoying to trinque) process for renewing keys.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783926 <<  I'd say this one is more of a personal preference. I guess if you're going to start fresh now would be a good time, but personally I've never seen  "handle=realname" as so important as to warrant breaking wot continuity. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive
jurov_moving: Bought a house for btc back in october, this week we're finally moving.
ben_vulpes: well you've got the 1 machine that's ready to ship right now, dulap yhes? and then of the 2 remaining diskless gotta a) get disk in 'em and b) get mircea_popescu to okay their installation
ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice ☟︎
asciilifeform: '...institutionalized money laundering as a pillar of the bank’s business practices. Illicit financial activity at the bank includes transactions for parties connected to UN-designated entities, some of which are involved in North Korea...' etc etc
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:27 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes might be able to supply middle management if he takes an active interest in this venture. But as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/13/a-summary-of-bbisp-activity/#comment-114709 I would like to see new management present at least one plan where they envision keeping the corpse warm for a month and pulling the plug if they find it unfeasible in a way that allows BingoBoingo to survive in a position no wosre than
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was the thought behind suggesting ben_vulpes for that role here, after the results of send a Librarian to South America... some decisions probably gotta get more conservative http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783781 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if you're a smart guy, you just use this to prop castle ben_vulpes into existence. you two need a place to confer, and it doesn't properly belong here unless there's some kind of larger problem, so for day to day ops... you gotr a fodder.
ben_vulpes: ave1 seems to think i'll need a new key
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:13 mircea_popescu: or in more pointed terms, we've been running a http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ except for brains. the reaction in the population has been comparable. it turns out about as many people have brains as girls have tits. and they're about as intellectually useful, too!
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783842 << BingoBoingo needs supervision and tasking at a (micro-)scale that mircea_popescu understandably has zero interest in providing. now this may be a case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783173, but if building an isp for tmsr isn't worth bleeding for i don't know what is and so this is the breach into which i intend to step. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways patch might be to introduce a bindip= param in the .config
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> similarly a heathen could get himself malleused and notice that both 'separate' nodes simultaneously disconnect him << At this point heathen is expending effort
asciilifeform: at any rate this is an easy patch if somebody finds a reason to patch it.
asciilifeform: similarly a heathen could get himself malleused and notice that both 'separate' nodes simultaneously disconnect him
asciilifeform: what's the use of plugging >1 ip addr into a box, if all the proggies get served on all of'em
asciilifeform: fact of the matter is that all reasonably well-behaved socket proggies take a config as to where to bind
asciilifeform: (why, is separate q : perhaps a testing trb, and a classical trb ? )
BingoBoingo: Not necessarily a must fix. We have a cheap and easy hack to fill a fuckton of ip space if necessary.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at the risk of pedantry , it binds indeed to a port, http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp?v=makefiles#1174 , BUT! , does not bind ~to one ip~ , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp?v=makefiles#1206
BingoBoingo: It turns out trb doesn't bind to a port. Thusly if you change the myip parameter other boxes will talk to it on the old ip out of habit in addition to the new.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I'd like to see S.NSA's equipment come down to .uy and be also a customer.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783768 << Well, we figured a fresh start would be best for all involved. Although, other arrangements can be considerd too - such as customer credit if so desired. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 10:40 diana_coman: mod6, mind giving a bit more detail regarding the business+technical side?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since you mentioned it -- what exactly is a 'bytem' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 17:58 diana_coman: yes, how big is not a head count strictly of course; put it as how powerful if that is clearer
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783585 << continuing on this discussion (not so as to improperly call asciilifeform 's usual dithery blather such ; but for the record, that a discussion was at least ~attempted~) : s.mg boardroom eventually decided yesterday to employ a format for the pre-padded rsa messages. it will consist of [F][random bits][message].
mircea_popescu: or in more pointed terms, we've been running a http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ except for brains. the reaction in the population has been comparable. it turns out about as many people have brains as girls have tits. and they're about as intellectually useful, too! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "not big enough" a brain, not "not big enough a stomach".
mircea_popescu: in this scheme, F is an 11 byte construct, as follows : [byte, random][bytem size][bytem size][T][M][S][R][-][R][S][A]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783585 << continuing on this discussion (not so as to improperly call asciilifeform 's usual dithery blather such ; but for the record, that a discussion was at least ~attempted~) : s.mg boardroom eventually decided yesterday to employ a format for the pre-padded rsa messages. it will consist of [F][random bits][message]. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but their absolute need for bitcoin is in any case a more fundamental matter than their physical existence.