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trinque: I'm not doing it with duct tape this time
trinque: because that's what led to this.
trinque: today I'm actually working on his replacement, which when complete I will provide sources. I'm starting from the bottom (stay online, keep your nick, no seriously) so do not know when it will be complete.
trinque: adlai: he got ahead of himself and double-spent an output, then lost track of which output to use. I've fixed the db, and expect that he's back on track.
adlai: deedbot put the hash in the blockchain, assbot put the content in the cloud, what more does a man need?
trinque: btcd is barfing on the transaction for some reason
adlai: first time, it didn't deed at all; second time got notarized in block 380163, but doesn't show up on deedbot.org
trinque: right, when you say "had to be submitted twice" I expected that it didn't accept one of them
trinque: adlai: might have to do with whenever the last block happened
adlai: (which had to be submitted twice)
adlai: trinque: deedbot.org is not showing the latest deed
mircea_popescu: in other news, intel finally teased out tlp's email. if anyone cares, he's 52. etc. ☟︎
jurov: since there is no gento pypy maintainer, it's running into dep problems
jurov: tangentially related, i have done the mistake of emerging pypy and enabling it systemwide
mircea_popescu: "so toxoplasmosis is basically a conspiracy against rat's best interests ?" "no. it's basically a selected accident. all the other accidents that didn't close the cycle didn't live to get a name."?
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asciilifeform: (namely, in other distros you are not trying to ~build~ the world, and are not thus exposed to the fact that most of it is not deterministically buildable any more without generous helpings of blood magic)
asciilifeform: gentoo simply appears to be the worst-looking horse in the glue factory on account of not having a protective coating of bullshit
asciilifeform: and much of the disease is not specific to this one linux variant but to the entire ecosystem
asciilifeform: but there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR IT
asciilifeform: i cannot escape the observation that i am keeping alive a very sad and sickly thing
asciilifeform puts this on list of what to do with the replacement for dulap, when such appears
asciilifeform: and get the tarballs where ?
mircea_popescu: take the time sometime and make the mirror.
asciilifeform: 99% of a typical build time on my box is just churning through dead mirrors.
mircea_popescu: obsolete technologye.
asciilifeform notices that 90+% of traditional gentoo mirrors in his records are dead
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just, somehow, they dun bother me.
asciilifeform: idk how mircea_popescu does it. typing on a kbd with no springs is like fucking a surface with no hole
asciilifeform: perhaps where they have tentacles.
mircea_popescu: ya that too. "oh you could put the laptop on a table" well fuck you then, i could jkuist use a kbd ?
asciilifeform: aha or where to put hands.
mircea_popescu: but i disover the problem with me actually is SIZE. as in, gotta be this long.
mircea_popescu: strangely, yes, that one's fine.
asciilifeform: and that atrocity in the desk photo is ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever wrote a trilema article on it.
asciilifeform: ('general purpose' to be understood as a box on which one might, e.g., write code.)
mircea_popescu: yes it does. a general purpose box is the next best thing
asciilifeform: so this sheds no light on the building of general-purpose box.
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha then it's the one that lets arbitrary www load arbitrary files from your disk.
mircea_popescu: not like it's useful anyway, the difference between "run this binary" and "build" is absent in thos context
asciilifeform: i was actually not speaking of laptops, but explaining to shinohai that 'make a usable system from scratch with no modern code' is a spittoon
mircea_popescu: not that it has to, but for curiosity.
asciilifeform: but does it ~build~ them
mircea_popescu: acrtually this laptop runs firefox, vlc etc
asciilifeform: it is relatively simple if you are mircea_popescu and the only thing that needs to run is lynx and gpg 1.4
asciilifeform: shinohai: thing is, anything to do with 'i want a WORKING OS with WORKING PROGRAMS' is the entire spittoon.
shinohai: If I can avoid drinking the whole damned spitoon, I would try to avoid it.
shinohai: I may need to mull it over moar ...
shinohai: well I daresay *that* was an interesting tale asciilifeform
asciilifeform: shinohai: do you know the story of the spittoon ?
shinohai: So finish your OS asciilifeform and save us from this package maintenance hell.
asciilifeform: because apparently there IS NO SUCH THING as unbloated unix to be had ANYWHERE today
asciilifeform: ended up with barely usable openbsd. 500mSec or so delay on fopen() !!! because no ram left over (from the 64M) for disk caching
asciilifeform: i had one when i was in school, and it worked great. but today - nope. because go and try to install freebsd 4.7 - where do you get the packages? gonna patch by hand ?
asciilifeform: a year or so ago i chronicled (see logz!) my attempts to get a toshiba 'libretto 100ct' vintage ultraportable going with something like a reasonable unix
shinohai: I rather expected something to go wrong. The day I get my sdr in the mail, lappy takes a shit.
mircea_popescu: luckily the battery goes into the laptop rather than the other way around os all good.
mircea_popescu: the chinese keep making them. seriously, the batteries i bought were so much younger than the laptop it'd have been pedophillia.
asciilifeform: li ion cells age on the shelf
mircea_popescu: and throw them in the regular garbage, too. teach the plebs a lesson.
shinohai: So if anyone needs good touchscreens, I got 'em lol.
asciilifeform: these things sucked donkey balls when they were new..
asciilifeform: and they hold a charge ?
asciilifeform: the other thing is that batteries are not to be had for vintage lappy
asciilifeform: but i assumed that 1024x768 and a pen-800 is not shinohai's idea of usable.
asciilifeform had this very box
shinohai: Me too. I bought two of these shiity Dell i3's last year. One died within 6 months, other died yesterday.
mircea_popescu: ibm thinkpad.
asciilifeform spent many, many k-usd establishing this
asciilifeform: shinohai: THERE IS NO TOLERABLE LAPTOP
shinohai: Good afternoon, #bitcoin-assets. Anyone here care to make a recommendation for a replacement of my lappy that just died?
mircea_popescu: ie, do the idiots use it themselves or is it just a fuck me
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mircea_popescu: is that irl or just meta ?
mircea_popescu: apparently "biotruther" is a word, now. what libertards call people who know biology that's not been approved by the global warming committee
mircea_popescu: in any case the reference is particularly weak - the officers in question ACTUALLY LED THE CHARGE. ie, were there.
mircea_popescu: also eventually sums to zero.
mircea_popescu: how about the "i know you've won the war mr wellington, but what have you done for us lately???"
asciilifeform: eventually summed to zero
asciilifeform: how about the idiot brit officers with their purchased commissions, leading 'charges of the light brigade' one after another ?
mircea_popescu: i don't even see much of a problem with tha.t
asciilifeform: instead of 'flying the mahogany bomber' after the first one.
asciilifeform: the only peculiar thing about being an admiral's son and another admiral's grandson is that you get to crash machine after machine
asciilifeform: flying was (is?) considered a 'blueblood' thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you ever saw hot shots, the base commander there is also a sort of mccain/mcduck
mircea_popescu: the fact that republicans have a knack for this is kinda strange. recall the bush record ? BOTH of them ?
asciilifeform: aha. but m's flying career was long over by the time launchpad appeared.
mircea_popescu: but those accounts only popped up once mccain was in the news, whereas the cartoon looks like silver age/HB
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mod6: nice town. probably will take a long time to rebuild. they had a hurricane that hit back in like 2002 or 2003 that hit them pretty hard, probably not nearly as bad as this though
mod6: I've been to that place many times: Puerto Vallarta.
mircea_popescu: so apparently there's a hurricane headed for mexico that's well twice the size of katrina
punkman: oh that's in the logs
asciilifeform: this sometimes leads to interesting contradictions. everywhere in usa there are strict laws against drunken driving, but if you go into a suburb you will notice pub after pub, each of them accessible ~strictly~ by car
asciilifeform: even bums will often 'drive' a motorized wheelchair thing (provided by usg, through some byzantine and ancient pension thing)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306871 << re: cars in usa: yes, ~everyone~ is expected to drive. something, anything with wheels. even cripples - in most places here you just need one arm and one leg. there are special shops that customize the cars for this, i used to work next to one. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the notion that it is somehow possible to program in 'strictly defined' c is a deliberate lie
asciilifeform: but the basic lesson, which is for some reason hidden behind a thick veil of shitsmoke, is that c is not built to be reasoned about mechanically, ergo relying on the compiler to save you from yourself is retarded.
punkman: asciilifeform: I found this interesting "the STACK UB analyser found that UB code occurs in 40% of all Debian Wheezy packages (that use C)."