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mircea_popescu: the text follows the conflict between the progressives (hey, whatever it costs, worth doing) and the conservatives (keep your damned ringworms off our famr!)
asciilifeform: didntcha write that one already ?
mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal. ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: i've seen fmt like tricks used all over the place to do for example date formatting, e.g. (year #\- month #\- day), but the previous sexp is compiled to either format or directly to princ's. unless your domain is text formatting, it makes little sense to have an intermediate form.
asciilifeform: document describes saxitoxin, a favourite of the american services
asciilifeform: so in that respect, plausible
asciilifeform: 2nd page looks like dot-matrix. looks quite like some of the 20 y.o. printouts i have lying around.
mircea_popescu: shape's wrong, mechanical failures are wrong, the whole thing looks digital.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the machine type looks fake to me.
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't think fmt is a horrible idea, but it (and similar packages like iterate) would've been great if they were part of the standard. as it stands they get you some elegance at the expense of being an idiosyncratic external dependency. you still have to learn format and loop, but once you do, you start thinking twice about replacing them with something marginally better.
asciilifeform: one is left to wonder, for whom was this.
asciilifeform: appears to be a catalogue of stasi poisons, and 'intravaginal' route is mentioned.
asciilifeform: speaking of dramas, mircea_popescu will get a kick out of this l0l : https://cryptome.org/2015/10/stasi-two-docs.htm
asciilifeform: gorillas - tetris.
asciilifeform: seals have been taught to play cymbals
asciilifeform: but it is true, circus trainers have accomplished some amazing things
mircea_popescu points at the "driving car" discussion.
asciilifeform: note that it is 'light matches' not 'galois algebra'
mircea_popescu: the endless wonders of the brainz!
asciilifeform: there was a saying, 'beat a hare enough and it will learn to light matches'
mircea_popescu: somehow the women their mother's generation did not have this problem. it ... sprung out of the void, around 1970 or so.
mircea_popescu: until i beat the shit of her every time she didn't do math properly ?
mircea_popescu: you knew who else grew (for whatever reason) with a complete atrophy of the part of the brain that does "that math-y stuff"
trinque: sure but go back x years and that's writing letters or what have you
trinque: probably every other time I go spelunking for information on lisp machines
asciilifeform: trinque: trick is that i don't do it in real time and with meat
trinque: asciilifeform: I run into places you've interfaced with strangers all over the net.
asciilifeform: i'm most of the way there, personally.
asciilifeform: whatever organ is responsible, it is entirely possible to grow up with (for whatever reason) atrophy of the 'interfacing with strangers' circuits.
asciilifeform also finds it dubious. such legends get blown up by biographers until the result is nothing approaching plausible
mircea_popescu: that you readily see the "cpu in cpu" thing for what it is, yet you';d allow THE SAME PEOPLE do THE SAME THING to your own brain.
mircea_popescu: it earned it, on its own merits, as part of the whole construction's history. it's there and you honor it.
mircea_popescu: the actual life of the mind as a thing is of the mind, not of a butchered brain.
asciilifeform: any more than witch doctors in congo (or american programmerz) invalidate the fields on which they shit
asciilifeform: thing is, the existence of rampaging pseudointellectuals does not invalidate actual life-of-the-mind as a thing.
asciilifeform recalls very interesting accounts of the angle that was taken when grilling such folks
mircea_popescu: lyf of the minds!
asciilifeform: it was never a 'main prison' in the sense of holding appreciable numbers of prisoners at one time
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ^ is there such a thing?
mircea_popescu: "i have decided that only the upper third of the mandelbrot set is of interest. WHY DOES THE REST KEEP RECURRING WE HAD AN AGREEMENT!!1"
mircea_popescu: how come ? how could this be ?
mircea_popescu: tel lyou what : the weird make it, the brave take it from them, and the smart take it from the brave. true in the "empire building" us west as well as in lublianka.
mircea_popescu: again you do not get to say what parts of brain are irrelevant.
asciilifeform: i've nothing against the hindbrain per se. but it is not the mind. why not call arse and elbow same word also, if we do this ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you think ?
asciilifeform: of the hindbrain.
mircea_popescu: and that is not the first & best life of the mind ?
mircea_popescu: (yes, tlp counts)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, you musta been readoing a different www, half of mine's with and about whores, criminals and the insane.
mircea_popescu: for that matter what do you think you are, tchaykowsky ?
asciilifeform: his www. (but perhaps there is another, made of chalk and written on alley walls, which is about hoodlumming ?)
mircea_popescu: who's to say he doesn't and hasn't been ?
asciilifeform: why does mircea_popescu not hang out with hoodlums instead of in theatres?
mircea_popescu: and how the mind got to be mind in the first place.
mircea_popescu: dark alley is life of the mind alright. the first. still the best.
mircea_popescu: and you don't get to declare what parts of reality are irrelevant.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:05:03; mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308996 << not the same. 'know how fridge works' is still in the keeping of a life of the mind. whereas 'be impervious to ambush in dark alley' is (barring very few exceptions, philosopher-soldierieng-mircea_popescus of various strips) ~not~. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:04:31; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308923 << the problem with this approach is that you also don't agree with the theory that the deer is less than the fox. fine, don't agree : the fox eats the deer nevertheless. your options are either a) to not share an environment, in which case your failures are not fit-reducing or b) to grow uniformly.
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308968 << whatchawaiting for, let's have the article ☝︎
asciilifeform: (criminology has zero to do with scientific evidence and everything to do with adjudicated guilt and confession. just the same today as it did when folks were tried by ordeal a thousand years ago.)
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:43:36; mircea_popescu: but this counted as valid science for decades in hundreds of convictions.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308965 << see the fingerprint threads in the logs as to why. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'secure'-only-against-sp4mz0rz is just another way to say 'anal rape by usg but with anaesthesia so you aren't acutely writhing in pain from it'
asciilifeform: it is in fact the very definition of sabotage. ☟︎
asciilifeform: guess what, i don't give a ~flying fuck~ about 'it's more seek000re except against the folks with the master keys'
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:35:25; mats: it is p easy to wax poetic about the state of computing, but, folks run nix until they don't and nonetheless need to raise the cost for attackers
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308948 << disingenuous to bring it back to 'but we gotta raise the cost for attackerz' while carefully omitting to mention that in ALL OF THESE 'mitigation' derpitudes 'attacker' invariably, INESCAPABLY really means 'attackers other than usg' ☝︎☟︎
trinque: the eternal september was already out there; the whole thing was the ignorant masses raiding the internet from "out there"
thestringpuller: i was more referring to how people say memes in real life, i.e: "not bad dot jpeg"; the reddit eternal september is like an infection
thestringpuller: the most visible manifestation of the eternal september irl
mircea_popescu: no, they don't.
mircea_popescu: "Wealth management is a profession on the defensive."
mircea_popescu: to put it in vernacular terms, quod times non te destructit, quod te nutrit te destructit.
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm the avatar of luck, huh.
mircea_popescu: there exists in this world a woman whose actual experience of a first date with me includes this part where she was taken to a dark alley in a completely new town, made to strip and well... no, rape didn't ensue. she jsut got a crack on the butt.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308943 << incredibly, i thought that was going to be a highly controversial piece that'll get my skull cracked. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:12:08; jurov: there's, say, plenty of hungarian "aristocracy" that were patrons of nothing
mircea_popescu: if not that, not this, either.
mircea_popescu: "but he just wanted email to work" no, srsly, fuck you.
mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:09:38; asciilifeform: i don't subscribe to the cosmography where the hoodlum is 'the better' and the concert violinist walking through the alley is 'a loser' because... because why, he oughtn't have such a soft skull? if he 'were anybody' he could afford a security detail? because why ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308923 << the problem with this approach is that you also don't agree with the theory that the deer is less than the fox. fine, don't agree : the fox eats the deer nevertheless. your options are either a) to not share an environment, in which case your failures are not fit-reducing or b) to grow uniformly. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i love this chan, there's people in the know on EVERYTHING ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:37:51; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308827 <<< you actually know these guys/read their stuff ?
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308951 << the atruechurch guy? Yes I read it, and I met him. I stayed with his family for about a week when we were in florida for the republican national convention in 2012 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: u get nottin' for nottin'", if they want money ~they better go work for him~.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:08:40; asciilifeform: just like a hoodlum who gets the drop on you in a dark alley, cracking your skull with a lead pipe, is not 'your better' on account of it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308922 << there's a problem here. of the original set of hoodlums, meyer lansky actually survived, to die in the 80s in florida like any serious jew from beyond the pale. most memorable about him is the anecdote that when about 9 was trying to run a numbers racket with some friends, and when the older boys tried to muscle in, as older boys are supposed to, he demured. "yo ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phillipe equality was aristocracy. lavoisier & co were the newly rich.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:05:39; asciilifeform: i was sad, as a boy, reading about how lavoisier, father of modern chemistry, met the guillotine
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308917 << dude. "de" lavoisier was exactly the opposite of aristocracy, more in the vein of donald trump. he inherited the fortune of a ferme generale entrepreneur (tax scam the french copied from the romans - guaranteed to make one crassus-rich. sort of at-the-time equivalent of "real estate development") and married the scion of the same. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: back in the days....
mircea_popescu: "The physical chip was designed by Mykotronx (USA) and manufactured by VLSI Technology Inc. (USA). The initial cost for an unprogrammed chip was $16 and a programmed one costed $26."
mircea_popescu: a safenet actually bought them. heh.
mircea_popescu: btw what happened to mykotronx
mats: I'm not sure you see how tiresome it is to rehash the discussion as follows -- 'gtfo off leaky ship already', 'am in middle of atlantic', 'so swim to island (without provisions)', 'then get on a ship without holes', 'there are none on horizon', 'getting on that ship in the first place is a problem of a logical class', 'yes, but... am here'
mircea_popescu: if after going to all that fucking trouble and obtaining that much actual superiority the people for whom i supposedly did it behave like fucking teenagers i would actually go to their house and feed them their children in cooked parts.
mircea_popescu: it's enough to drive one stack. im surprise not more usg-kgb folks go on murder rampages. i know i would.