log☇︎
383700+ entries in 0.136s
mircea_popescu: all of them.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason people engaged in fencing stand sideways. and they all do it, because even if awkawrd and lulzy a stance, it is more secure.
mircea_popescu: security is, in the end, the job of minimizing exposure.
mircea_popescu: also, whole disk vs file that was being processed. also very different payoffs.
mircea_popescu: that's a problem of perspective, tho.
mircea_popescu: again different windows. "computer being on" vs "that second right after he's typed a pw"
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/embed/edAxujKev1I
mircea_popescu: re-reading the thing i gotta give it to dub... he kinda has good points.
mircea_popescu: jurov ostensibly they can just shoot you, too. hardly part of the discussion i guess.
mircea_popescu: we can agree that wearing a maillot is kinda like being dressed, except if it gets wet, or if it gets flashed or if there's a black light etc.
mircea_popescu: they may be more convenient or profitable or w/e, but they're still qualitatively different.
mircea_popescu: nanotube yes, we can. but we'll have to agree that while some things provide absolute protection against the attack vector, some other things provide partial protection.
mircea_popescu: you're not making his case for him in any circumstance.
mircea_popescu: Bunnyh in most free countries it's enough to say it's nobody;'s business what you kee pthere and the da can either make a case or get lost.
mircea_popescu: what is this, england ?
mircea_popescu: herp. the proof is that i keep secrets ?
mircea_popescu: circumstantial evidence, of the weakest sort. i'll just point and laugh at you.
mircea_popescu: i deny. what ?
mircea_popescu: "your honor, we know X talked to Y. therefore X did it" ?
mircea_popescu: i fail to see how this works.
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't quite follow the logic there.
mircea_popescu: nanotube it's basically an antivirus product. it's good to have for your girlfriend, so it keeps the system sorta-above water.
mircea_popescu: nanotube nope. recall, im the guy using his real name in the bitcoin space.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, it's not.
mircea_popescu: if your email wasn't gpg'd its read long ago.
mircea_popescu: i got news for you
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, it's lazy cvasisecurity. grand. may work well in many cases. i don't want it in my airgapped machine.
mircea_popescu: so you steal a diskload of gpg files. what now ?
mircea_popescu: except it doesn't rly. it tries to.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in good old unix fashion, a partition is a file anyway.
mircea_popescu: rightj. the death of fde is the boot part rly.
mircea_popescu: nanotube as long as it's not bootable, perhaps it can be well implemented.
mircea_popescu: ftr, im not saying fde will never work. it may eventually work. we're not there yet.
mircea_popescu: nanotube yeah.
mircea_popescu: 's convenient in some cases. you have to appreciate we were discussing a specific rthing, ie, making an airgapped machine.
mircea_popescu: Bunnyh i am not disputing it
mircea_popescu: dub well sure, but it still is a smaller burden. smaller burden wins.
mircea_popescu: otherwise we're back to yadda yadfda, you can't say faith healing doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: this is why you need experts : so they make definite statements in places where the common sense seems lost.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 except you can.
mircea_popescu: without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this alone is the end of the theoretical discussion.
mircea_popescu: file level encryption makes a less burdensome requirement.
mircea_popescu: basically, in the simplest of terms : fde requires key be available for the os at all times the disk is in use.
mircea_popescu: how the hell are you going to boot an encrypted disk ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i didn't touch gpg in the current session.
mircea_popescu: ok, let's make it simple : do you agree that in order for your system to be safe it has to be powered down, whereas for gpg to be safe it doesn't have to be powered down ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, actually, i can.
mircea_popescu: that's just one example.
mircea_popescu: machine doesn't knwo you from me.
mircea_popescu: it's just nonsense. to be able to boot you will have to at some point trust the machine. that's all.
mircea_popescu: i can just steal your key from the boot in a variety of different ways, also from recently powered down systems,
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: jurov here's an 5 year old forum post going through the basics : http://forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-617093.html
mircea_popescu: there aren't such for plain old pgp.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 there are numerous different avenues to remove encryption from a full disk encryption schemes.
mircea_popescu: please do. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: because should you obtain the encrypted file there's nothing you can do.
mircea_popescu: nanotube and as to "use both" : the point of science, any science, is to isolate what works from what doesn't and exclude the latter. this is why dentist treats your teeth his way rather than recommending you "also use shaman method".
mircea_popescu: why not just use rot13 then
mircea_popescu: so what is this, "it's safe because bad guy is presumed stupid" ?
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: if it fails to do that, it fails.
mircea_popescu: but that's the usecase man. full disk encryption is supposed to protect the data from physical access attacks.
mircea_popescu: nanotube if i get your "full disk encrupted" pc i can full disk decrypt it. if i get your gpg'd stuff, good luck to me.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 not quite. passwords suck on http because http is stateless. that's true.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell chsados sup
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
mircea_popescu: we'll be registered once we take over, and we make the rules for registration.
mircea_popescu: until such a time I move into the building vacated by the fiat ex-stock exchange, and until such a time I'm sitting on the policy panel deciding how stock exchanging works, this will remain the case.
mircea_popescu: they're all unregistered.
mircea_popescu: .d
mircea_popescu: that's siome brave shit.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/555/difficulty-to-continue-increasing-by-over-20/
mircea_popescu: ;;wrongulate 300
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: ;;copumpkinprice
mircea_popescu: ;;diff
mircea_popescu: gtfo.
mircea_popescu: "Dr. Garrow states President Obama had Tom Clancy killed as well and noted that it takes 5 days for plant toxins and most poisons to break down and leave no traces in the human body. Amazingly enough, or coincidentally, the doctors did not perform an autopsy on Tom Clancy’s body for 5 days."
mircea_popescu: wait. tom clancy, the guy with all the bad novels ?
mircea_popescu: and penises.
mircea_popescu: w/e that is.
mircea_popescu: that aside, i can live fine with people up to about "modern conservatism"
mircea_popescu: im on the bottom
mircea_popescu: chick was born in iran, too.
mircea_popescu: is valerie a reptillian ?
mircea_popescu: yw lol
mircea_popescu: ;;google the problem with pmbs
mircea_popescu: ---+++--
mircea_popescu: big deal russian girl band. first group to get eu platinum in two languages.
mircea_popescu: they were 14ish when they met.
mircea_popescu: http://videonudestars.com/images/stories/foto-t-en/tatu-2/tatu-10.jpg
mircea_popescu: "si no cocino, no como" > if i don't pork, i don't come.
mircea_popescu: indeed.
mircea_popescu: a they never resolved that last bit yeah. nm.
mircea_popescu: o ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean, the publicly held chunk is 200k.
mircea_popescu: the math doth not work ?