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deedbot: diana_coman rated trinque 3 << I trust him with my BTC (deedbot); writes at http://trinque.org/
ascii_lander: i'ma take a nap nao and so bbl.
spyked: and just to be clear re "economic value": the whole system of academic grants is based upon the lie that "there are enough resources to satisfy everyone". well, there aren't, tough luck. which reduces grant proposals to a very sophisticated way of begging, i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVpsJnbq3A
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 20:22 zx2c4: the reason is actually, "so that i can have a fixed income without any concrete labor obligations"
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798435 <-- not sure it's my place to comment on this, but it sounds a lot like the "academic grant" trap that I've fallen into at some point. consider this: the abstraction of money exists so that humans can attribute economic value to things. on the other side of the problem, "creating valuable things for humanity" or for "no concrete labour obligations" are not economically quantifiable (any value, ☝︎☟︎
spyked: user interface, through the os and down to hardware components. which brings us back to the way engineering was done in the olden days, before that weed overdose, i.e. http://archive.is/TRrOE
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798160 <-- I can definitely see this angle. my point is that by giving up the "general-purpose" pretense altogether, the system designer can qualitatively reduce the implicit trust in code running in the system. so yes, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798161 but moreover, one would not expect to find e.g. a pdf processing library in bitcoin node os, as "bitcoin node" can be specced all the way from ☝︎☝︎☟︎
lobbes: well, stick a fork in me, I'm done
mircea_popescu: that's because i was born with a silver spoon.
mircea_popescu: i am the motherfucking bad pun ~CHAMPION~.
lobbes: damn. meta-pun. try as I might I cannot follow
lobbes: and with that I have exceeded my horrible pun quota for 2018
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 16:42 shinohai: it's raining tits of late. April showers and all i suppose
redfawnn: fuck gutter, probably the worst I heard
mircea_popescu: i dunno, "weewee" ?
mircea_popescu: i disagree.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how he managed it, but apparently his early cuntoo actually works for practical purposes.
mircea_popescu: oh i see.
redfawnn: I tried to reverse on phone but couldnt figure out
trinque: ben_vulpes: hey I just had a vacation idea
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-14 01:17 mircea_popescu: trinque you might be overdramatizing ; what, you think i've never lost a team ? what am i, made of pure energy ? shit happens ; gotta have plans in place and move on.
trinque: I hope this "banned from" thing has more episodes
mircea_popescu: hm. i can't help but read this passage as "on my way i got waylaid by these fellows who saw i had dough and well..." ; but then again i'm a cynical sort.
danielpbarron: yeah i got my visa and everything
mircea_popescu: o wow, so you were going to brazil and then ended up living with the true church folk ? i had nfi!
trinque: I'll know. The thermal printer lets out a screeeeeeee
douchebag: I
freezie: alright https://i.imgur.com/ArL08eO.jpg
mircea_popescu: "A couple weeks later, I get accosted by some drunk chick who heard from a friend that I “think women shouldn’t be allowed to speak.” She argued with me alongside one of her friends — that is, I argued some perfectly valid points, while she got increasingly beligerant; much to the friend’s dismay, who even expressed that I was coming off as the victUAL". jeez this guy's saturday nights!
ben_vulpes: hanbot has something in her .htaccess i haven't worked with her to unsnsarl yet
mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ << interestingly enough, this still doesn't. what's the danielpbarron hanbot difference i wonder.
trinque: lol, k. I guess he changed his WP settings for hostname
ben_vulpes: i dun count
freezie: i have breasts
douchebag: i need to go to bed after this too
douchebag: The one I'm getting right now will be my last one for the night
trinque: douchebag: how many you got, and I'll crack this megawad off before bed
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-4-14#334157 << was the link i meant to paste
mircea_popescu: now whom didn't i pay here
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1798822 << I lol'd ☝︎
mod6: I'm fine with this if you are. Certainly wern't trying to force anything on you by any means.
trinque: I think a 1BTC ceiling would be a satisfactory tolerance for loss from the hot wallet, which I would be able to eat. which is not a promise to eat the thing's losses endlessly either, but on the airgap-wallet side I have enough confidence in the setup that my tolerance is higher.
trinque: ben_vulpes: that's an accurate rendering of my opinion. I think mircea_popescu was correct in that there's an unavoidable cost of doing business of a startup wallet service.
ben_vulpes: i want to read what trinque has to say as well
mod6: Oh, i see.
ben_vulpes: 'too big to fail' i mean
ben_vulpes: thoughts topmost on my stack (after apache arcana) are about the implications of the foundation backing the 'tbtf' initiatives. i know that someone must, but going from a rate of zero in however many years to two in two quarters is worth pausing and thinking for.
mod6: Anyway, ok. I'm happy to approve seeding the hot-wallet.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you can't afford to pay for development. i appreciate the sentiment, and i'm not saying his work is negligible, but if you count all the IMMENSE amount of devwork the republic has produced, however you add it up you'll either a) be on the hook for more than the foundation has, significantly more, or else b) you'll be stuck taking lowball to the level of insulting people.
mod6: I'd be fine with that. I'd even go a bit further and throw in some extra funding for the development, historical and forward.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing if it covers his original hotwallet it's all roses.
mod6: You're totally making sense. It could be a reoccuring grant; needs to be re-newed yearly (or some interval). I'm not in the best position to have an idea as to what is a sensible amount for the interval.
mod6: I view his work on deedbot & wallet as highly-necessary and critical. So you kinda read my mind when you asked us above.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'm making any sense. am i ?
mod6: Upon approval these can be deeded so we can keep track. I'm starting to have a hard time remembering them all!
mod6: Speaking of which, ben_vulpes, let me know what you think, but to help keep track of these grants, I think the applicants for a Foundation grant, should write up a small document outlining: 1) How much they are requesting, 2) What the intended purpose is for the grant, 3) The Duration (if any, i.e. one year, or one-time, etc), 4) The current block height / date. 5) Signed with WoT Key.
mod6: I'd be happy to hear proposls, indeed!
trinque: at any rate I approve of this engineering process
mircea_popescu: trinque you might be overdramatizing ; what, you think i've never lost a team ? what am i, made of pure energy ? shit happens ; gotta have plans in place and move on.
trinque: I think you are right, and I'll just consider this an investment in the thing's growth
douchebag: I just want to have a dedicated box to review these on, and as mircea_popescu mentioned I'll be sent a server
trinque: I've handled orders of magnitude more bezzlebucks elsewhere and yet this obviously, I care a great deal more about.
trinque: mircea_popescu: just trying to frontload the decisions so I'm not on my ear when somethign raises its head.
douchebag: and I have some friends really big into RE who are going to be helping
douchebag: I'm definitely going to look into them
mircea_popescu: but i don't judge you all that dizzy, either.
mircea_popescu: now, i am in the fortunate position of having valuable experience : bitbet's hotwallet was 1btc ; and it was never popped.
mircea_popescu: trinque the line i was going on with the "what odds do you give" is that CDB is indelible from the book, stays there in red. cost of carry of capital, goods or otherwise, and so on.
trinque: I'd actually like to find a path to the hot wallet sooner than later, for reasons of getting large enough
trinque: isn't always going to be the case that I'm next to the machine at the same time
trinque: that's about what I've been doing
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine half dozen tx/day sorta debit can in any meaningful sense "pay for itself".
mircea_popescu: i... guess.
trinque: yeah, but I'm not extending people trb+linux+amd64 insurance
trinque: since I am unwilling to bail the thing out if the hotwallet piggy is popped, I have been reluctant to do that.
trinque: still doesn't really pay for me cutting txn; obviously the ideal is I cut txn to refill a hot wallet, bot can use up to hot wallet balance without operator interaction.
trinque: if I'm moving this from a "hey use my airgap system for cheap" to "high throughput wallet system" it's going to pay for itself
trinque: relatedly, I'm going to instate a withdrawal fee. will decide what that is later
douchebag: I have some girls who are gonna wanna show tits tomorrow
shinohai: oh i found it nm
hanbot: http://thewhet.net << lastest post (mod_rewrite ergo links not yet live, or i'd link y'all directly) is mp-wp_genesis. esthlos and anyone else who was waiting on this is encouraged to test it out --setting up a test blog-within-a-blog is gonna be a royal pita and cause yet further delays, so please do try it out, lemme know how it goes.
trinque: I was gonna link http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/
jossi: trinque: I may have issue, deedbot not responding
trinque: got ya thatbitchlola; going to be moving the wallet to pizarro hosting soon as I can.
jossi: Something that I enjoy and is stimulating & enriches
jossi: Oh, I am one that doesn't do the worth while stuff :o
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 20:37 zx2c4: i'm not saying everyone with leisure _does_ do something worthwhile with it. but you cant deny that leisure is in many cases a necessary precondition for many great aspects of civilization
thatbitchlola: okay it said after i did everything
jossi: But I don't want to judge the man
jossi: I see what you did there lol
jossi: I suspect he only works with the right cocktail of pills in him lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, i can't imagine how i'd put up with the nonsense.
jossi: I wouldn't mind a more suburban area
mircea_popescu: from what i hear ukraina sucks these days. how's nyc ?
jossi: Every Roma girl I've known has been super good looking somehow
mircea_popescu: i live in costa rica.
jossi: I did in school, but not currently
jossi: I have 2 years left
jossi: I did for fashion
ErisMoon: https://i.imgur.com/yboOELF.jpg