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BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally a vtron that has my 'origin' op, can check any tree for consistency simply by iterating over the files and running origin(hash_of_file)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> there shouldn't be any flag - nor should it press unsigned things. && <+mircea_popescu> with the test key ? why not ? fucks with your workflow ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> im not sure it has to die when it encounters malformed patch (be it not signed or whatever), but anyway. << i was thinking this was simple because of this:
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 00:03 mod6: Essentially, during the verify_signatures subroutine, if a vpatch is found to NOT have a corresponding signature, death().
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1587685 << the simplest way to implement this is to iterate over the ~seals~, finding corresponding patches << <+mircea_popescu> not particularily correct ; should iterate over patches, check sealness ; act accordingly. << 'validate_seals' does this; iterates over patches, finds seals for patch, verifies or fails if bad ;; now dies if there are none. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it, it is O(NM)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the current setup (with the patch.nickname.sig) is an artifact of the idiocy of pgp, where one cannot take the signature and extract a hash from it with which you can look up the patch from a manifest of patch hashes in O(NlogN)
asciilifeform: because eventually mircea_popescu et al will gripe about 'this is dog slow'
a111: Logged on 2015-08-15 17:46 mircea_popescu: why ?
a111: Logged on 2016-01-18 15:35 ascii_butugychag: jurov: theoretically you can avoid using the name prior to .sig, but then you have to check ALL seals agains ALL patches ALWAYS and this is O(N^2)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 00:03 mod6: Essentially, during the verify_signatures subroutine, if a vpatch is found to NOT have a corresponding signature, death().
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 00:01 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587625 << you gotta appreciate scrutiny is very inelastic. many people used their own implementations ; discussion of others' versions only meaningfully starts after some localized familiarity etc. in any case "being qualified to even use v" is an iffy thing - seeing how it's a novel design, and the novelty is fundamental and conceptual, nobody is technically qualified to use one. you wouldn
mod6: err 'validate_seals'. that's the one.
mod6: Essentially, during the verify_signatures subroutine, if a vpatch is found to NOT have a corresponding signature, death(). ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ftr it was definitely ben_vulpes who found $bug
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587516 << actually /i/ found it, and only when for personal lols i told it to do a thing that it shouldn't have << ah, right. ☝︎
mod6: it's called 'validate_seals'
asciilifeform: i can see mircea_popescu's 'this is a car with 4 brake pedals, wtf is wrong with you' argument.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is not a pure win. for instance, some folx don't even ~keep~ a nonairgap signtron around. and now -- they would have to.
asciilifeform: anyway, the behaviour of having 'wild' button with red flip cover , that permits (and at all times, clearly marks, 'WILD') unsigned patches, or mircea_popescu's variant, where you gotta have 'test key' in .wot, are equivalent afaik
asciilifeform: mod6: as i understand, trinque and mircea_popescu were taking the position that 'it is dangerous and useless to have an off switch for signature check'
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 18:21 mircea_popescu: in any case - mental models of logic, as with mental models of anything found in nature -, are approximations. the same mechanism that allows a guy to isolate 0* from null.predicate allows one all sorts of psycho-imunological responses that are rather requisite to maintain the subjective notion of the self ~in a format comprehensible to itself~!
BingoBoingo: <trinque> pete_dushenski: tundras are motherfuckers; they're in the running. << Recently Honda Civic SUV edition "CRV" fell onto my rolling candidates list. Slotted just below rust-free 1986 S10
mircea_popescu: certainly the attempt worked wonders for pete_dushenski writing readable articles. what exactly made his previous work less good than his current work ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lel, gentoo
trinque: mircea_popescu: and wouldn't misapplication of this only further miswire her, and produce worse results ?
asciilifeform: and yes, 'greeks could have made tesla coil.' the same way that gavin can guess the bits in mircea_popescu's privkey
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik this is not specific to woman
asciilifeform: speaking of greek-fu, what does mircea_popescu have to say re the traditional story of hero of alexandria's steam kettle ?
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack -- yes, mircea_popescu's greek-fu is strong, and asciilifeform's -- weak. so, let's ask him, is it a misperception of untutored barbarians, that the greeks picked reasoning over observation , categorically ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if the rabbit cannot be pulled out of the hat, perhaps there is no rabbit in the hat ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Quelli cattivi cattivi che urlano - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/playlist%3Flist%3DPL26A9A3F21989DFBD>; Quelli cattivi cattivi che urlano | TravelBook.TV: <http://www.travelbook.tv/playlist/quelli-cattivi-cattivi-che-urlano/PL26A9A3F21989DFBD>; Comincia il gioco, chi c'è c'è, chi non c'è non c'è. Si - Le 17 e 4 minuti: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: 'those with title to something worthless will find a way to extract value from it, making it even more worthless. An abandoned suburban subdivision might be worthless as housing, but valuable as a dump site for toxic waste.' (orlol's discussion of 'asset stripping', in http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml )
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this is not universally true however. even in the narrow urban-rural-1970s universe discussed, there are some who are more alienated by the urban than the rural, prefer to live on the farm.
trinque: pete_dushenski: tundras are motherfuckers; they're in the running.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me that a chumpatron operator has to experience any more 'alienation' than a pig farmer. the latter does not particularly care how pigs remember his work. nor the chumpatronist -- how the chumps remember.
mircea_popescu: prolly ben_vulpes 's civic is as good as that gets.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: thus "natural resource value down 75% yoy"
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: stealership wants 800 for part, 6.1hrs labour at $155/hr. also recall these are pitiful canuckbucks, not megaU$$$D here, so chop a full quarter when converting your bezzle outrage. but yes, civic tranny is cheap, toyolexus parts very spendy. anyways, my mechanic is doing it for closer to $1300. still a slap but not quite as dear.
jurov: it's exploitable only if someone were calling curl_printf with like "%0128.128L" format string, no?
trinque: asciilifeform: https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/curl_mprintf.html << they just have copies of all of them in libcurl ?!
asciilifeform: https://curl.haxx.se/docs/adv_20161221A.html << in other noose
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 08:58 ben_vulpes: anyways the notion that anyone on facebook is anything other than a non-player character is hysterical on the face
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 08:48 ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/JedWheeler << low dough calolxit twittering
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know airline pilots have mostly girls, yes
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 16:59 asciilifeform: neato ben_vulpes , is this mirror somewhere /
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: 2k? for a /starter/?
pete_dushenski: http://images.car.bauercdn.com/upload/5573/images/aeromax_2_560px.jpg << finished product. yummy.
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: ¿Pellizcar o peñiscar ? | Castellano Actual - Universidad de Piura: <http://udep.edu.pe/castellanoactual/pellizcar-o-peniscar/>; Urban Dictionary: penis car: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dpenis%2520car>; Peniscar - Dicionário Online de Português: <https://www.dicio.com.br/peniscar/>
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm just trying to help you continue the natural order of things and move on to next car
pete_dushenski: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FgblF0NsG1A/WFmUcmNln1I/AAAAAAAAoGI/IsVf__4qaJ0p3vwc_ySI9mlq0qLm-NkcACLcB/s1600/Fz11DuI%2B-%2BImgur.gif << speaking of civilisation, this is how pm's lexus ls460 (same as mine, natch) merges onto freeway protected by small motorcade. note the utter fluidity of the white-gloved hand gestures.
asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu admiring bush's glass bookcase doors, with trained eye
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu saw many things, probably also saw home reactor and well-maintained mig.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 04:33 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cedar ftw. << belongs outside or as an unfinished accent. Bookshelves need to hole WEIGHT!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cedar ftw. << belongs outside or as an unfinished accent. Bookshelves need to hole WEIGHT! ☟︎
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I don't think you know how wood is marketed. There SPF or "Spruce, Pine, Fir" for the ones that suck because the bulk of particular kinds of softwoods all suck in the same ways. Then you get outlifers which are also lumped together like Douglas Fir and Larch or the 3-ish species of Southern yellow pine.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: pretty sure the beating stick my old man used was cedar. metal tipped too!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a black and white cookie. you know, because solstice is like equinox.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: And further what sort of lumber do yall even grow up there anyways?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: pls to describe this war on softwood lumber? Does this mean I should build new bookshelves sooner instead of later?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i expect once the land/ownership update makes it in, eulora will give a run for their money to a lot of peoples.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 9.85 * 10**6 * 1.9988850174216028E-7 = 1.9689017421602788
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Land Area / Countries of the World - World by Map: <http://world.bymap.org/LandArea.html>; Geography of Canada - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Canada>; List of Canadian provinces and territories by area - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_area>
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 71.71 * 800 / 287 / 10**9 = 1.9988850174216028E-7
phf: mircea_popescu: while you're in that french mode you should watch (or rewatch?) fantômas. there's the three 1960s ones, with de funes. i have no idea if they are any good, because i haven't seen them for a very long time, but i suspect that they are sort of comedic 60s take on james bond.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was in re: your described cut.
asciilifeform: for some reason the only thing that came immediately to mind is the 'piss_on_patents' flag, or what was it, that you used to have to set on linux box to get mp3 and truetype going
asciilifeform: if check_extractable and not doc.is_extractable:
asciilifeform: File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/pdfminer/pdfpage.py", line 123, in get_pages
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not immediately
asciilifeform: let's take, concretely, ProcessBlock : http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#1319
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et al : the pill that would be needed to cure the locks retardation once and for all (and enable, e.g., queueing) while preserving semantics, would be to go through each and every function call in trb and determine if it A) Reads state B) Modifies state C) both D) neither
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you can replicate same effect using 'eatblock'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in so far as it consists of the block processing delay, as described earlier, it does.
asciilifeform: but yes, mircea_popescu's algo is The Right Thing
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: archive.is is paywalled
mod6: ben_vulpes: aha, gotcha.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not what happens. those get banned quite normally.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it'd have to be continuously dumped
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 19:04 mircea_popescu: we have no definitive answer on this.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so listen, the important thing here is, have you managed to reproduce the "blackhole" in an isolated system ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski speaking of which - i didn't use "spreadsheets" like the fucking usg tards ( http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/ ) or for that matter wordperfect 5.1 ; nor did i have any use for a pdf maker. the whole article came out of an awk and a sort
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 13:32 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is that paste on your binary star ?
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: (0.0003*2)/(4*4)*100 = 0.00375
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: internet census is right up there eh ? the irony of that one little study making such a dent in a world awash in 'data' and 'research' where n=43 is otherwise sufficient grounds for public policy decisions... never fails to amus.
pete_dushenski: like clarkson's tampons (a reference only ben_vulpes make catch)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski top 3 on trilema this month consists of something from 2012 and something from 2010 + the internet census. so... yeah.
BingoBoingo: Aha, pete_dushenski you now write like a genitle!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the latest bit is easily your best piece yet. people generaly hated because yes, throughout the lenghty process you sounded ~like every other jew boy reading the torah for bar mitzvah, ie, ridiculous. but insistence pays off, and now i dun have to groan when reading your stuff, which is a welcome change indeed.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 02:04 mircea_popescu: happy bday mod6
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> btw mod6 ben_vulpes trinque re the whole db/fs etc discussion, anyone recall the symlinks method / proposed tests ? << yah, im trying to dig this up now actually.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-24 21:05 mircea_popescu: punkman because a) when i first asked, their idea was "buy a mug" ; b) the link i finally fished out did not include any reference either i or fluffypony found (see it in logs) - they have A DIFFERENT unlinked page for this purpose
davout: mircea_popescu: could match me too
davout: mircea_popescu: takes ages to load, i'm 33 and what is this
davout: mircea_popescu: what about it?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is that paste on your binary star ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes seems trivial to separate stem from social "sciences", women's "studies" etc. plenty of avenues available, too, like "deny all female access" or "no science without scientific method" or so forth.
mircea_popescu: btw mod6 ben_vulpes trinque re the whole db/fs etc discussion, anyone recall the symlinks method / proposed tests ? ☟︎
trinque: incidentally pete_dushenski, my brother was having the same sort of reaction. in his case, it was tetracycline for acne (you know, instead of being unamerican and laying off the fast food) having nuked his gut flora.