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mircea_popescu: "It is a kind of extreme method acting; call it ironically absurd behavior." << i knew "method acting" was fucking stupid
the moment i heard of it
ascii_field: 'thank you - you have showed me
that i am not an addict.'
ascii_field: apocryphally, p erdos was once persuaded by a close phriend
to quit dope for a month
punkman: from
the department-of-mailing-lists-I-didn't-read-but-saved-it-anyway-because-maybe-sometime:
http://dpaste.com/16WQEP7 Organizing
the World's Delusions
trinque: though I would've otherwise said
the same
trinque: ^
this I
think is just focus
kakobrekla: i enjoyed
the subjective
time dilation experience
mircea_popescu: What you don't see is
that
this logic isn't even self-justifying, it is self-destructing. Not "since I have sexual problems, I wish I had
the drug"; but, "since I wish I had
the drug, I have sexual problems." Since I wish I had
the drug,
two hours have already gone by. I'm staying in
tonight.
mircea_popescu: rdis,
then I would know how
to pilot it. If such a drug existed,
then my sexual problems would all disappear.
mircea_popescu: Because picturing yourself exerting power is fantasy; imagining yourself as victim is easy. Which is why you brought
this all up. You spend a lot of your waking life creating elaborate fantasies of power
that contain
their own self-justifying logic, and
those fantasies are so numerous
that added
together
they actually
take up a real portion of your day. A portion you're not spending on something else. If I saw a
Ta
trinque: it would seem
that most lives *vastly* underutilize
the capabilities of
the brain, worse even
than
the mythical 10% figure
trinque: it was
the degree of attention being paid
to it
trinque: yeah,
the world was exactly as it is
trinque: ascii_field: or perhaps when it's
time
to quiet
the neuroses and ponder
the structure of DNA, LSD
ascii_field: (things
that no one would do if he had half an alternative other
than
the broomstick)
ascii_field: and
the fiction about 'dysfunction' is quite likely
the same order of fiction as with psych meds
mircea_popescu: which
takes us round circle
to viagra : yeah, i don't
take it either. because i happen
to be satisfied with
the sex. because
the women i fuck rock. because etc.
mircea_popescu: stop
throwing
the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "productivity enhancing software",
the surefire halmark of people who aren't productive and don't wish
to be.
ascii_field: now,
the infestation of genuinely subpar
tools feeds into it.
ascii_field: btw
the 'poor dancer is hindered by his own arse' dynamic is present in all walks of u.s. like, from shooting
to woodworking
ascii_field: 'you don't hit much but
twigs and brush, when you hosedown...'
mircea_popescu: what
they do is go empty magazine after magazine in
the worship of "look see, even
THIS great gun can't hit anyone".
mircea_popescu: i
take it as a personal point of pride
that i've yet
to discharge a weapon and NOT HIT SOMETHING.
mircea_popescu: which is why "gun control" is even a
thing : gun owners are its biggest advocates.
ascii_field: this is entirely
true and a cursory familiarity with american sport shooting folks will confirm
mircea_popescu: he wants
to
take
the "spear
that will pierce any shield" and fashion it into a shield
that will stop any spear.
mircea_popescu: the secret hope of boi with stupid shit stuck on all sides of rifle IS NOT
that he can now go shoot people.
mircea_popescu: what
they want is
to be recognised BY OTHERS as, and
this is important :
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't
that
they want something.
they do not.
they pointedly not only wish not
to have it,
THEY WISH IT
TO NOT EXIST. because it scares
them like penis @ little girl.
ascii_field: as i said, most of
the
takers want 'world for nothing'
mircea_popescu: "more useless appearance of
the desired
thing for less work".
mircea_popescu: and no,
this is not how steroids work, either.
this is how you/people WANT
them
to work.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. <<
this is fundamentally how it doesn't work.
trinque: considering
the multiple placebo effect
threads, I would not be shocked
to find believing "I am about
to enter a hyper-aware state" is all
there is
to it
ascii_field: alternatively, let's
teach legless folk
to will
themselves new legs
ascii_field: (not really, because i would not wish
this on a friend. but you get
the idea)
ascii_field: i would like
to see how much attention mircea_popescu would pay if he NEVER got a full night of sleep
trinque: perhaps; I would not know. as with modafinil, would mircea_popescu say "yes,
this is called paying attention, you idiots"
ascii_field: and i realize
that most idiots want
to get a maxint from a zero
ascii_field: the purpose of dope in
this example is as a force multiplier.
trinque: and in fact
that associating
the state of mind with
the dope may be *truly* regressive
trinque: with a great deal of discipline I'm certain one can observe himself in
the same manner with no such substance.
mircea_popescu: fine, one would not refuse
to use a condom because it's not
their own cock!
trinque: one would not refused
to use a microsope because it is not merely his own eyes
trinque: the word merely would be useful
there
ascii_field: everybody who knowingly
takes anything is 'avoiding looking at
the world with not-having-taken-it eyes'
trinque: I have seen both, certainly. Chicks
that
take all kinds of substances such
that
they never have
to look at
their model of
the world with clear eyes
mircea_popescu: similarly, if you ask america
to vote, ( ) balance
the budget ; ( ) replay
the 90s, guess ?
mircea_popescu: or if you ask
tlp,
they're doing it
TO AVOID something like
this.
ascii_field: 'i figured out
that being me sux, i'd like
to be somebody else'
ascii_field: possibly
the folks who want
to 'regress
to 5yo' are going for something like
this ?
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 00:34:39; mircea_popescu: better model; always asks current ego
to die because current ego is a piece of shit.
trinque: I would accept
that in
the vast majority of uses it's regressive
mircea_popescu: or moreover for adults seeking
to relive 5yo-dom being a
tad regressive ?
mircea_popescu: not having access
to
the stuff of being ficve years old ?
trinque: "I am
the 3rd coming of Jesus H Christ" or whatever, even worse
trinque: jurov: your observation about yourself is not unlike experiences one might have on acid, in
the ballpark of "this entire system of ideas
that forms
the world as I know it is built of assertions accepted within
this universe simulation in
the mind" which might be an excellent argument for
the general population not having access
to
the stuff
mircea_popescu: "oh i've been raped". no, you haven't, you were whoring out. "but nobody asked me" yeah,
they did. "i'm just here for
the free food" well... enjoy
the extra protein. actually natural.
mircea_popescu: no but looky,
there's fifty people eating in a free fast food joint, except
the rule is
that when
the music stops
the cook comes out and picks a patron
to suck his cock.
mircea_popescu: "This is
the whole gimmick of media, not polar but
triangular, right, left, middle, mobilizing an army of assonauts
to feel strongly enough about something
that
they don't do anything."
mircea_popescu: it's really very much an open
topic, which is why
the "evidence based" court's bitch goes all in for "mri scans!"
trinque: that
thoughts arise,
then are selected, and so on
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 19:50:44; mircea_popescu: you have
to understand ontogenesis is a
two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes
the spaces between what will be your fingers.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i am speaking of
those who did not buy
mircea_popescu: ascii_field imo
they answered alright. nature works in
the following way :
the punishment is
the deed.
those people who bought into it got
their life ruined.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes, but
the problem with
the evidentiary based standard is
that, well,
the matrix.
this is one of
the biggest problems for young children, incidentally. what
the fuck is going on!
adlai: ascii_field:
the
telegraph decentralizes
the market for rate limiting, rather
than requiring baroque schemes of varying arbitrarity
ascii_field: it was a grotesque crime for which - afaik - no one was made
to answer.
ascii_field: does mircea_popescu recall
the 'repressed memory'
trials in usa ?
adlai: trinque: not criticising deedbot-, saying
that it's
the answer
to mircea_popescu's question