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mircea_popescu: unintentional, but yes.
mircea_popescu: wow dub ty for saving the day
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> looks like bitcoin-central is goxed << hi davout
mircea_popescu: hehe not such a bad idea
mircea_popescu: tcp ios kinda complicated...
mircea_popescu: we don't use windows or macos
mircea_popescu: still, we use http and tcp/ip
mircea_popescu: no argument.
mircea_popescu: in principle a good client logs.
mircea_popescu: yes, if they want to store data they;ll need a filesystem or some other similar implement
mircea_popescu: well w/e they wish to use
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller they can call it once a month
mircea_popescu: bbet's interface is very simple by design, but your thing would be sort-of like the rpc call of all time
mircea_popescu: and the fact that you will need a very solid api or nobody will mm it.
mircea_popescu: Bunnyh he wants accts i thought
mircea_popescu: or an hour prior or something like that
mircea_popescu: since last stat.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter invest in zh's darling, i forget what it was called.
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna do that may as well just make it the thing, let people trade shares.
mircea_popescu: honestly i dun see myself using it, sounds like a sort of bettrade w/e that thing was called, except with a perhaps very broken auto-mm tacked on
mircea_popescu: that may be a little expensive to make.
mircea_popescu: jd isn't a mega concurrency engine. ppl bet the house
mircea_popescu: even so ?
mircea_popescu: how do you time accounts ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise we'd just use timestamps
mircea_popescu: the blockchain exists in the first place because time isnt reliable.
mircea_popescu: or we
mircea_popescu: or, what the user making the tx said the time was
mircea_popescu: or, what the node that told us the tx said
mircea_popescu: in the best case is "when we heard the tx"
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: like say pool x could mine me before kako, and pool y could mine kako before me
mircea_popescu: (depending who mines the block the same exact tx can end up with diff timestamps)
mircea_popescu: mike_c the time value is iffy
mircea_popescu: well sure it is, bash/python/we you use
mircea_popescu: say both me and kako send in block 275000. who goes in first ?
mircea_popescu: moving on : how do you sort within a block ?
mircea_popescu: this will be a pain to run.
mircea_popescu: what do you do in that case ?
mircea_popescu: i just gave an example
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: what do you do ?
mircea_popescu: i now go to the forum and open a scam thread, saying you put the 10 btc
mircea_popescu: suppose i send 1 btc, ion the reps, and discover i didn't get 8 shares but .7 because someone put 10btc in 10 minutes before me.
mircea_popescu: then as long as the odds are 10:1 or less i am safe buying 10 btc each side, cheap shares
mircea_popescu: but if i know that a certain bet will reach say 200 btc total wagered
mircea_popescu: basically to extract value out of this scheme all you need to know is your avg volume
mircea_popescu: so any new bet is basically a landrush to buy the early shares ?
mircea_popescu: even if these could be within five minutes of each other ?
mircea_popescu: how do you split the 10.3 ?
mircea_popescu: now, the reps lose, obviously.
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: how many shares does this buy him ?
mircea_popescu: so now obama comes and dumps 10 btc on reps. cause he's hedging.
mircea_popescu: o o ok i see. i mixed the .3 and .7 aite
mircea_popescu: right ?
mircea_popescu: and .3 + .5 + .7 = 1.5 btc
mircea_popescu: aite. so dems side is now 3 (opresumably) + 3.5 + .95 shares
mircea_popescu: ok. now, i come and put 0.7 on dems. what's this do ?
mircea_popescu: so i get 5, say.
mircea_popescu: aite, so let's try it. since you're somehow decided it must be 0.1s for some reason, i put 0.5 on dems. what's that do ?
mircea_popescu: does your thing lift me up ?
mircea_popescu: bbv1 is neutral on thsi score. if someone buys the other side later it lifts you up
mircea_popescu: now we know it's the end of the world.
mircea_popescu: 5 ltc dispute
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352830.0 << check out the paperwork that went into a
mircea_popescu: why not pi.
mircea_popescu: e ?
mircea_popescu: we're trying to see how that'd go atm
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: (1st share 1 btc, 2nd share 1.3 btc etc ftr)
mircea_popescu: now he goes all taylor on it i bet
mircea_popescu: just a little numerical analysis
mircea_popescu: just guess the value of the integral, it won't kill you .not like it's a binding contract or anything
mircea_popescu: that was quick ;/
mircea_popescu: mike_c so guess dood. weren't you an engineer ?
mircea_popescu: guess why.
mircea_popescu: algorithmically generated order books aren't used irl
mircea_popescu: so if i spend 10 btc i get a number of shares you can't specify. wjhat happens next ?
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: all math is scam. so what's your x on my 10 btc ?
mircea_popescu: scam.
mircea_popescu: "x" ?
mircea_popescu: i got 10 btc on the dems right here. i send it to your site. what happens ?
mircea_popescu: wait, what ?
mircea_popescu: i think irl bitbet seeds more like .3 .7 bu anyway
mircea_popescu: ok
mircea_popescu: so what do i do now ?
mircea_popescu: it dun matter what the bet is.
mircea_popescu: that aside
mircea_popescu: nah, one's enough for this
mircea_popescu: what now ?
mircea_popescu: so let's run through this. bet is gribble's coin toss comes out heads.
mircea_popescu: we need a better format.
mircea_popescu: pdfs need to die already
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i like this guy.
mircea_popescu: mike_c did the academia folks invent something again ?
mircea_popescu: this was "news" in 200 bc too. i dunno why it's so counterintuitive
mircea_popescu: i don't think there's possible substitution for reputation generally.