mircea_popescu: and in this context there exists a correctness, "what do we make the rail out of ?" "well, minimum mass of functional steam engine is 1 ton, so i guess something rigid enough ; but also can't be friable must be ductile.

mircea_popescu: that's it. it exists BECAUSE you could add a rail to a steam engine. it doesn't exist TO anything, for all anyone cares it could be to go to the moon or washington as well as better circle the wagons or hunt mountain goats.

mircea_popescu: eh, that's not contemplated. your objection is like saying "bitcoin is not the solution because my hairdresser doens't take it".

mircea_popescu: i don't see much of a problem.

mircea_popescu: i don't care what comes out of it. just as long as the process is correct, come what may will be fine.

mircea_popescu: there isn't a purpose, how hard is this to grok ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can try and push the conversation in your "the purpose is X" scheme all you want ; it won't go there, because, again, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-02#1494929 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: heck, bitbet didn't keep logs. confiscate all you want. was it a timely enough confiscation ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: actually, i don't think our scheme necessarily allows to know WHICH it was even if you confiscate them all.

mircea_popescu: for it to be a point it'd have to be constructed out of things that may exist in the same sentence, which it isn't.

mircea_popescu: stop mixing shit against entropy flow. you don't give the first of a flying fuck about the number 3. you're wrtiting code, it may not contain magic numbers.

mircea_popescu: ie, can't wot.

mircea_popescu: eating also "doesn't solve the problem".

mircea_popescu: the fact that the ipad as such doesn't exist and never worked

mircea_popescu: let's try a comparison, to clear this up. so : capacitive display, as seen in ipad, is inherently cool. the capacitive display would be the "can't phyisically identify box running server".

mircea_popescu: EVEN in the "look but don't touch" version displayed. ye ken ?

mircea_popescu: tor never worked, but THE "we don't know which physical object maps to the logical object called <this server>" BIT did!

mircea_popescu: point remains : the "we don't know which physical object maps to the logical object called <this server>" bit worked, even in the "look but don't touch" version displayed by tor. in fact - it was the bait in that trap.

mircea_popescu: pretense isn't the problem here.

mircea_popescu: you can't convict without body BECAUSE the "this hammer points at you, mr alf" is a sham ; and known as such, and for a long time.

mircea_popescu: there isn't much in common between computer and hammer.

mircea_popescu: there's no "you need some derps across town to add your own 2+2" ; but instead "from the fact that you added 2+2 eve can't discern where the fuck you did it"

mircea_popescu: to have a fork obama can't confiscate ? yes.

mircea_popescu: here, i don't know this to be the case, moreover i suspect otherwise.

mircea_popescu: i am in general more than happy to go into "don't interrupt - mistake" mode, whenever i know this to be the case.

mircea_popescu: so, strategically, we (as in, humans, people, we) are confronted with an adversary (ie, socialist state, usg, aliens, the devil incarnate, pure evil, etc) that predicates its relevancy upon targeted computing denial (see http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ ; and also http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/ re the ddos "we won't fix" and so on ) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: at the other end of the spectrum, it can just be open bash and well, don't take code from people you don't trust.

mircea_popescu: no i know, it's not on you ; just, the matter has to be discuss't.

mircea_popescu: yeah but we don't have that cheat as of yet

mircea_popescu: anyway. uci is not gossipd. there is a good reason to implement gossipd OVER uci, but on the uci layer the thing shouldn't be concerned with this kind of security i don't thinl

mircea_popescu: it wouldn't necessarily be over irc, though irc IS rather resilient and we get the benefit of bootstrapping a major irc network if we bake it in

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just the guy's private history. bulgaria wouldn't extradite him a few years ago ; before that was wounded in daghestan but survived etc.

mircea_popescu: lol yeah, didn't mean for qntra. just mentioned it because it seems to me the "isis" figthers were ru special forces. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/since-what-you-do-all-day-is-jack-off-anyway/#comment-93555 << in other antique trilema lulz, check out what people didn't make a bitcoin for.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no it wouldn't.

mircea_popescu: jurov it's not just that it's "glass with borax in it", much like steel isn't just "iron with carbon in it"

mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.

mircea_popescu: t. it is not only, and not principally, and arguably barely at all the sin of inept us management that it drives the productive forces of its slave empire into dead ends.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494309 << no because couldn't be transported and also minimum wage. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: there's nothing the us can make that the thirld world needs and couldn't make. kinda why we're here in the first place, libertards ruined "the civilised world".

mircea_popescu: well i wasn't about to teach you how to cat, curl and sed was i.

mircea_popescu: there's a humongo strategic difference between "no alternative exists" and "we don't like the alternative as it contradicts our ideology". bitcoin is the ur-example of how to drive this through.

mircea_popescu: we can't be spammed. web-anything "social media" or whatever you call the bullshit - can. this advantage must be a) kept sharp and b) driven through.

mircea_popescu: (note also you have no proof it was me! because the signature doesn't check out!)

mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, i don't always care. i like nano when it's a simple matter of "i know what i'm looking for, but approximately, so it's easier to ctrl-w and look at context than to grep string"

mircea_popescu: doing some research in the bowels of trilema i fell upon http://trilema.com/2014/the-internet-race-gap/ "So to sum up : the average number of black people on the Internet is, on average, about 15% lower than the average numer of black people on the Internet as far as we can see - and it's probably even worse as far as we can't see."

mircea_popescu: if you DID have it, you wouldn't sell the 3620. because great.

mircea_popescu: phf yeah, but then he wouldn't have it anymore.

mircea_popescu: phf you laugh at him all you want, but his mental process is sensible, or at least common. if you think about it, why exactly is it that most wives aren't being turned out as we speak ?

mircea_popescu: and as a general fucking principle : make girlfriends, yo, don't figure out how to all be buttbudies.

mircea_popescu: yes, but you're mixing things. (the item) is not = (the item) + (transport service for the item). you can't want "the item" to net you top dollars through sometyhing that's not the item.

mircea_popescu: how do you know what things would or wouldn't!

mircea_popescu: "free on board". come pick it up ; if you don't we throw it in the water.