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cazalla_: punkman, i'm finding it good and i'm on pace
to actually finish it, but figured seeing i know little, might be best
to ask he if what im learning has any value
BingoBoingo: Even sticks
to actual python 2 and not heretical 3
cazalla_: yeah
that guy, i actually bought a hard copy of
the book
though, been working on in it 1-2 hours each evening,
trying
to make a Legend of
the Red Dragon mud
type game meets bitcoin
ascii_field: cazalla_: i'm entirely unfamiliar with
this author
cazalla_: asciilifeform, any idea if zed shaw knows his stuff? working
through his learn python
the hard way book past month or so, recommend any books once i'm done with
this one (or anyone else for
that matter)
shinohai: I guess
this place isn't for everyone, :/
shinohai: Twice in one day
tho ... puritans.
shinohai: First
time I had seen
that happen, but I've only been here since June.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Are you going
to ragequit
the channel
too?
assbot: Okay, so I
think I've figured out 'Dr' Craig White's end game in pretending
to be Satoshi. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/21SJxO4 )
BingoBoingo: "She
told me
that her
team did a lot of collaborative work in
this lab, and she didn't need someone who was going
to 'eat more
than
their fair share of
the pizza, if you know what I mean.' "
BingoBoingo: Damn, It's like people forget about Andreas whose ghost supports
this
thing.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2014 02:20:21;
TimSwanson:
That's not how debates work
kakobrekla: ftr 'gettrust'
takes second argument optionally
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: [malleability] 'This is a major problem, principally driven by
the deliberately broken state of
the FOSS' << btw it affects pgp (via
the braindamaged pkcs1.5)
to same extent
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'Not only are
they part of
the
transaction, not only are
they an integral part of
the
transaction :
they are
the only actually needed part. What makes a
transaction a
transaction is
the signature, nothing else. Everything else is like marketing : contributes
to costs, not
to revenue.' << here i will note
that, if bitcoin used rsa sigs,
the
tx and
the signature could be literally one and
the same
thing
ascii_field always has, in back of head, suspicion
that 'usg' is catastrophically misnamed, considering
that
the communicable disease in question goes back
to at least voltaire
mircea_popescu: in me eyes
tis entirely passive. does what "teh people" "need".
ascii_field: neh it's rather more like
the original aids victim
ascii_field: i
thought it was 'any degree of scumhood is virtuous when it's in
the service of usg, lie, cheat, kill, whatever'
mircea_popescu: life is
the foremost value, yo! notwithstanding
that
the delusion of "freedom from consequence" is
the fundamental corner stone of "creativity" as understood on
the internets.
shinohai: Well I never would have guessed
two individuals would get
their panties in a bunch in one day.
mircea_popescu: try screaming "YOU MAKE EXCELLENT PIE" at
the
top of your lungs @woman, see if she
takes it as a compliment.
mircea_popescu: in fairness,
the emotional angle is really hard
to get past. which is why
the
thing's so effective in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: well, people gotta form
their own opinions on
things neh.
mircea_popescu: all
these people with
the higher moral ground calling peeps names and shit.
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: I'm
trying
to divine if you are just
trolling or dead serious.
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: what on earth are you up
to?
ascii_field: ;;later
tell mod6
trb www still shows non-v patches ?!
mircea_popescu: "ltv" being one of
the lulziest snakeoil products
the marketing scambunch has been pushing down
the
throats of public cos
mircea_popescu: consider
this blog post (
http://blog.kissmetrics.com/how-to-calculate-lifetime-value/) from KISS metrics, a company whose aim is
to “help you make smarter business decisions.” Not only do
they include a version of
the model
that specifically ignores future costs, but also
they recommend
taking an average of
three different results,
two of which are clearly flawed.
This voodoo-math has no place as part of a multi-mi
mircea_popescu: “purchased.” If you have organic customers,
they shouldn’t be included in
the spend calculus.
They would have arrived regardless of spend. Also, many people discount “revenues” rather
than marginal cash contribution. It is critical
to bundle all future variable costs of supporting
the customer in order
to fairly estimate
the future contribution. As an example of
the sloppiness
that exists around
the formula,
mircea_popescu: "The Model is Confused and Misused. Frequently
the same group
that is arguing for more spending is
the same one
that “owns”
the LTV calculation. (This is a mistake – finance should monitor LTV). As a result, it is not uncommon for one
to see shortcuts
taken
that allow for greater freedom. As an example, marketers often divide spend by
total customers
to calculate SAC rather
than just
those customers
that were
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> aha. now
try 500m which is what 'snipe' means in
the civilized world <<
This is job for
the other (Mosin) Nagant
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> what was
the name of
the
treason guy << midnightmagic
ascii_field: thestringpuller: in
the same sense as i'm afraid
to
thermonuke davos
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting
the physical murder of
the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and
there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here.
mircea_popescu: shinohai in fairness, wouldn't by any stretch be
the first person we/i've driven
to excuse
themselves.
ascii_field: because - largely - cn never came in and repossessed
the whores & coke
thestringpuller: because ethereum is revolutionary and
thus bitcoin needs
to be moar like it
mircea_popescu: except
this approach handed
their country
to china on a silver plate.
ascii_field: moar mechanical complexity, more room (or so
they hope) for mechanized fraud
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 17:57:45; HeySteve: well, I wash my hands of
this place
ascii_field: in
the specific sense of 'goldmansachsization'
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 18:02:24; mircea_popescu: incidentally, why do people wish
to add semantic content
to bitcoin ?
ascii_field: aha. now
try 500m which is what 'snipe' means in
the civilized world
ascii_field: thestringpuller: if you live in usa you are not far from some place where you can rent a kalash and
try 'snipe' at 100 metres into a plate
mircea_popescu: so no more unix philosophy, just... everything expands
to read mail ?
ascii_field: same reason why add a 2kg
telescope
to kalash ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, why do people wish
to add semantic content
to bitcoin ?
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 23-10-2015 14:24:36; HeySteve: as for
the rest, mircea_popescu, you may dismiss everything
that isn't Bitcoin 0.5 as a scam but I do not
take
this view without evidence
assbot: You rated user heysteve on 25-Oct-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied
these additional notes: Fairer sex connoisseur.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i've really not spent so much
time looking into it, gb-and-a-half piddle from 10s of ips.
mircea_popescu: how exactly is
the world supposed
to work without "psychopaths". so asshole goes and does something outright evil, and we all what, chant
to purge his "sw" out of bitcoin ? hold hands ?
ascii_field: HeySteve: don't let
the door hit you on
the arse
mircea_popescu: i guess yet another field where
the private sector has
the public sector whupped.
mircea_popescu: in also lulzy news,
the maryland-based righteous ddosing of
trilema earlier was kinda weak and ineffectual, when compared
to
the standard angry economics driven ddosen we've seen over
the years.