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Bingoboingo: Sure ben_vulpes et al would prolly shit on the coffee, but seriously not bad stuff for the middle west.
Bingoboingo: That an serious talk now. Throw a dollar in the basket to assuage your guilt about all the coffee you can drink in an hour? What beats that.
Bingoboingo: Yeah, but even going to 3-5 storytime sessions a week leaves me far more useful time in the day than a bottle does. That's really gotta be what scares Coindesk et al about qntra year 2.
nubbins`: sometimes one needs to drink all the booze
Bingoboingo realized he might have a problem when started leaving friends at the bar to chill with bums in the gutter.
nubbins`: "buddy, you look the way i feel"
nubbins`: we're walking around the town one day, the worst type of stinky rotten bum comes up to him
nubbins`: i got a friend who's been through some times
Bingoboingo: What can I say. When I was a kid I wanted to grow up to be the kinda man who drank whiskey and I grew up to be the kind of man who drank whiskey.
Bingoboingo actually found the "swoleacceptance" thing as an easy whey to farm reddit karma for the idiogeneering.
Bingoboingo: nubbins`: Nah, at last not any more than any recovering alcoholic how last time on a dating site chose the "used up" body type at 24
Bingoboingo back in the day used to like blunts and spiffs
assbot: Tales from 35,000ft: Behind the Beetus Beast : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOKqB6 )
Bingoboingo: Really I thing -w mode stego should aspire to https://archive.is/plA29
white: ok thanks
Bingoboingo: white: If he's not on nao he'll usually be on in the next few hours
nubbins`: blunts are this whole other thing
mircea_popescu: that other time when you called blunts "jazz cigarettes"
nubbins`: that time i paid an average of 0.5 btc per jazz cigarette, for example
nubbins`: mircea_popescu this is true
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin event horizon is such that anyone who buys is a chump on a long enough timeline.
nubbins`: maybe i'm the chump tho. we will see
nubbins`: some chump sold the newspaper to me for 0.25 btc
nubbins`: of note, there's a copy of the genesis block times in there
nubbins`: do people wear gloves to milk?
mircea_popescu: shit on the poor. it's a program.
Bingoboingo: wollen growths, but they had to be painful."
Bingoboingo: Grammarizer needs to aspire to creating stego prose leik: "Bob's feet were a horror. Advanced stages of gout had swollen his feet which were covered in sores, growths, and hard scaly patches. I know this because Bob's shoes were improvised flip flops, clearly hand made. I can only imagine normal shoes don't come in sizes that would fit over the swollen sacs of disease that passed for his feet. I'm not sure how he walked on these s
mircea_popescu: that it makes life impossible for the lesser people, who still depend on being able to chat without access to proper tools.
asciilifeform: what's the point of the word salad when you have properly ciphered bits
mircea_popescu: and i expect gossipd to be undistinguishable for the phillipino/redditarded eye from current b-a log.
mircea_popescu: i don't plan to use irc forever.
asciilifeform: why even use a legacy system like irc then
mircea_popescu: step 1 : build perfect radsuit. step 2 : glass the place.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so that it drowns out "conversation", ie, any plain channel stuff.
asciilifeform: can somebody (preferably mircea_popescu, whose idea this was) describe - roughly - the point of this ?
PeterL: you don't have to look at it, just copy the file of text and point the program at it
asciilifeform: whole point is to blur the distinction between 'human text' and pgpgram, no ?
PeterL: is it so much worse than a pgpgram output?
asciilifeform: (which presumably was the point of the proposal - make the enemy expend human labour to distinguish pgpgrams, rather than the present condition of being able to do so mechanically)
asciilifeform: i for one am not looking forward to ~ever~ having to mentally filter this diarrhea out of conversation
mircea_popescu: yeah that'd never work.
asciilifeform: for the record, imho this is a disastrously bad idea
PeterL: would just require a couple more lines of code when opening the wordlist file
PeterL: could be easy enough to specify a document and have it remove duplicates to generate a word list
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 03:00:57; mircea_popescu: that is the idea, yes. but the other idea is that it's not safe to use more than a few hundred words because natural language usage does not normally distribute.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1342638 << the solution to this is to use a corpus distilled from your own logz ☝︎
asciilifeform: use however you like, but any public agreement re: precisely what to do kills the whole point of stego
PeterL: use the resulting words as first words in lines of a poem?
asciilifeform: and it grates on the nerves, even. esp. if you were on usenet in the late '90s and suffered through the 'hipcrime' crud
asciilifeform: i confess that i still don't see the point of the exercise:
mircea_popescu: yeah. this is a topic for study, it's not even clear more grammar-ness is a good thing.
mircea_popescu: a grammarizer might help put the comma in better, but yeah.
PeterL: two lines each for the same message, but with different lists
PeterL: Now rob circle rib sew south wind bit park you, welt chomp swing through. Hag bounce hack ha
PeterL: mircea_popescu: it actually looks better when i use the short list i pulled out of my head, simple.dict, rather than the full list
mircea_popescu: sounds exactly like what teh nsa'd do.
PeterL: the one problem i am still trying to fix is that it seems to ignore using a specified dictionary and always uses whatever defalt is in the config , I think i might have something wrong in the python logic
PeterL: but whoever decrypts it must then use the exact same list file
PeterL: ok, renamed and now it shows (if you want to run this, I think you need to make it .py again)
mircea_popescu: that is the idea, yes. but the other idea is that it's not safe to use more than a few hundred words because natural language usage does not normally distribute. ☟︎
PeterL: hmm, i'll try to fix that, just a sec
PeterL: that could certainly use attention, the idea is to have several lists to choose from
mircea_popescu: yeah the word list.
assbot: Why donors demand immediate elections after unrest in developing countries - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdSzjZ )
PeterL: oh, the word list?
mircea_popescu: PeterL that's a miserable list.
mircea_popescu: oh, the fishwrap got a spin to contribute ?
assbot: A surprising number of Americans endorse violence against the government. Here’s why. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOGv7h )
assbot: Change default block priority size to 0 by morcos · Pull Request #7022 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOGr7w )
PeterL: and tell me how horrible it is?
PeterL: it would be nice if someone familliar with python could take a look at it?
assbot: The PGP -w mode on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PUEQz6 )
PeterL: so I was playing with the idea of http://trilema.com/2015/the-pgp-w-mode/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: one of you folks is gonna have to do this, y'know !!
asciilifeform: http://www.josuttis.com/cppcode/allocator.html << src from the b00k where i even saw this
asciilifeform: ^ more to the point
asciilifeform: (fragging in trb)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/4795/C-Standard-Allocator-An-Introduction-and-Implement << possibly relevant to the mega-pr0bl3m
Bingoboingo: One of these days Qntra is going to have to find an editor which can Engligh.
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for birdman from 3 to 5 with note: many years in my meat-wot; fellow Eulorian; greatest gatherer
mircea_popescu: "MIT's hostile actions towards Bitcoin doesn't by any means stop there" << ungrammar
Bingoboingo: * asciilifeform did not actually know how far gone the mit thing were << Kinda why Qntra research requires not just wallowing with the eagles, but wallowing with pigs as well
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mod6 from 2 to 3 with note: fellow Eulorian; did some crafting for me
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for diana_coman from 1 to 2 with note: fellow Eulorian; gatherer of groceries, and builder of bots
asciilifeform: oatman's business card fell out when i opened the thing. which is a new sp4mz0r record in my personal memory.
asciilifeform: but somehow it is difficult to imagine this appearing in a dusty secondhand b00k sh0p near you.
asciilifeform: it would be quite interesting to read a version of this book with the sign bit flipped
asciilifeform: from the lulzy old b00k of the day/week/epoch club: 'The Art of Executive Protection' ( R.L. Oatman & Associates, Inc.)
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 23:22:38; gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342541 <<< /me wonders what happened to mats as well. ☝︎
asciilifeform: interestingly, there does not appear to be ANY record of them having existed, on the whole net.
asciilifeform: ^ i recall the ads in 'scientific american' re: same. anybody ?
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ben_vulpes: 'clever' fucking developers and their miserable abstraction naming schemes
ben_vulpes: laird pete_dushenski chased him off with the +1 blog of intimidation
asciilifeform ventures to guess that mats finally got that long-coveted job at his local kitten recycling plant.
gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know ☟︎
ben_vulpes: well no thats why you eat the mats when you find them
asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes & co. are drawing lots for the pots now ?!