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nubbins`: you'd have had better luck giving
the eulora flyers
to 20yearohio and
the bitcoin posters pasted up in b.a
mircea_popescu: dja know enough about psychology
to see what
this all is or notrly ?
mircea_popescu: not
that nubbins is in
the poster printing business and in
the self-loathing mental space, so he
thinks posters are a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: and in general...
the point here is
that argentines are retarded, in a very palpable, amply demonstrable sense.
mircea_popescu: buenos aires, a
thing worth 30x
that many inhabitants, has no dedicated ad paper, and never detectably had.
the
thoroughput is negligible, as in not even 0.001 per capita.
mircea_popescu: some other interesting datapoints : back in
the 90s, cluj, a 400k ish inhabitant city, had
three dedicated ad papers, printed weekly.
together ~200 pages, for a yearly
thoroughput in
the 1mn ads range. so like 2.5 per capita.
nubbins`: be sure
to
tape all 4 sides so
they're harder
to rip down
mircea_popescu: nubbins` wouldja stop
trying
to salvage
the "i'm derpy from derpland and i know of
things i've never seen because
totallies" ? it's dead.
nubbins`: when you put it like
that, it makes more sense
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 19:38:05; mircea_popescu: anyway,
to
the more general point here : i'm
the only entity
that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others
try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like
this", because
the point isn't for me
to get something done,
the point is for me
to change
the way
things are done in
the first place.
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> (another
tricky bit is
that one of
the
things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and
this is difficult
to monitor without on-site chair) << not many other worker bees i came across in
the
trenches realized
this,
to
their detriment
jurov: incl. wiping
the ass?
funkenstein_: i
thought every
time you did anything which valued a fiat
token, no matter what, it benefitted
the counterfeitters
thereof
BingoBoingo: Cambodia seems like interesting place
to consider relocation. May be a stalinist hell hole, but doesn't seems like
that bad of one.
ascii_field: 'A C++ module
that generates maps procedurally is required for Eulora. In
this first iteration,
the idea of a "map" reduces
to "a folded corridor 3 x 3 units in square section". Folding means
that
the corridor may curve however you please (provided it's continuous, contains no volumes smaller
than 3x3 units and no inclines over 10%) and run into itself (not necessarily at right angles).' <<
this is in SWAG !!!
ascii_field: to suggest in
the 2nd [censored] conference.'
ascii_field: 'Which makes me suspicious, and I have no evidence, just an opinion
that
there seems
to be a powerful force behind
these guys like btcdrak, petertodd, etc., like perhaps
that jdillon guy, who seems
to be directing
their actions. If you read some old leaks of jdillon chat with ptodd you can see
that all/most of
the stuff
they are now publicly pushing were suggested by him, including
the flexicap nonsense which gmax
tried
mircea_popescu: this is in fact how you know
that you're part of
the solution.
mircea_popescu: for as long as you're part of
the solution, it
taking a while is no detriment.
ascii_field cannot deny
that sufficiently many straws will break camel's back. but
this might
take a while.
mircea_popescu: and nobody knows which gnats killed
the elephant. "it was just meant
to be".
mircea_popescu: they all add
together and
then one day, suddenly,
the "old way of life" is an impossibility.
mircea_popescu: every shot policeman, every dollar embezzled, witheld from
the irs, every subpar item delivered
to
the usg, everything.
ascii_field not convinced
that
the gnats killed
the elephant
ascii_field: this looks quite like folks who explained
their gold/watches/dollars bootleg ops in moscow as 'help sink
the stinking su faster !111'
mircea_popescu: everytime some derp is "offended" at who knows what offensiveness yet his offense rings impotent,
the system dies a little.
ascii_field: eh
there remain many megatonnes of fat
to be
trimmed from plebes like asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , et al before
the usg ruling caste bleeds
mircea_popescu: every
time you
take a 19yo
that'd have made someone a great wife and you make her a great whore,
the system bleeds a little.
mircea_popescu: every
time you leave
the us, and continue
to extract dollars from
the us which however
the usg can't
tax, and spend
them in kirgiztan, but so
the kirgiztan also cant'
tax, both bleed a little.
mircea_popescu: every
time i
talk
to one of my chinese bankers here, moving some dollar bits against peso bits, both
the argentine government and
the us government bleed a little.
ascii_field: (or, in other words, what precisely is it
that said system could not afford
to lose ?)
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2015 19:43:10; mircea_popescu: well, in order for
the system
to collapse it must be made
to bleed.
mircea_popescu: in order for it
to bleed ions need
to go against gradient.
mircea_popescu: well, in order for
the system
to collapse it must be made
to bleed.
☟︎ ascii_field: 'yer meat and you stay in
this here fence'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
the difference between "not work for competition" and "capital control" is inexistent -
the us is a centrally controlled economy just like
the su. and so,
the soviets couldn't leave because "the state invested in
their education", right ?
ascii_field: well i'd happily move if i were 1337 enough
to
take
the gradient, rather
than BE
the fuel
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ascii_field by
the
time
that's done, my dear alf, everyone who's still asleep ain't never waking up again.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is why you gotta move. always go against
the gradients/.
ascii_field: which is why i say 'mircea_popescu wake me up plz when you've
transmuted
the x
to a y'
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to
the more general point here : i'm
the only entity
that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others
try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like
this", because
the point isn't for me
to get something done,
the point is for me
to change
the way
things are done in
the first place.
☟︎ ascii_field: the cheapness of
turkeys/whores/petro/etc in shitholistans is a ~natural resource~, like any other
thermodynamic gradient. and you don't get
to ride
the gradient just by asking, just like a random schmuck doesn't get
to ride soviet plutonium just for asking.
ascii_field: (omfg
they might
take
their bezzle dollars and bid up
the cost of
turkeys in shitholistan where we need'em cheap)
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> shinohai: afaik
the old corpse is just
that - mit is
the new phoundation <<< seems
that way.
ascii_field: but
the most basic
thing, afaik, is simple capital control
ascii_field: (another
tricky bit is
that one of
the
things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and
this is difficult
to monitor without on-site chair)
ascii_field: i could speculate re: ~why~ (short version: it's what usa has instead of a berlin wall - otherwise mass exodus of programmers etc.
to cheapo banana republics)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: possibly
the hidden gotcha is
that internet hasn't been invented yet on my planet. (i.e. folks offering
the sort of work
that i do, demand at least occasional physical chair parade)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field again : i expect
that all arguments work both sides for me and for me only. you, you don't need meatwot can go wherever.
the argentine derp, can not use internet, may not leave country.
jurov: well. so you want artist
that is both not an idiot and reads pole pulp
mircea_popescu: <jurov> meeting
them in flesh should overcome
their problems with unusuallness or whatevs << not from experience. meeting idiots in
the flesh doesn't make
them less idiotic, just puts
them in a better position
to waste your
time.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> but i'll be
the first
to say
that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a! << you mean webwork. what else ?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> perhaps
they have a
trade publication where work is offered <<< you're
thinking europe.
think kirgizstan.
mircea_popescu: particularly because how dares
this asshole
to discern between useful and useless in
the vast world full of possibilities which shouldn't be discriminated against or someshit.
mircea_popescu: jurov> anyway. since bsas is million metropol,
there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate <<< yes but apparently
they go in
there
thought
the window not
the door ; cant read in any case and anyway -
too busy doing nothing
to do soemthing useful
ascii_field also recalls
the rental agency with btc private keys on placards
thread
mircea_popescu: i understand "we"'d "all" love
to be excused from
the failures list, but
that's not how it works.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare << besides
the fucking point, really. i don't
think
they're not retarded. nevertheless,
to
the people who fail
to
take advantage of
this,
that failure is just another added failure.
jurov: actually now i remember he did not like any responsibility, like, gpg signing
the releases
ascii_field: but yeah,
this whole
thing is kinda replay of
the old 'soviet vs roman army'
thread, aha
ascii_field: well inspired by
the 'starve
to serve me'
thing
mircea_popescu: and none of
this is going
to be changed by discussing around
the bush.
ascii_field sometimes wonders if mircea_popescu does
the 'nail in a coffin and float'em down
the river as
test of faith'
thing also
mircea_popescu: he can starve
to serve me and
then i might consider him. before
that he can get fucked.
mircea_popescu: i won't. because i'm not spending money
that way, and i don't give a shit what
the needs of whatever art derp are.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling &
textures for
the Ender's Game movie << and
the eulora splashscreen was done by jason juta (ie,
the guy
that did half
the wizards of
the coast franchise). and yes, i could employ him (at his very reasonable rates)
to do
the whole
thing.
thestringpuller: We all laugh at MIT until
they create synths after
the great war.
ascii_field: shinohai: afaik
the old corpse is just
that - mit is
the new phoundation
adlai dashes off
to register ratt.it
ascii_field: betcha
there are first-class stories
to be
told.
ascii_field: adlai: next do we get
to learn about
the infighting of rats in
the new york sewer ?
kakobrekla: lol 'this assrape is
terrible!!' 'stfu you arent engaging positively!!'
adlai: the whole subreddit infighting is almost
too bizarre
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jurov: meeting
them in flesh should overcome
their problems with unusuallness or whatevs
ascii_field: but i'll be
the first
to say
that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a!
ascii_field: perhaps
they have a
trade publication where work is offered
ascii_field cannot answer
this, but will say
that he did not observe any 'help wanteds' for pr0gramm3rz in ba placards
jurov: anyway. since bsas is million metropol,
there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate