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jurov: they are deallocated. but malloc won't give it back to teh system
asciilifeform: i though the whole thing was about how jurov found a way to actually deallocate tx
shinohai: Also asciilifeform ty for Programmable Version Strings patch
jurov: well. the nastiest smell i felt was from std::map, so i suggest to approach that one next.
mircea_popescu: this is not a sprint. it's not even a marathon. the most important thing, by a large margin, is plox don't kill yourselves fighting with it. if anyone goes "i'll tend to my ulcer once i sorted out THIS thing", that someone's going to be remembered as naggum 2.
asciilifeform is plagued by the suspicion that we are trying to remove a 20kg metastatic tumour using.. acupuncture
mircea_popescu: i am firmly convinced that you can lose an entire team of engineers in there, permanently.
mircea_popescu: 98.x% of my contribution as far as fucking up my own tech dept goes to date has been variations of "STOP WITH THE DAMNED CODE" and such.
asciilifeform: 'The next idea was,that heap is sprinkled with permanently allocated blocks data causing inability for malloc to release the memory back to the OS. I went to try and allocate these separately... and boy does that rabbit hole go deep...' << ty jurov, i was actually in the middle of doing this, and now i don't have to, l0l !!
ben_vulpes: i've almost forgotten how painful it is. i can tell because i'm itching to muntz further.
asciilifeform: jurov: i've been bashing my head against the thing pretty actively, on and off, for >1yr now. so you're doing pretty well.
ben_vulpes: i've been there too, jurov
mircea_popescu: there's a reason nobody really touched the spaghetti monster in five years jurov and this'd be that reason.
jurov: (note i'm not employed. these were full days. and still far from result)
mircea_popescu: somehow this gargle thing works do. it does something. it drives the kids loco.
mircea_popescu: expectations of life and the world.
mircea_popescu: of advice. Met people with amazing experience. We felt we were in the nexus of entrepreneurship and innovation. And we probably were. [...] It was like our feet never touched the ground." and no, i don't think it would be http://38.media.tumblr.com/74c80afbbf82765c41d7beec32221d2f/tumblr_inline_n60qz3Ti3Q1r0ojkh.jpg as everyone in that pic is distinctly uncomfortable with the bunny suit they gotta wear to cater to my
assbot: A startup postmortem with a happy ending? ..in... | By the Beard of Zeus! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nvz17S )
mircea_popescu: http://fridriksson.tumblr.com/post/86584610871/a-startup-postmortem-with-a-happy-ending-in << perhaps a lulzy read for the forensic psychiatrist. what motivates some kids to live in a coffin for which they pay monthly the lifetime value of an average human being, while at the same time go all "We did the show and tell dance at Techcrunch Disrupt and DEMO. Networked at GigaOm RoadMap Con and YC Startup School. Got tons
asciilifeform: jurov: pretty interesting, i'll say more after i actually read the thing
mircea_popescu: ace from our friends at OneLogin, our burnrate wasn’t yet gone through the roof. But close.."
mircea_popescu: "From the comfort of the backyard cabin we moved to big city San Francisco and faced the totally hopeless situation of finding a place to live. We survived the first two weeks by renting office space at Tradeshift and sleeping on their couches at night. Not sure if they ever found that out. Finally we managed to get a 9 m2/97 sqft room through our Y-Combinator network. Rent $1,250. Dang! But since we had free office sp
jurov: shinohai: first read it. there are atrocities like CBlockIndex[400000] buried there.
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 21:26:52; jurov: mod6 asciilifeform: the turd http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347672 <<< will try when I arrive home. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but hey... "online advertising is an industree. because google "makes revenue" from it, which is to say some people recycle bezzle funds through there and everyone outside actually believes someone somewhere paid 5bn for ppc.
mircea_popescu: ming through PPC were converted at a lower rate than those originating through SEO. Even as we sharpened our targeting, experimented with messaging, and sought advice and consulting from more experienced parties, we found that paid channels just weren’t good enough to merit real focus."
assbot: [BTC-dev] Taming the mempool ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvyaEi )
jurov: mod6 asciilifeform: the turd http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html ☟︎
mircea_popescu: In our first year, that conviction drove our experiments with a series of other channels: PPC, partnerships, deals, guerilla type tactics, targeted mailings, craigslist posting tools, etc. Each experiment produced results inferior to those from SEO. The acquisition costs through those channels were significantly higher than what was allowable based on our revenue per customers. We also found that potential customers co
mircea_popescu: That worked brilliantly for us. We acquired users for practically nothing by using the content and site structure generated as a byproduct of our tutor acquisition. However, that success was also a trap. It convinced us that there had to be another channel that would perform for us at the level of SEO.
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Tutorspree didn’t scale because we were single channel dependent and that channel shifted on us radically and suddenly. SEO was baked into our model from the start, and it became increasingly important to the business as we grew and evolved. In our early days, and during Y Combinator, we didn’t have money to spend on acquisition. SEO was free so we focused on it and got good at it.
mircea_popescu: they don't want that part of bitcoin anymore. it's "blockchain technologies" now as far as reddit is concered, with spv mining, 0tx fees and hopefully increasing block subsidies in the future.
BingoBoingo: I'm surprised no one on the Luke-Jr derpity herp herp reddit thread pointed out you are supposed to wait for 6 confirmations
mircea_popescu: hola TomServo
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347622 << "High end" furnished apartements advertising themselve as such exist. Frenquently offered as "executive" option by "big tower" apartment renters. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: classmate in college held "fundraiser" in college after game show tricked her into taking pink and green SUV instead of money
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will decline to confirm
TomServo: I'm unable to get a matching sha256sum on 0.5.4-TEST2 [x86-64] [Latest] at thebitcoin.foundation - could anyone confirm?
ben_vulpes: well that's horrendous.
ben_vulpes: just to be sure i'm on the same page, this 'hang' eventually ends when the node completely processes the block?
ben_vulpes: oh this is an explanation for said?
ben_vulpes: well i'm yes? ing about the black hole.
asciilifeform: you connect to x, and at that time x swallows a block
asciilifeform: (also recall that the block verification dead-time happens ~at both ends~ of a connection)
asciilifeform: so at this point i'm pretty certain where 'black hole' comes from. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (where sockets are walked in order and serviced one at a time)
asciilifeform: this is a consequence of the idiot cooperative-multitask model used.
asciilifeform: because these do not take massive nonpreemptible block of time.
asciilifeform: when processing tx, it responds
ben_vulpes: other than listening for new blocks in steady state in my experience.
ben_vulpes: a trb node doing much of anything at all is pretty slow to respond to local api requests.
asciilifeform: a trb node in the 'blackhole' state is also extremely slow to respond to local api reqs
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski now you're thinking airbnb
asciilifeform: used by business travellers
mircea_popescu: loft apt hotel ? rented by the year ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude, seriously, the only time i rented in that part of the world, place came with complete everything. boxsprings.
pete_dushenski: american flats don't come with mattresses omfg << even if they did, no one would use them.
asciilifeform: have nothing to do with the leased property
asciilifeform: these are not repairs in the sane sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform insurance co does not give you new matressess because kid pissed it ; nor new shoes because dog chewed them.
pete_dushenski not looking forward to 'other repairs'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: landlord per se is not even always involved: everything is b/w tenant and insurance co.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski most of your "repairs" expenses when you have kids are sadly not of this kind.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 23:34:54; mircea_popescu: and if you want actual numbers, i just got a coupla girlies an apt. the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so. the monthly rent is 750. the first month, the washing machine went, and the owner replaced it. the next month, ac went (brother was that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so simple as all that, not really. what, you leave water running each week, landlord fixes ?
asciilifeform: getting it to actually happen - another matter
mircea_popescu: you ain't getting the landlord to do your repairs.
pete_dushenski: there's also nothing stopping tenants and landlords to signing 5-year leases
pete_dushenski: nt of capital), are retained regardless of the presence or absence of children
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 17:47:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347236 << the advantages of renting are mutually incompatible with the disadvantages of having kids. so...
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347412 << to the extent that the disadvantage of having kids is inflexibility and increased desire for a fixed locality, and that the advantage of renting is the ability to bounce from place to place with relatively low friction, then yes. but the other advantages of renting, namely financial (repair costs, downside of housing market, unproductive use of large amou ☝︎
pete_dushenski: the level of graphicness of that depiction makes me think it wasn't even in engligh
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: certainly not from there
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 17:35:45; asciilifeform: and can anybody recall where i got the notion that ottomans had headless races? (two prisoners run past swordsmen, heads chopped, hot iron 'thumb tacks' inserted in stumps, bodies keep running)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347371 << don't recall this from barber's 'the sultans', so that's out. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "my nagant nagana's better than your koichi katana!"
mircea_popescu: i was under the impression something else's discussed there.
mircea_popescu: nobody said the life on the farm ain't easier, prikoke.
mircea_popescu: "We could have and should have used the proceeds of the convertible note to get out from under Facebook’s thumb rather to invest further in the Facebook Platform."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: complicated. i have a human (non-gmail) mailbox that can't use mircea_popescu's algorithm (has to be able to receive from strangers) and it costs me perhaps 20min/day of manual spam filtration
mircea_popescu: "oh... there's no difference between that velociraptor that ate my arm, and that other velociraptor that ate my arm. wanna come play with my velociraptor ? no ? what do you mean no!"
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna bet that this schmuck is using gmail ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347332 << not quite the same. for weed, sellers just have to be 'licensed' ; whereas with drivers ed, sounds like dutch are putting the teacher in control and letting him separate the lemma from the palea so that he's not forced to bang mayo-gendered just because girl can't pay any other way ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "We exposed ourselves to a huge single point of failure called Facebook. I’ve ranted for years about how bad an idea it is for startups to be mobile-carrier dependent. In retrospect, there is no difference between Verizon Wireless and Facebook in this context."
pete_dushenski: ima contravexbash this ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 17:11:24; liquidassets: Pete, you're like a hero to me, please don't make me call you a punk again.
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 17:32:44; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347209 << 4th reich now owns moar europe than 3rd did
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347340 << 4th has the advantage of time. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice paste, for it includes the fee schedule huh.,
mircea_popescu: what was that group of idiots that died of hunger/ate each other in nevada ?
mircea_popescu: the fate of such folk, especially when unparented, is fundamentally speaking the
asciilifeform: shouldn't he be off shooting a sheriff somewhere, then ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, the latter habitually connects via ~my~ trb nodez
mircea_popescu: "I can even get it up to 2 or 3 block confirmation before the real network overtakes it with a longer chain. This is a risk accepted as a tradeoff by SPV clients, but not acceptable for full node clients which are expected to be secure on their own."
asciilifeform somehow missed this
assbot: luke-jr comments on Could a cartel of pool operators collude to 51%-attack the blockchain and/or change the protocol? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDI98l )
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fg0jw/could_a_cartel_of_pool_operators_collude_to/ctoavfi << from deep in the l0lminez
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy read for me. "what do you mean coming up with this complex theoretico-fantastico-nonsensical echaufadage did EXACTLY NOTHING ?!?!?!?!? but i thought thoughts alter reality! we rose the awareness to lilac levels!"
asciilifeform: ah in that sense yea