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trinque: definitely needs to be released on the site..
mircea_popescu goes to punch out baby seals
trinque: did output a usable product thereafter, and it's running on a debian, was built on a gentoo where it also ran.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 23:33:24; mircea_popescu: the moment we go off mod6 instructions and into alf instructions we suddenly need a rear admiral and five airline pilots.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349859 << /me recalls many hours spent on this exact back-and-forth and hack-and-saw over the summer ☝︎
mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-11-2015 04:08:01; mod6: trinque, et. al: The updated [version 99997 K] rotot v054-TEST2 (via `V') script: http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt
trinque: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-11-2015#1333964 << I had to dos2unix the script before running. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 22:53:29; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349611 << if pete_dushenski is interested in the trb affair, prolly best bang for his buck will be to learn ~why~ various things were done, rather than the agonizing particulars of ~how~
asciilifeform: somehow i thought that mod6 et al had something like a build system
mircea_popescu: no "as before" ; no "mine", none of the bs.
mircea_popescu: i have exactly nothing anywhere. the disk is fucking empty. this is deliberate.
mircea_popescu: so lettuce see if this thing can be made to work sanely once and for all.
asciilifeform did not write the build script on trb site
mircea_popescu: it is unconscionable, this.
mircea_popescu: i fixed that and went to eat. she returned with an hour within minutes, and i've been spending my time debugging your inept shit.
mircea_popescu: she returned with an error, after going very smoothly throughout everything mod6 made, hour and a half ago.
mircea_popescu: listen to me : TWO HOURS ago i gave a girl a task.
asciilifeform: incidentally do you have the toolchain built ?
mircea_popescu: i have to make this ?
asciilifeform: anyway there is also an 'ourlibs' dir where all of the built crud will go. empty at the start.
mircea_popescu: what could possibly be odd about it. i had to gather them by hand, which i did.
asciilifeform: distfiles has the tarballs
mircea_popescu: that it, is the distfiles loaded and i can proceed ?
mircea_popescu: im going to proceed on the grounds that i match that sha256 but srsly...
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: AGuide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )
mircea_popescu: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html script uses .gz throughout
mircea_popescu: they changed the archive.
mircea_popescu: listen we really gotta pick one of these and stick to it.
mircea_popescu: oh the manifest is sha512.
mircea_popescu: and this differs from fc512d3bfa6a39a60fee548775c97239271cf757587b8df7ed739c800844a819a359dca172be0e69ad7752753753139bf11f0813d650066d58386662fe32842d boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2 in the manifest
mircea_popescu: oddly the script i'm using as a guide to hack this together uses boost="http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost" curl -L "$boost/1.52.0/boost_1_52_0.tar.gz" \ for some reason, unlike in the other two cases.
mircea_popescu: can't fucking use the thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that style of presumption is 150% of what's wrong with foss.
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPY9X )
asciilifeform: which is presumably where everybody's been getting the turdz
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: AGuide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html also has a 1) hash 2) link to original vendor www
mircea_popescu: why the fuck should i need to ask questions AFTER i read it. how am i better off than one who didn't bother reaqding it, for my effort ? and how's this encouraging people to rtfm already.
assbot: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Static Builder for TheRealBitcoin. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COYtUn )
mircea_popescu: the rest of the discussion in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html being irrelevant
mircea_popescu: so basically, the entirety of work of interest here is : go to http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150627/stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz ; In 'distfiles', read 'MANIFEST' and place the tarballs found therein in said dir.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. the idea being : no reference!
assbot: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Static Builder for TheRealBitcoin. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COYtUn )
mircea_popescu: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html this ?
asciilifeform: (which, when i wrote this, everybody had going)
asciilifeform: it means the instructions from stator
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "6) in it, set up a stator dir, e.g., /home/luser/rotor/stator and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before." << what the fuck do you think this means ?
kakobrekla: ideally should be in the wiki imo
asciilifeform: incidentally this is something a fella like pete_dushenski, who is very much fond of writing reviews/expositions/etc. could make a dent in
asciilifeform: unfortunately this is described nowhere but the logz
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:21:34; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349611 << if pete_dushenski is interested in the trb affair, prolly best bang for his buck will be to learn ~why~ various things were done, rather than the agonizing particulars of ~how~ ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (30 to 100 percent depending on how you count)
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 18:32:56; mircea_popescu: well no, removed the entire religion thing, from the "must build cathedral" to "tithe" - speaking of which, you ever seen l'avare with de funes ? epic tithing scene in there - and on and on. review the literature of the 1800s, about half the drivel printed was various clerics opiniong self importantly on matters they thoroughly ignored.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349525 << usg's vaguely quakerist state religion eats considerably more than 10% ☝︎
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled the church, it just morphed into 'hjooooman rightz' crapolade
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 18:50:08; mircea_popescu: it's just that at some point some % of gdp went into researching pewter alloys and making dumbass candlesticks and now it doesn't.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349545 << now it goes to fund klimate reeeesearch!!1111 ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if you do musl rotor correctly, after stripping the elf you get a roughly 4M bin.
asciilifeform: as it builds gcc, toolchain, et al
asciilifeform: warning - this takes FUCKING FOREVER
mircea_popescu: ah what a pleasant day in the resistance.
mircea_popescu passes this along and goes to eat.
asciilifeform: aha may need trinque's correction on some damaged systems
asciilifeform: in the ml
mircea_popescu: i expect nothing, thus i live longer.
mircea_popescu: must say it's endearingly light, this bitcoin press.
asciilifeform: parallel tree
mircea_popescu: i suppose we'll have to restate the genesis huh
asciilifeform: presently buildroot fetches crud from the net
asciilifeform: and will go on the magic cd
asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible ☟︎
mircea_popescu: when one executes v-magic upon the genesis patch one must end up with a ready-to-go bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform besides the point tho.
asciilifeform: mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml
mircea_popescu: the idea here is to get a certain result through a certain process
asciilifeform: 'cause it isn't specific to trb
mircea_popescu: why's it not in teh patch tree ;/
asciilifeform: (rotor is a superset of stator that builds own compiler with - in my latest ver. - musl)
asciilifeform: for the rest, you need rotor or stator (your choice)
asciilifeform: aha so far this is strictly bitcoin
mircea_popescu: hmm, so this produces a press directory, which contains a bitcoin src, but there's no autogen.sh and how do you make this thing ?
asciilifeform: (nothing ought to)
asciilifeform: see what differs from trb site
asciilifeform: can take the patches & seals from my tarball, which is self-contained
mircea_popescu: so far the mirror list consists of trb site.
mircea_popescu: apparently it has a mirror list and then an init command.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where did you get the sigs and patches ?
mircea_popescu: seriously mod6, VERY nice job with this. 19 yo can use it!
mircea_popescu: Otherwise remove the invalid seal from your SEALS directory.
mircea_popescu: Check that this user is in your WoT, and that this key has not expired.
mircea_popescu: so /me gives new girl task to press v, half hour ago. other than the url issue above, "hey what sigs should i put in here ?" ☟︎
asciilifeform: all 3 of my currently operating trb nodes are using a rotor-on-musl build
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:59; pete_dushenski: e. also, that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349605 << libc. there are multiple usable implementations thereof ☝︎
asciilifeform: anyway drepper was drepper 20 yrs ago. today there are new dreppers. tomorrow there will be yet other dreppers.
pete_dushenski wonders where bounty on drepper's head is if wuille is worth the trouble
asciilifeform: the one i had to kludge around to get 'v' to work reasonably
asciilifeform: iirc he is even responsible for the retardation of gnu diff