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ben_vulpes: i have a (setf *read-default-float-format* 'double-float) in my .sbclrc
trinque: recall I saw this with the deedbot wallet? type is too small
ben_vulpes: see the line i sent to candi_lustt just a moment ago
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm getting demonstrably wrong numbers out of sbcl when subtracting
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i add in sbcl and round in the end by hand as taught in kindergarten
ben_vulpes: i'm sitting here getting float errors out of everything but my pad of paper
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i expect mechanical-disk nodes will fall behind again if usg 'stress test of blocks' were to resume.
lobbes: Phew. Now I can focus on getting trb node up this weekend (hit some barfs last night when building, will post details tonight). Also, logbot-based tickerbot is getting closer (tm) to existing  >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809600 ☝︎
asciilifeform: or am i overbending the stick here
asciilifeform: however if no one objects i will re-enable crunching tomorrow morning, after fermat is expected to be finished.
asciilifeform: very , very spiffy , trinque , i am impressed that this exists
asciilifeform: i'ma post the full barfology in the end, then , on own www
mircea_popescu: oh and a spiffy thing that is indeed! i'm like an eagle with my comments now.
trinque: asciilifeform: optionally I can aim this at you, just like mircea_popescu's trilema comments
asciilifeform: well eritreans raise children on $0 and fingernail dirt, so that dun tell us much. but i can picture.
asciilifeform: as i recall the obstacle was, however, that BingoBoingo would have to front a month of its cost ? or what was it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i proposed +10% as concretely 'flat AND pants'-enabling figure. plox to correct if by your reckoning it is not so.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I just prefer not to look things up if something can be said such as: "hey, the cocksuckers are cramping my style, need some space between myself and them" << As mentioned, I have the hostel side of that rather settled. My immediate concern is pants. That will be followed by something else reaching the end of its service life, etc.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what the contention is here at all. the "hey, we're paying ~same for current arrangement as apt would cost" point was, i thought, thoroughly resolved with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808553 convo yest. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i really ought to do, arguably, is look'em up and retro-diddle the Framedragger keys' userstrings in the db . ~however~ this would change their hash ! and break all the old links.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:30 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
mod6: I just prefer not to look things up if something can be said such as: "hey, the cocksuckers are cramping my style, need some space between myself and them"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:18 mod6: Look, I would apprciate if we can use plain language, no spanglish, no whatever flower-y things. I just need to read-once, parse-once.
mod6: Picture in my mind... when I read 'shore leaves', I start taking that literally, like 'oh, he went to BA?! nice! How come he didn't say so?!?!?!', etc etc.
mod6: When discussing business decisions, indeed, this would be great. I'm pretty thick, you see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it would not be inconceivable either pizarro or nsa buys some real estate in that town, i guess.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma put ' to be very concrete! with mod6 ! ' on my chalkboard
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, yeah but i mean, i paid quarterly as a rule, and it was exceptional. they generally do monthly payments. the wisdom of doing 3 year lump sum payments to spanish speaking peoples is debatable in any case.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew. << I did hear about a 'girl', which I was happy to hear! I just didn't know what 'shore leaves' was. Had to do 3 minutes of gymnastics. This is about comms with mod6.
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect it moved much in the interval.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:04 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month
BingoBoingo: hotel room, and the Peruana and I get to work on improving morale.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> what is a 'shore leaves' ? << At some point, usually 7 days after the last bang session the peruana starts to feel abandoned and to keep her available I have to find a place to bang her out. For a while the Cowork bathrooms were adequate for this purpose, but after one particularly energetic night/morning using the Cowork bathrooms for exercise became untenable. And people at the hostel gotta sleep. Thusly on day 8 or 9 I get a
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew.
mod6: Wasting 3 minutes of my time to ponder that is kinda .. exactly what I'm saying.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu i realized nao that if i fire up the thing as described, we won't have the hostnames. they are are (currently) trinque-produced. ☟︎
mod6: I'm totally clueless here, you'll have to forgive me.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my current understanding is that it is simply your 'shore leaves' in hotel ? am i right ?
mod6: Anyway, I'm all for it if we think we can make it work.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'ma let folx do own speaking, iirc i already made clear own position.
mod6: I'm simply saying, you should not have to translate for men who already 'speak' english.
asciilifeform: mod6: theoretically i 'shouldn't have to' lug 100kg of iron in a cart across 2 continents, but sometimes gotta do things 'shouldn't have to', lol
BingoBoingo: screeching monkeys are more like a one weekend out of every two sort of deal. I stress more over decisions like "when am I going to replace my pants (all of them) with ones that fit?"
asciilifeform: and i will personally concretize ( and perhaps be corrected by others, but at any rate will try )
mod6: And by all means, use whatever language in #trilema; I'm referring to when discussing pizarro proposals with me in particular. Too many mental gymnastics otherwise.
asciilifeform: i think mod6 understands.
mod6: Lol, oh yeah, i hear ya. I'm not disputing the need for a 'flat' or whatever, just trying to make sure I understand these points being made.
asciilifeform: would like a place to live, where the door closes, like you and i have.
mod6: Look, I would apprciate if we can use plain language, no spanglish, no whatever flower-y things. I just need to read-once, parse-once. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as soon as he coughs up the april statement ( containing, recall,actual revenue ) i will insist on a discussion of concrete plan to get BingoBoingo into proper flat and into non-itemized regular swap of pants.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i recall many sticking points around the flat; wouldja enumerate? water heater, previous flatrental...?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: i dun object; pizarro needs a better foundation than a writhing pile of chinches. i'd like to get a flat down there; this can consolidate the housing and desk expenses and provide i expect much needed moral uplift.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809223 << The cinches seem to be a rather solved problem at this point. Since the Cowork bathroom stopped being a viable location for banging, picking up a hotelroom one night every 8-9 days has helped the morale. I can continue the hostel life for quite some time. The bigger morale hit is... the lack of pocket money and the lack of a clear future where there is more pocket money. Room in the budget to ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can come up with a number, but I would like to see a proposal coming from the board that covers a year and moves away from the month to month shoot from the hip approach. A big part of the appeal of submitting to management was outsourcing the worry allocation. Even if it takes a week or two, seeing the board work through the process of putting an offer together so I don't have to stress over assembling an offer. Now
asciilifeform: i'ma then feed in the rest of Framedragger's collection; by the time trinque wakes up, oughta be ready to fire.
asciilifeform: but then i could not myself read it!111
asciilifeform: iirc i described all of the 'fast' pills i could think of, already.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought lobbes went off to write a proggy, neh
asciilifeform: ( somebody rousted the hamster hill ? i've nfi )
mircea_popescu: i imagine they'll be kinda happy once dead. finally, relieved from all these burdens too great, the embarassment of existence.
asciilifeform: i for one can't wait for the DAO-connected-to-rockets
mircea_popescu: such luzly cluelessness as to how to win a war, it's possibly the prime field of ustardian bogonism. i mean... they can;'t program computers, sure. but at least the computer doesn't shoot you for being an idiot.
asciilifeform: zx2c4: the logs countain a thousand examples. e.g. most americans are convinced that they can buy and drink milk in the corner shop ( they cannot, they buy 'ultrapasteurized' rubbish that tastes nothing like actual milk) ; that they live in 'nice house' ( they live in equiv of movie set, made of matchsticks, that falls over when first serious gust of wind ), that ... i could go on for a week and not even scratch the surface
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have seen and touched camel and esp. revel in the absurdity of the picture
mircea_popescu: i dunno anyone ever tried to fuck it, in preference of say fucking the toilet seat hole.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't tell you!
zx2c4: im surprised, by the way, to see asciilifeform's claim that communist romania was a picnic compared to modern america. why havent i ever experenced this?
phf: the mines are consistent: when left to their own devices, they slowly crumble, supports go, and men "unexpectedly!!1" die in a periodic collapse. i come back, i bark, triage the victims, assign a team on rebuilding the supports
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: okay lets say there's a lot of history i dont know and that there are only new things in the world?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i dun imagine he was much following bitcoin prior to his sudden realisation that it can do things.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, that's not what i said is it ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, are you aware some mit schmuck was "in charge of bitcoin" "left by satoshi" and then i said he'd better get lost and then he was kicked off like so much flotsam ?
zx2c4: asciilifeform: that quote from mircea_popescu you just pasted is interesting. i didnt know ceausescu did so much "political policing". i dont think i have any experience living in a society like that
mircea_popescu: i suppose he wasn't here for the gavin beheading, imagines the usg can even protect its agents or something like that.
asciilifeform: zx2c4: as a matter of fact, is IS a conclusion i can jump to trivially. because your supposed 'person' is actually a nameless cockroach beneath my feet. because he is not in the wot, and thereby not distinguishable from the 90000..+ faux 'humans' usg manufactures on daily basis to further its psyops. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this is why i'm somebody and ten thousand fake media shills are essentially gloves.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, not a matter of trivially. what i say has a lot of power, such as to end careers, research lines etcetera.
mircea_popescu: what am i going to do with this guy.
zx2c4: [ftr, i have no idea who committed the bug or if theres even a commit log]
mircea_popescu: i do not believe he can speak.
mircea_popescu: i'm not asking plebs anything. other than perhaps to get in the wot and do their log reading.
mircea_popescu: cuz they're poor, sad and stupid ? i dunno...
mircea_popescu: what exactly is prestigious outside of my rating it, i don't get it ? you imagine i even for a second see the people eating rubber chicken at conferences above the prostitutes i don't bother to talk to at strip clubs ? why the fuck would i roflmao.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, a) it is not a complaint b) seeing how i'm the one with all the money and all the rapes, i can scarcely conceive what "the world" even is.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was obvios enough it's the latter neh.
zx2c4: asciilifeform: arent there some commit logs that show where the debian bug comes from? i honestly cant remember
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i don't think the usg is capable of representing me at all.
asciilifeform: zx2c4: take very concrete case, of the debian keys. i.e. a nsa-planted 'bug'. it was very concretely in the nsa interest to prevent public euclidization , would have revealed the 'bug' immediately.
mircea_popescu: they're not "drawing the same conclusions". they're simply trying the equivalent of google keyword stuffing. "hey, maybe if i publish machine-generated pages with words people search for i'll be able to sell traffic"
mircea_popescu: i am not limiting the discussion to "Trendy". some items are useful to special-interest-group-women-are-people ; some other items are useful to special-interest-group-no-research-in-nsa-subersions-plox and so on
mircea_popescu: 1. research, as a proper item ( http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ ) died sometime at the onset of the socialist state. 2. the socialist state isn't willing to admit it will never ever do anything useful intellectually again, sets out to "reproduce" the results of science through what it understands of the method. 3. this in due time creates the "bologna system" of grants and so on.
asciilifeform: i.e. to know what MUST be told to all, but not to reveal.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: just trying to wrap my head around the NSA angle on all this. i get all the points about academics taking shortcuts or publishing nonsense. im not seeing the government conspiracy though
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i dunno what conspiracy is under discussion here.
zx2c4: well, rest assured, i've personally done a spooky amount of full disclosure stuff...
zx2c4: would you be inclined to believe me or would this be evidence that i'm also in on the conspiracy
asciilifeform: zx2c4: then i would ask why you decided to be an accomplice in usg coverup ?
zx2c4: (i actually havent, dont get too excited)