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mod6: pete_dushenski: you may want to try out trinque's latest changes
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 19:00:53; adlai: re:litecoin and our dearly departed aryan posterchild for bitcoin entrepeneurship... "It has a little value purely as a backup blockchain in case some critical flaw destroys Bitcoin's blockchain (assuming the same flaw doesn't affect LTC)."
pete_dushenski: mod6: cool thanks. i'll let you know how this test goes :)
mod6: pete_dushenski: ah ok. cool then, but yeah, shinohai was right, there /are/ i386/i686 steps available - although, i think I haven't updated them since V became a thing.
mircea_popescu: it died over the kicking and screaming pile of the aforenamed and more, flying to japan to "Save it" and etc.
pete_dushenski: mod6: looks like that's what i WAS doing. taking a crack from another angle now (debian 8 x86_64 bit)
assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 17:42:47; ascii_field: 'Now the Sirens have a still more fatal weapon than their song, namely their silence. And though admittedly such a thing has never happened, still it is conceivable that someone might possibly have escaped from their singing; but from their silence certainly never.' (ol' franz k.)
ascii_rear: in the sense where usg could have burned down gox ages before it died on its own, but see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-11-2015#1322048 ☝︎
mod6: pete_dushenski: are you trying to build rotor+TEST2 on i686? (sorry, i'm kinda coming in the middle of this convo.)
ascii_rear: at the root of the league of scumbags is the tacit nod of usg
mircea_popescu: forget about looking where the scam troop tries to direct your gaze and instead look at the man pointing.
mircea_popescu: it's these scumbags that are the problem, the meni rosenfelds and etc of the world.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing remarkable about mtgox other than the facrt that merck, and vessenes, and gavin and theymos and ver and who have you kept pushing it.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing special about pirate other than the fact that theymos, and gigavps, and grubbles and EVERYONE ELSE kept pushing him.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you hafta understand this "X is a scammer" bullshit is pretty much ALWAYS some sort of entrenched structure trying to wash its sins on the cheap. oh, "madoff" scammed ? Really ? HE diod it ? not the 1k+ "experts" that recommended him to his clients etc ? not all the various "supervisors" and "authorities" ? it was... maddof ? fuck that.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: heh. make that 32 bit. this is why, children, you measure twice and cut once !
thestringpuller: You once said, "More scammers, the more trustworthy the legitimates become", but I see less real business to scam ratio
ascii_rear: we may have to add whatever this thing is to the rotten linuxen list
ascii_rear: pete_dushenski: there's weird shit in your PATH
thestringpuller: so scam after scam continues, and we finally get this new class.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i was thinking the other day. bitcoin just has scammers. just as the world is filled with worms. pirateat40 was very low IQ scammer. then mt. gox tried to hide a little better not by alot.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: can you paste the output of `uname -a`
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - they're not young men, fated to one day be mature men. they're worms. not caterpillars. worms. fated to NEVER be anything but worms.
shinohai: pete_dushenski: is this a 32 bit machine?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> BitGo says: "My personal view at this point is that it's more important that we successfully accomplish an intentional hard fork" << yes, it would be important for their self-validaiton. just like every pimply teenager is right in suspecting that the most important thing they could be doing for their own maturity is actually bedding a woman already.
pete_dushenski: and lemme check the specs of the machine...
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 04:58:44; mircea_popescu: anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-9999
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> https://i.imgur.com/6QOdXb1.jpg << traditionally, that's what call girls are for.
pete_dushenski: mod6 ascii_rear et al. : the following are the various snippits of error messages from my most recently attempts at 99997k on debian 7 : http://dpaste.com/3SPWKDN.txt : any help is much appreciated.
ascii_rear: http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_big.php?n=2369 << the examples in the manual involve neutron kinetics in reactor
adlai half-continues the altkoin thread: "Rejection reason: Coinmarketcap is not a usable resolution source. Please resubmit with a reliable source for such data if you can." << does anybody nominate more reliable sources?
thestringpuller: adlai: slowly but surely. the theme is mainly done but have to do more wordpress-y things which i do enough of at work as is...
adlai: you seemed to also be on the verge of starting one, maybe i misread.
thestringpuller: my tumblr blog is stale
adlai lets sober adlai pick it up, someday. maybe on his sober blog, although the drunk one is much likelier to see the light of day phirst...
ascii_rear: if there were moar of this, possibly folks wouldn't unrate
ascii_rear: adlai: this thread is good sober adlai ☟︎
adlai shuts up again,alert reader can (apply #'adlai #&environment) themselves
adlai: ie, it has zero value as a backup blockchain, because it's all the same code, only with fewer fixes and more "it wasn't broken, why did you fix it?"
adlai: re:litecoin and our dearly departed aryan posterchild for bitcoin entrepeneurship... "It has a little value purely as a backup blockchain in case some critical flaw destroys Bitcoin's blockchain (assuming the same flaw doesn't affect LTC)." ☟︎
adlai opens a "lispm crashes upon or before delivery to end-buyer" bitbet, funds Yes (as a self-promotion stunt)
adlai: what about a shitty rental? remember, i may be wealthy enough to buy a ford t, but i'm too poorfag to register my own keyid
adlai would also be curious to hear how ascii_rear recommends transporting it [within the greater DC area] such that it remains in working order
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from -1 to -1 with note: thinks it's a fucking game
adlai suddenly recalls being told to shut up, this is excellent advice!
ascii_rear: won't last terribly long.
ascii_rear: with the exception that you can get parts for the ford t
ascii_rear: these are quite like a ford t
adlai: brokers deal with volume, sometimes arbitrage opportunities only exist for a single trade.
ascii_rear: also if adlai wants to be a serious broker in lispm, he ought talk to dave schmidt and not me
adlai: if it's still on the block, and in working order, then i'll get in touch with him.
adlai hasn't given you btc yet... gotta make sure the taker takes as well
ascii_rear: sorta like a 'ford t'
adlai like any srs trdr does not reveal both source and destination in the same breath
ascii_rear: not so many takers for these, who don't already have one.
adlai: there is a use for such things which does not require them leaving the greater DC area
ascii_rear: adlai: let's say you buy that machine. how do you intend to take it home ?
adlai: ascii_rear: only when people buy my ticket, or sell me a lisp machine
adlai: someday it'll be worth more than eric's head on a platter
adlai leaves the role of electrum to the alert/paranoid reader ☟︎
adlai: reddit is overflowing with shills telling people "exchange -> wallet -> other wallet -> electrum -> exchange -> shapeshift -> exchange ->etc"
adlai: uhh, isn't SOP crystal clear? eric gets a visit, doesn't want to shrem away a single day, so he sets up a "money laundering tool" which tracks IPs and uses 0conf to scam its lemmings
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 16:05:45; copypaste: indeed mircea_popescu, but you're missing the point; it's worth more to USG to have people that run services like Paxful out of the equation than the costs of putting them in jail
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357391 << relationship of usg with the penny-ante criminal caste is quite like that of gamekeeper and deer. see also mega-classic 'hitler's table talk.' ☝︎
ascii_rear: ty thestringpuller
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 18:20:32; thestringpuller: so evoorhees blasts litecoin with https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ then goes on to found shapeshift.io ...
thestringpuller: BitGo says: "My personal view at this point is that it's more important that we successfully accomplish an intentional hard fork"
punkman: "She divorced Edward Halverson and returned to using her family name after he was convicted of hitting her with a frying pan during a domestic argument in 2008. Edward Halverson is serving three to 10 years in state prison."
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357368 "force them to clean folds and give massages" win ☝︎
adlai is not a racist, also not qualified to fight such misinformation... just fyi
thestringpuller: so evoorhees blasts litecoin with https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ then goes on to found shapeshift.io ... ☟︎
adlai: so uhm, mircea_popescu tells me to shut up so i did,wandered over to fuckerbergia, troll around a bit, then this happens: http://i.imgur.com/rNWRjU3.png
adlai: !up for an !up leaves the rhyme unfinished
thestringpuller: Reminds me of some dumb redditard who was like "This webpage on reddit is 8 megs and I loaded it in 1 second. Blocks should be bigger!" << I was like you're proud of that nonsense?
thestringpuller: qntra is the fastest loading website
BingoBoingo: So qntra website should be even faster still than it was the last time I said it got faster here in channel. Please let me know if it is not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well sure. i was discussing the "what is taxpayer billed" angle.
adlai squares the triangle, stabilising the tripod with the most obvious omission: children
copypaste: you're digging your own grave by incorporating there and partnering with companies that all agree to prevent "money laundering", then in the next breath telling your clients to lie to those companies in order to transact
copypaste: it happened to bitinstant, coin.mx, and so on; i see no reason to think why it won't happen to Paxful just because the dollar amounts are on average smaller
copypaste: indeed mircea_popescu, but you're missing the point; it's worth more to USG to have people that run services like Paxful out of the equation than the costs of putting them in jail ☟︎
adlai: state commonly encountered among open source programmers, homeless alcoholics, and the mentally retarted
asciilifeform: usaschwitz prisoner - even in the Big Zone ('freedom') - is rarely fed actual bread, or even clean water
asciilifeform: so to return to mircea_popescu's wild supposition, the answer is no - it is much CHEAPER to house a prisoner or pay a guard in usaschwitz than in, e.g., su ☟︎
asciilifeform: e.g., zimbabwe has many more significant zeros, but also more turd
asciilifeform: the high wages in usa come simply from the sheer volume of bezzle sloshing around, and don't actually buy anything interesting (the lack of shit rivers in the streets has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of zeroes in front of the decimal point)
adlai redefines "lobbyist" as "collector of sales tax on tickets to the democracy theatre"
asciilifeform: adlai: read the hypothetical again. the net money to spend remains same
adlai: don't forget the lobbyist who asymptotically restores linearity
asciilifeform: (answer: yes! to the tax collector! he gets nonlinearly moar)
asciilifeform: let's put it this way, if $firm were to put N additional zeroes in front of my wage, and landlord put the same number of zeroes in front of my rent, does this make any practical difference ?
adlai: well naturally i'm capping the sample set at positive amounts of satoshi... if you're too stupid to make money, you don't have negative income. you are funemployed.
adlai: brb bullshitting it off trb financial statements
asciilifeform: the prison guard (or whoever else) cannot take the salary and spend it on N slaves in the turd world
asciilifeform: so to speak of it ~costing n times avg income on the planet~ or whatnot, is misleading, because the circulatory loop is closed
asciilifeform: 'american is never given money, he is merely shown it and allowed to hold in his hands for a spell to be reminded that it exists' ☟︎
asciilifeform: guard is paid $x, he - like every other working stiff in usaschwitz - goes back and spends $x-epsilon on housing racket and tax
BingoBoingo: Alright took the opportunity to chop on qntra a bit. Page loading should be still faster.
asciilifeform: (see the 'turkey-buying dollar' thread)
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 13:25:58; mircea_popescu: it costs n times the LIFETIME AVERAGE INCOME of the world's poorest billion to keep a dude in jail for a year.