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jurov: because you used not yet confirmed coins and someone malleated
their
transaction
kakobrekla: it was clear for a long
time its broked.
kakobrekla: i fell in
the same
tarpit with not
too long ago.
jurov: refresh
the wallet, resend
mircea_popescu: if it explains
the behaviour or not isn't really all
that germane.
mircea_popescu: i am not in
the business of debugging
the blockchain, really. i am in
the business of making payments. i can in fact prove
that i did sign a
transaction, from an address
that had
the coin,
to
the addresses
that should get it.
☟︎ jurov: how comes
then,
the only blockexplorer
that shows
the
txt, says it's spending invalid output?
mircea_popescu: seeing how one signs
THE ADDRESS not
the fucking
txid,
this is irrelevant
mircea_popescu: (at all
times) an infinity of
txids corresponding
to any
transaction floating around
jurov: mircea_popescu: you spent freshly created output
that was not yet mined
mircea_popescu: all my inputs are actual inputs as found in a block, not implicit inputs as found in a
txn
kakobrekla: you want
to adapt a pile of cpp crud ?
pete_dushenski thought world was supposed
to adapt
to bitcoin, not vice versa
pete_dushenski: i wonder where he got
the idea
to use footnotes from...
phf: they seemed
to have made a bunch of very nice bolt actions including an m38 version
BingoBoingo: Round
these part's
they are known as
the people who make orange stuff for rural folk
jurov: pity
they don't make guns (but who knows)
jurov: BingoBoingo:
they make plenty of other stuff, even sewing machines
BingoBoingo: I
thought Husqvarna was
the chainsaw and undersized
tractor company
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i suspect bb payouts were made with malleabled confirmed inputs and will never be mined for
that
that reason
mircea_popescu: anyway, i was saying : nono, no bash yet, you missed
the punchline. he bought himself a.... husqvarna!
pete_dushenski: "
TransCanada Corp sued
the U.S government in U.S. federal court on Wednesday, alleging President Barack Obama's rejection of
the Keystone XL pipeline exceeded his power under
the U.S. Constitution. Obama rejected
the cross-border crude oil pipeline late last year, seven years after it was first proposed.
TransCanada also filed legal action with NAFTA authorities saying
the pipeline permit denial was "arbitrary and u
jurov: Shenzhen Scooby Communication Corp. is
teh kul!
pete_dushenski: girl who leases $500/mo suv couldn't imagine justifying $800 iph0ne, so... bought $300 chinese
thing
☟︎ pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: consumers are wisening up
to even
this. many not upgrading os despite 'sekkoority' concerns. or switch
to chinese-android (yes, i've seen
this happen)
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: only problem is after 3 generations
they force
the phone
to become obsolete.
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: it's more
that all
the idiots already have $800 iphn0es
that works just fine
thank you very much. new one isn't much better, watch is not cool. so : peak smartphone is a reality
mircea_popescu had 5 vans from
the elec company milling about/parked all around.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: l0l
tracker. as if everybody did not already know where i were going
to and from.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: i own an example of just about every kind of
toy
thestringpuller: cause its a
tracker in your pocket and I see you being a private man.
jurov: and i can understand
the blockexplorers don't want
to fill
their database with invalid
txen
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:44:59; pete_dushenski: "Apple Inc shares dropped below $100 for
the first
time in nearly five months on Wednesday following reports of slowing shipments of
the
tech company's iPhone 6S and 6S Plus." << but can still buy all of russia, right guise ?
jurov: relaying and showing
to
the web user are
two different
things
thestringpuller: when you push
to blockr.io it detects a bad input and says "I won't relay
this"
thestringpuller: jurov: well from
the explorers standpoint blockcypher doesn't care is just saying "this
tx is borked look at
these double spent-like errors" and
then
the story continues
jurov: it is definitely not relaying it if it considers
the input invalid
thestringpuller: blockcypher is relaying it, but likely
the miners are seeing
the
tx as invalid for one of
the
two reasons jurov stated
pete_dushenski: "Apple Inc shares dropped below $100 for
the first
time in nearly five months on Wednesday following reports of slowing shipments of
the
tech company's iPhone 6S and 6S Plus." << but can still buy all of russia, right guise ?
☟︎ jurov: or someone
truly pulled
the rug from under mp
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller:
that's an improvement from blockr because
they were claiming
to not recognise
the
transaction at all yesterday
jurov: thestringpuller: yes. now go compare ebc5d7688364 with 09e82c06cc
to determine if it's merely malleated
thestringpuller: jurov: if you
try
to push it
to blockr.io it says "Inputs have double spends"
jurov: including
the
tx itself
jurov: btw,
there is "api call" link on blockcypher, so you can get detailed info from
there,
too
jurov: also, it's interesting
that noone voiced on #b-a happens
to be around
to analyze
this situation better
ascii_butugychag: if bitbet is sufficiently roboticized, (is it?)
this kind of situation is engineerable
☟︎ jurov: if he was spending some old mined output
this could not have happened
jurov: if i'm correct,
then why mircea_popescu was spending so very fresh coins?
jurov: if it was merely malleated,
then mp just needs
to spend
the mined one instead
jurov: only if
the other one is different
BingoBoingo: So did Bitbet get
tricked by a double spend?
jurov: which says
this
tx has been doublespent
jurov: if you click on
the blockcypher on
the (out...) under "input consumed", you'll end up here:
ascii_butugychag: this is a pretty good idea for a student project - write a
thingy
that connects
to a node and asks for a
tx
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:09:38; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357379 <--> "The price
tag for housing, feeding and caring for a prisoner in California has climbed
to almost $64,000 annually, up from $49,000 five years ago. Per prisoner,
the state spends more
than
three
times
the amount it did 20 years ago when
the population was a similar size."
jurov: sigh. namecheap is really a caricature now. clicked refresh icon in
the domains list, and it replied:
☟︎ pete_dushenski: y.
The state has also faced increased costs for prescription medications, including $60.6 million
this year for new Hepatitis C
treatments." << need moar hyooman ritez!!
pete_dushenski: "When asked why
the corrections budget hasn’t decreased, California officials often point
to a court order
to improve inmate medical care. In 2013, responding
to
the mandate,
the state opened a new medical facility in Stockton, called
the California Healthcare Facility, designed for inmates needing long-term inpatient medical care and intensive mental health services.
The facility costs approximately $295 million a
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 15:35:16; asciilifeform: so
to return
to mircea_popescu's wild supposition,
the answer is no - it is much CHEAPER
to house a prisoner or pay a guard in usaschwitz
than in, e.g., su