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ben_vulpes: anyways an entirely viable future is one wherein the various lords with computing gear remaining in the closet operate their own bitcoind variants as local banks, holding chits for the peasants and reconciling over shortwave gpggram
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: if faced with ru roads, i'd drive g-wagon, as ru'ians do.
asciilifeform: to even contemplate the notion that it doesn't matter, or to suggest that it is anything short of certain, betrays a deep ignorance of the actual making-things business as it stands for the last 200 yr. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: you speak as if it's a certainty, or at least as if it were a certainty, that it'd matter. ☟︎
asciilifeform: even as tourist
BingoBoingo: BIP 111 defines a service bit to allow peers to advertise that they support bloom filters (such as used by SPV clients) explicitly. It also bumps the protocol version to allow peers to identify old nodes which allow bloom filtering of the connection despite lacking the new service bit.
BingoBoingo: lol, they are also bumping protocol version bit: "Support for the NODE_BLOOM service bit, as described in BIP 111, has been added to the P2P protocol code.
BingoBoingo amazed that with his new lifestyle he can get a can of decent coffee that last a week and has the same cost as a cheap 5th of vodka
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 17:43:00; mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3657 << this is a nice and fine article, except at the part where the dude pretends like his betters - that is to say, rich people, white people, powerful people, me - are "an unknown quantity" and somehow an old policeman / janitor's relative is different. fuck that. you MAY have your little niceties, for jsut as long as you clearly understand that your role
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1374493 << In Lafondtology 'betters' are a known quantity as well. They attack down so avoid or appease. << oh, lafond himself gets the thing pretty close. it is a class thing. the problem is the speaker, who, like a bunch of his brethren, ended up in this weirdo alt-reality where THEY are the upper class. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 17:43:00; mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3657 << this is a nice and fine article, except at the part where the dude pretends like his betters - that is to say, rich people, white people, powerful people, me - are "an unknown quantity" and somehow an old policeman / janitor's relative is different. fuck that. you MAY have your little niceties, for jsut as long as you clearly understand that your role
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1374493 << In Lafondtology 'betters' are a known quantity as well. They attack down so avoid or appease. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "cross the imaginary, retrospectively hallucinated '''line'''" bs is worth about as much as the piss it carries.
mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3657 << this is a nice and fine article, except at the part where the dude pretends like his betters - that is to say, rich people, white people, powerful people, me - are "an unknown quantity" and somehow an old policeman / janitor's relative is different. fuck that. you MAY have your little niceties, for jsut as long as you clearly understand that your role here is strictly t ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, in their case it's empty blathering. the words they say are the result of what they think would work best as a thing to say, not anything deeper than that. they'd say they believe in cinderella fucking papa bear while riding on a golden broomstick if that's what the focus groups preferred ot hear.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1374299 << there's nothing wrong with that, let them have it, and enjoy its fruits. there's a reason the correct stance is to cater to the comfort of the priviledged and [not incidentally, but deliberatelty and by design] step on the faces of the worthless. but nobody's reequired to accept this as some sort of gospel - let them walk the desert of eating rocks and shitting ☝︎
ascii_shmoocon: for so long as somebody can cream you in production chain, he owns you
thestringpuller: none at all, but does serve as proof of the existence of said matter.
thestringpuller: and the cartel is run as a shady Triad-wannabe type of operation. Insane markups on retail, shitty products, extremely late delivery.
thestringpuller: "An interesting non-technical objection is that because nodes and miners who haven’t adopted the soft fork end up in the main chain anyway, this is a case of a majority undemocratically forcing a minority to adopt new policies. Of course, it’s your choice to use a protocol with this feature! Satoshi could have just as easily written Bitcoin to treat unknown block versions as invalid, but choose not too." << Uh huh.
mircea_popescu: as in stockings ?
phf: accelerate? what you trying to watch cat videos? i've only gotten as far as having emacs running on console
ben_vulpes: i'm playing openbsd quest most recently, as openbsd didn't do drivers or reference implementation compilation
assbot: Fowl therapy: Airline lets passenger bring turkey on flight as ‘emotional support animal’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1SVG4um )
pete_dushenski: in related travell nyooz, http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/fowl-therapy-airline-lets-passenger-bring-turkey-on-flight-as-emotional-support-animal&pubdate=2016-01-16
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373871 << except the sultan of brunei (as everyone knows?) has a thing for cars, not computers, and so has had dozens if not hundreds of custom-built automobiles, many of which he never drove and later left to rot in the sun, but that's his prerogative. but no, it didn't all go to glitzy whores. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 02:18:02; asciilifeform: as is the cpu in engine comp.
ben_vulpes: once i was a child, i extended them as much rope as i thought they'd need to hang themselves
ben_vulpes: i don't extend the robert viragh s of the world nearly so much rope as i did before
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 'twas so banal as to be entirely unremarkable
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: RE: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-11-2015#1325573 << Employer matches 401k up to ~6% of annual income pre-tax. The 401k program allows you to tke a 401k loan and pay yourself back. Best case scenario you pay the fiat back over X period (as long as you don't leave the job), or somehow there is some huge collapse and you just never pay it back. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 02:17:49; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373590 << the led in that turn signal is same as in a toyota.
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 02:12:24; asciilifeform: today one is not permitted to fly so much as a mile without filling out forms in triplicate
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1373841 << indeed. and we're imagining a world where cars ~at present~ function as airplanes ~once did~, merely to demonstrate the existence and advantages of specific types of economic organisation. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:48:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373655 << the thing here is that the age of unreliability is today, not 1700. as alf pointed out at some point - you couldn't sell ANY of your consumer junk you buy today to people living then. not your shitty shoes, not your shitty anything.
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:37:01; mircea_popescu: they're as unreliable as they fucking get.
thestringpuller: either that or he took it down as part of ragequit
thestringpuller: Isn't BitcoinJ the thing that lame android client used? That thing was buggy as hell and like 15 different distros of android caused the wallet to leak keys.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373434 << while this is a correct description, i would also like to add that a ~correct~ vtron is also defined as being SPECIFICALLY NOT THIS : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370325 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: but see... he has the capital of knowing how to... uhhh... oh i know, misrepresent his vices as virtues!
asciilifeform: gonna tell me that a sawmill is the same as knowing-how-to-remove-appendix ?
raedah: hello. here i am known as raedah. ive been a dev for joinmarket for the past few months. i like sexual relations with women, resisting invalid authority, educating ignorance, and being in nature.
mircea_popescu: also known as "fuck everything up, nobody'll figure it out anyway"
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 01:48:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373655 << the thing here is that the age of unreliability is today, not 1700. as alf pointed out at some point - you couldn't sell ANY of your consumer junk you buy today to people living then. not your shitty shoes, not your shitty anything.
asciilifeform: as in rail.
asciilifeform: btw i'm not even sure it makes sense to compare the two - smbx was in an industry almost unrelated as, e.g., j. d. rockefeller's
asciilifeform: as is the cpu in engine comp. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373590 << the led in that turn signal is same as in a toyota. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: 1]: with version 99997 create (by hand) a ~/.wot directory and populate it with keys named as their irc-nick and .asc, like: mod6.asc or asciilifeform.asc
BingoBoingo: bzns is to bsns as azn is to Nisshin Maru
asciilifeform: today one is not permitted to fly so much as a mile without filling out forms in triplicate ☟︎
mod6: i'm not really talkinga bout the pressing. as i was saying to ben, i checked all of my pressings by final output hash & have automated tests that check & ensure this outcome is correct.
mod6: from those discussions, I'm under the impression that the ordering of the flow doesn't exactly have to be the exact same, as long as the pressing is the exact same.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
BingoBoingo: But neither would be capable of crushing as many skulls as 1950's equivalent
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373655 << the thing here is that the age of unreliability is today, not 1700. as alf pointed out at some point - you couldn't sell ANY of your consumer junk you buy today to people living then. not your shitty shoes, not your shitty anything. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: for as long as they make as much difference as rats, they can also multiply as rats.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but the ONLY difference is that instead of cox writing 10k 50 dollar bills for cable each month, a coupla hundred people sign off on cable bills worth 10k dollars each once a year. and the internet is twice as good. << Kinda why US municipalities with good internet have a maximum size.
mircea_popescu: but the ONLY difference is that instead of cox writing 10k 50 dollar bills for cable each month, a coupla hundred people sign off on cable bills worth 10k dollars each once a year. and the internet is twice as good.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373607 << it's the same money, but in fewer hands. think of it this way : currently, there's 10`000 "family units" in town X making "the decision" to buy cable. as a result... there's two shitty companies and a de facto monopoly. transform those families into slaves and servants. they no longer get their own house, but live in the house oftheir masters, at their disposals ☝︎
mircea_popescu: they're as unreliable as they fucking get. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it
mircea_popescu: letting bitfury & friends eat 100mn in unrecoupable engineering costs would provide exactly the correct lesson as to what it's a good idea to say and when it's a good idea to shut the fuck up and toe the line.
jurov: when did you start considering headcount as a measure?
jurov: what is hard to imagine, how to achieve this together with profit as a motive
pete_dushenski: with the amount of fiat sloshing around, it's hard to imagine this niche-or-nothing/15k-only approach coming to dominate industries and manufacturing sectors any time soon, but the thermodynamics do point to this as a far more (whisper it) sustainable solution
jurov: for the gasoline the difference in availability does not cause big problem. but as the tech stack up, the effect multiplies
jurov: well, i don't see the "trickle down" as optional
pete_dushenski: the gasoline infrastructure that exists also has no reason to go anywhere as long as there's a market to support it
guruvan: as long as it's not js
mod6: basically checking the mechanics to ensure that the resulting output was the same. this gave me confidence that my toposort was functioning as it should.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> for instance, in the flow ordering it doesn't really matter which comes first: maxint_locks_corrected or add_verifyall as long as they both come after their respective antecedents. << This threw me for a loop the first time.
mod6: for instance, in the flow ordering it doesn't really matter which comes first: maxint_locks_corrected or add_verifyall as long as they both come after their respective antecedents.
ben_vulpes: mod6: im still a bit unclear as to what "precedence levels" refers
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> what do you mean "precedence levels" << as long as this is met. meaning that certain things come before other things.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in the *exact same* tree under all V's, as i understand it ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 14:33:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1371985 << the other consideration is that europe is chock full of bad copies of the classical masters. and they all suck, except the few that don't. such as for instance rubens, who learned to paint by doing a poor job of copying at first. or michelangelo, or anyone else. because yes, everyone that ever was a master painter learned his craft by trying h
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372540 << cxt is supah-bad-ass. problem is... it's $100k. there's no el cheapo entry-level spec for 1/3 price as in F-150, etc. ☝︎
jurov: guruvan: pls post the configg.log as it says
jurov: i'm not taking anything for last year, consider it as my tax payment
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, i'm going to take the girls out to eat, and so we can continue later !
mircea_popescu: jurov seems the trade'll unwind. in fairness, you can't at the same time try to snipe bids you like, and be upset you don't see as many as you decided you need.
mircea_popescu: jurov lettuce not be naive. the alternatives here aren't the alternatives we perceive we would prefer. it's either he's a free man and does it as such, or else he's a peon like al schwatz describes in that very well written piece.
jurov: oh, i am already doing it as foundation treasurer it has much better ratio :D
ascii_shmoocon: jurov if you need it, you can buy me as well as anybody
ascii_shmoocon: as it is, snsa is somethng i do on the train to and from 8h of garbage
mircea_popescu: well as described in monthly letters, all sorts of things
ascii_shmoocon: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373053 << i've yet to meet anybody who was ready to be revalued 'as worth' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to things : 1. a thriving middle class means very strictly, ruined-usg-everything as well as scandalously oppressed orcs. this is what it means, this is what'll happen because middle class is not negotiable.
BingoBoingo: I'm already trying to unlearn it as best as I can without relapsing
mircea_popescu: instead of today's arrangement where you can fit the nominal owners of the world in a fucking room, whereas every fucktard worth ~0 out there derps about how "black lives matter" as if obviously his did,
ascii_shmoocon: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1373047 << as it is, just ~my~ tax blood supports 3-4 of'em ☝︎
mircea_popescu: review the discussion of buffett's fraudulent pretenses as to "the low tax".
mircea_popescu: as if that's what decides things or w/e.
jurov: no political bickering will change the fact that engineering has huge fixed costs that are best split to as many chumps as possible
jurov: it would struck them as deeply uneconomical and they'd just revert to horses