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asciilifeform: we ran through all of latin, greek, went through much of hebrew on one chalkboardfull
mircea_popescu: by looking at parts at a time!
mircea_popescu: if i see void alfun (1, 2, 3, 4 .. 26); ima think you can't code.
mircea_popescu: just define whatever the fuck and work on one sum at a fucking time already.
asciilifeform: or to use more than 26 variables ?
asciilifeform: what next, if i need to define an operator i also fucked up ?
mircea_popescu: besides the fact that it paginates poorly.
asciilifeform: and when you have 11 of them nested ?
mircea_popescu: in 6th or 7th grade at some point i discovered sums and the sigma. i was enchanted for about a year. throughout highschool i just wrote them out.
asciilifeform: idk, get out old notebook from school, and see how many pages it'd take you to ~unambiguously~ and ~rigorously~ english-verbalize, e.g., green's theorem ?
asciilifeform: has to any of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu speaks like a fella who never has to.
asciilifeform: (the alert reader will recognize the infamous 'y combinator.')
ben_vulpes: the sample code had some declarative rules, and your complaint was something along the lines of "why'd they get rid of the parens?!"
ben_vulpes: i've been digging, but the line's not showing in the logs.
asciilifeform: i must've slept through this.
asciilifeform: lemme guess, it was a gabriel_laddel thread
ben_vulpes: where did this come from and where did it go
asciilifeform: shit, shinola. both black, 'spreading works', the similarity ends there.
asciilifeform: and to compare this to the idiot 'smiley' crapolade is lunacy
asciilifeform: and the keyboard of a civilized person ~ought to~ have a alt-graph metakey and a λ printed on the front facet of the L.
asciilifeform: and (λ (x y) (....)) ~is~ superior to (lambda...
asciilifeform: at any rate, the question of sexprs vs infix ('rich syntax', in derp terminology) is orthogonal to '∇ vs nabla' thing
ben_vulpes: doubt rules engine made it into the log
asciilifeform digs futilely for the thread
ben_vulpes: 'tis in the log
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what's in ruin.txt ? << Enemies whose char would make suitable black for darkening wizard tower stones
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 17:40:46; ascii_butugychag: and i'm not interested in writing word 'nabla' instead of ∇ every time !111
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366807 << aheha this from the guy who when looking at a dsl for a rules engine complained "but but what's wrong with the sexprs?!" ☝︎
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: has equations in his text files?
thestringpuller: i see him on steam occassionaly. must have taken early retirement.
ben_vulpes: year and thirty weeks
thestringpuller: LOL smickles has only beeng gone a year. I thought it was longer than that.
danielpbarron: ben_vulpes> you played trader without spreadsheets? << what is it for? I use strictly txt files in my various Eulora activities
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2016-info/nk-hwasong-gulag/nk-hwasong-gulag.htm << gotta love how usg names roads 'for them'
mircea_popescu: that alone was like 1bn then. prolly 15 bn by now lol
BingoBoingo: Even jurov got sucked into it with the S.MPOE/1BTC share convertability
mircea_popescu: yeah cuz we had a fully researched or whatever it was ? bp to make that battleship
BingoBoingo: Ah, I missed that part
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 30 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 30 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
mircea_popescu: smickles, that's right!
mircea_popescu: i remember we kinda had enough of the shit at the same time and that guy, what's his name, the accountant guy ended up inheriting it all
BingoBoingo: Summer 2013. After I'd visited here and before I was sitting here full time
mircea_popescu: dude how long ago was this ? 2012 ? 13 ?
mircea_popescu: and with that other chick, what was her name
mircea_popescu: and fuel was in high demand so we bought some precursors from jita and sold the fuel to the people in low sec
mircea_popescu: anyway, iirc what we did was, we had a full space station that produced fuel
BingoBoingo: The prospect of locking up CPU time for 8 hour autopilot runs + normal Jita lag was too much
BingoBoingo: Nah the smaller thing. By the time I trained to the obelisk is about when I bored out of eve. Fucking jumps
mircea_popescu: but i do recall BingoBoingo did a bunch of hauls in one of those what were they called ? obelisk ?
mircea_popescu: i think i had them haul 5 bn worth of isk in 10-20mn installments
ben_vulpes: and the mega-pvp, even worse.
mircea_popescu: in tyhe end i was using that society, what was their name
BingoBoingo: The fucking "jumps" were the worst part of hauling
mircea_popescu: but the game is incredibly boring.
BingoBoingo: The things I have to see
mircea_popescu: anyway, the bitcoin eve society had like... a space station fully built and i dun remember how many of the not-titan class ships, a dozen or some shit
BingoBoingo: Newsing is awfully time consuming.
BingoBoingo: He was mining in his little pickup truck with a new recruit and then he got FOOF'd
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nah, eve has an inflation problem larger than the usg's. << And a problem where some things had absolutely no market anywhere, like slaves.
ben_vulpes: you played trader without spreadsheets?
mircea_popescu: not to how you play it.
mircea_popescu: the "spreadsheets in space" thing referred to how its graphics/engine is absent,
ben_vulpes: in the sense of a game that is most effectively played with spreadsheets.
mircea_popescu: nah, eve has an inflation problem larger than the usg's.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 15:21:54; copypaste: i very much love the concept of a 3d game with a bitcoin economy. i've played a few, but all poorly done.
mircea_popescu: if you think i'm about to load my head with random strings...
asciilifeform: and useless in that i never found a serious use for it
ben_vulpes: why useless? and changed to?
asciilifeform: (he changed them out later)
mircea_popescu: and let me guess, you'll get them from... hets ?
ben_vulpes: fantub tasslyb or what was it
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 13:56:49; mircea_popescu: yes, naming can work like that, if 8chan.co and 94875984375983.jksldak are the same to you.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366272 << whattabout the pronounceable mnemonic hashes a la urbit? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i caught snippets over the oar, looking forward to it.
asciilifeform: at a given time.
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 01:13:37; mircea_popescu: not really. to guarantee same-day inclusion, you'd need 1/10/24 * 10^11 = 0.5% of the current hash rate. to guarantee the usual thing wires guarantee (2-3 days) proportionally less.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367138 << well, of the hash rate ~forever~ ☝︎
mod6: would trade again
shinohai: Good to have friends that will ship you rubbers just like that when necessary.
mod6: ftr: im still laughing about kako's buddy who needed the condoms in thailand
mircea_popescu: not really. to guarantee same-day inclusion, you'd need 1/10/24 * 10^11 = 0.5% of the current hash rate. to guarantee the usual thing wires guarantee (2-3 days) proportionally less. ☟︎
shinohai: It would be handy to mine own tx's but would require considerable hashpower, no?
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 00:59:53; mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe all this "soft-fork" bullshit is really a good opportunity to start a #b-a mining pool. ☟︎
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367122 <<< /me would certainly try to obtain miners to mine on a #b-a pool ☝︎
asciilifeform: interesting idea, but what's to keep a public pool from infinite ddos 24/7.
mircea_popescu: anyone want to run a pool ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe all this "soft-fork" bullshit is really a good opportunity to start a #b-a mining pool. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Other commands may emerge, but bloom filter request is the only one I have seen in the wild.
BingoBoingo: I mean before using the patch. I've only seen bloom filter from multibit/Shildebach et al hit my node.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it won't show up in the log as a distinct thing
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo it is not an accurate description of malleus patch to say that it only nukes peers using bloom filters. it nukes any peer which issues any command whatsoever unsupported in trb.
asciilifeform: may be simply on account of the ~80% drop in traffic, though.
asciilifeform: ~considerably~ smoother performance on the trb+malleus nodez
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/0B92T3F
mircea_popescu: in other news, the new merchant of venice is actually 40% done!
BingoBoingo: It can wait for you to wake up
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> might even make a good qntra piece. this sort of miserable behaviour needs some castigation., << for srs jurov
jurov: i'm tired and want sleep, whoever is doing qntra, can have it