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mircea_popescu: reading mike hearn is like reading
timecube without
the humor, writing skill, grounding in reality, variety and aesthetic appreciation.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, i have yet
to see a
tx
that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for
the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE
THAN WIRES.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: " but it’s now common
to be asked
to pay more
to miners
than a credit card would charge."
BingoBoingo: ;;later
tell bitstein I missed
that original piece by Mike Hearn. I see no reason
to link it or an archive of in in
the Qntra article. Mike Hearn hasn't had a say on any subject in a long
time. Why should he get one about himself?
phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of
the whole keyring concept? i assume
the switch is
to "a folder full of ascs"?
☟︎ mod6: ;;later
tell PeterL I guess also, if
that doesn't resolve
the issue,
there could be something weird going on with your gpg import. might have
to investigate more with you.
mod6: ;; later
tell PeterL hey,
the version of 'v.pl'
that you have looks correct
to me.
the issue is
that you have
the pubkeys named incorrectly,
try with 'mod6.asc', 'ben_vulpes.asc', 'asciilifeform.asc' and 'mircea_popescu.asc'
mod6: shinohai: good
to hear,
thx for
the update.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 427.56, Best ask: 427.71, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last
trade: 427.52, 24 hour volume: 13409.57571648, 24 hour low: 426.0, 24 hour high: 435.0, 24 hour vwap: None
adlai blinks... since when does deedbot- follow nyt? or hearn for
that matter?
ben_vulpes: ui programmers are especially prone
to
this, imho because
the smalltalk MPI style of MVC and data marshalling
through layers is very much not a paradigm
that lends itself
to simplicity of code design.
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:32:41; mircea_popescu: i suspect
that at
the root of
the complexity-seeking behaviours is
the deeply internalized if very infantile fear
that if others understand what you did
they won't respect you for doing it. because hey, 5yo doesn't understand what parents do.
adlai files incident under "excuses
to steal"
adlai: the fiat gov signing such a law signs its own expiration warrant, but
the average legislator probably isn't smart enough
to be reading
the logs
adlai wonders whether a sign of 'Bitcoin Mecca' will be legislating
that
taxable income must be delivered in local fiat, without actually making non-fiat payment illegal as incentive, enticement,
teasing, etc
adlai: not in
the "produce non-cuantic
trading engine" sense, but in
the "RFC if your
trade didn't appear properly" sense
adlai: assbot isn't 100% correct, but
this is fixable
adlai still
things
that !s S.MPOE would be more useful in deedbot
than log.b-a
adlai would guess
that it's a little early for an RFC, but has no readily available data about
the
time-in-market for RFCed
technology
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 03:31:31; ben_vulpes: i do not see
the point at all in differentiating between
txnen-which-are-relayed and
txn-which-are-mined
shinohai: ;;later
tell mod6 V pressed out correctly
this
time, is building.
BingoBoingo: You've never covered anything enough on
Trilema.
This is a serious optimization problem.
BingoBoingo: Ah no. I jsut suspected you might be writing a post.
Then when you said it wasn't going into a post decided
to jinx it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i
thought you meant you wanted
to use it or something.
BingoBoingo: That's how USG works, just fishing new Hearnias everytime
the dumber power rangers rig up a fresh
truss
to pretend
the last one wasn't a problem.
mircea_popescu: should
that happen, which seems improbable, i'll just... fish another one ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At some point you are surely going
to find occasion
to include
that amateur whore in a
Trilema. It will be
the exact derp
to properly explain some other derp who needs a good shiting on.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> You say
that now, but
tomorrow circumstances will demand it or something. << wait, wut ?!
mircea_popescu: sort-of how philosophy is studied both historically and
thematically.
the log is historical, but
there should prolly be a
thematic repository
mircea_popescu: in my mind at least, "summary" has merged much closer
to re-threadify.
BingoBoingo: adlai: Cliff notes are not reading shakespeare, even if
the kid passes
the classroom
test. Even a quality summary is at best merely an aid useful for assisting a
thrid or fourth rereading of
the actual canon material.
BingoBoingo: You say
that now, but
tomorrow circumstances will demand it or something.
BingoBoingo: Is
that getting wrapped into a
trilema post?
BingoBoingo: Qntra is
the wrong place for log "summaries," News
that happens in
the logs yes. General summmaries of X period in
the logs no.
The complete logs are
their own canon.
trinque: it's certainly more an editorial/publishing concern
than mere archival
adlai wonders whether qntra would be a better venue
than deeds for summaries; it has
the advantage of requiring review and implying approval, rather
than merely inviting sha256 and best-effort backup
PeterL: anyway, I am off
to get dinner, will check back in later sometime
PeterL: maybe? alf and mircea I copied key off net and into file,
they show up fine in v list,
the other
two I imported into gpg key and
then exported
to a file
mircea_popescu: PeterL
the script looks ok i have nfi how it could put out
the output you show.
adlai: well
the logs
themselves are deeded (or at least
the past year(s)? didn't verify it all myself)
adlai wonders how serene a republic must get for
the first n00b
to volunteer log summary deeds... not like anybody able
to pay for
this would either do so or volunteer himself
PeterL: no, I looked at
the files,
they are each different
PeterL: I
think it should have a different fingerprint for each person, but it is showing
the same for everybody
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:54:03; mircea_popescu: pirate was like "o bitcoin will now fail".
that garza idiot ?
mircea_popescu: for
there is no such
thing as defeat, as alf correctly observes. but
there is such
thing as victory.
thestringpuller: while at
the same
time woodchipper continues
to spew moar corpses into grave while idiots
tell you "they know better"
mircea_popescu: you'll sit
there on a mass grave with a million corpses in it, and alternatively piss inside and go "no defeat here"
brg444: they're already breeding
the new generation "toomim"
mircea_popescu: anyone remember "twobitidiot" ? no, because
today it's "toomim brothers". bla bla, whatevs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, expect him
to show up in system-d or whatever. "grounded in business reality"
thestringpuller: i forgot. sometimes
they just sprinkle crack on nigger homeowners and call it a day.
thestringpuller: i guess how cops only catch some of
the criminals not all of
them.
mircea_popescu: in
the sense
that nytimes only publishes
the faux accounts of SOME scammers, rather
than all scammers.
brg444: thestringpuller
there's not quite an attention whore like mike
mircea_popescu: pirate was like "o bitcoin will now fail".
that garza idiot ?
☟︎ thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i don't recall any other scammer being as vocal after
they failed.
mircea_popescu: what did you expect him
to do, "i am an abject failure
that decided
to go up against better men, who first warned me and
then
turned me inside out like a glove" ?
thestringpuller: What is
this nonsense? Mike Hearn gets exiled from Bitcoin and decides
to keep complaining?
brg444: ^ meh. Price did react and
tanked when he released
the XTurd
thestringpuller: oh
this
takes
the cake >> “I want
to be in a professional environment again where people are grounded in some sort of business reality.”
thestringpuller: "He believes
that
the dangers of
the current impasse have not been reflected in
the price of Bitcoin because
the full debate has been censored in many of
the online forums where Bitcoin is discussed." << When did reddit become "the forum"?
mircea_popescu: but
the fact
that
they can't keep
their oh-so-precious "state secrets" from
the republic bothers
them immensely.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
Thing hit my radar just after
the Post industrial shithole piece.
thestringpuller: that picture is priceless. he could at least have a few sluts
to pose with.
mircea_popescu: he was a prominent mole, ever since
the original forkattack.
mircea_popescu: " Mr. Hearn, until recently one of
the most prominent leaders of
the Bitcoin project, became so disillusioned
that in December he sold
the few hundred Bitcoins he had left and quietly
took a job at a new start-up."
brg444: I'm seeing
that now :/