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ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-16#356543 << i've got folks in-wot i've already pushing btc to over amazon; i'm pretty comfortable with orders in the range of 500-2000 usd; what i'm looking for are folks that want to eat on the order of 10kusd of btc every month or so, that's the comfortable headroom i'd like ☟︎
mircea_popescu: o btw asciilifeform , here's a hysterical example of the usual boeckisms : http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/#comment-125502
mod6: <+asciilifeform> hey ben_vulpes , trinque , mod6 , do you also get these horrors in the post ? << oh yeah. i end up with bushels to burn every quarter.
lobbes: apparently us kidz these days are getting their ss#s harvested from the numerous 'ransomware attacks' on schools (i.e phishing government employees to give access to poorly protected data)
asciilifeform: ( at one time i dismissed this as a laborious/rare scam, until met several people who ended up in it )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i realise.
mircea_popescu: you know i never got one ? in my entire life!
mircea_popescu: anyway, this discussion is vividly bringing to mind acquaintance there. erry day he'd religiously shred the mail spam. "hey, why do you not read it ?" "well, it's spam, waste of time to read. that's why i shred". erry day, half hour, at the least. saving self from the waste of time.
asciilifeform: i would be surprised if not
mircea_popescu: i hear dali made urine etchings.
asciilifeform: nao they introduced ~metal~ cards. but these dun get sent unsoliced -- yet. when they start to, i'ma have to... idk, first burn, then slice what remains with guillotine ?
asciilifeform: i had to upgrade the crosscuttron, to eat these...
asciilifeform: i shred the scamola 'preapproved!111' from these, ~daily
mircea_popescu: well sure as fuck not with a card lol. unless i suppose the occasional "platinum iridium black iridiscent" cuck
mircea_popescu: i bet.
lobbes: but yeah, I'm almost always interested if pizarro needs some lulazon materials ordered
lobbes: mircea_popescu, well, optimally I'd be buying a little btc every certain frequency. Just converted some fiat a month or so ago though buying for pizarro
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will likely find out soon, i wrote quote reqs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this is fine for you neh, talk to rc suppliers, qwho are all in china, until one wants to sell 96 pcs on wire. this way you know who to talk to about ~other~ pieces also later on, as i fucking doubt anyone only sells rc on amazon yes ?
asciilifeform: lobbes: it does. doesn't do anything for wires tho. and i looked in the docs, word 'wire' is only mentioned in re third-party sellers on lulazon being able to accept them ( on own power ) as payment
asciilifeform: the other thing, i doubt that lulazon is sole source for anything. merely fast/convenient in asciilifeform's locale. but e.g. the rc board ~is~ available elsewhere
mircea_popescu: not that i use it much.
mircea_popescu: when the hell did that happen ? im pretty sure i ever only paid it via wire
asciilifeform: ( tho i'ma prolly still need a hand with those, from other l1 folx with lulazon accts )
asciilifeform: that one i recall
asciilifeform: smickles ? i was tuned in but not speaking iirc
mircea_popescu: and if it does that, you got an item. remember the first actually deeded item, smickles' report re i don't recall which scamfest ?
mircea_popescu: i somehow doubt that.
asciilifeform: right, i assumed 'country' field is 'to where wire'
asciilifeform: or am i misconfiging the search box
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don'\t mean uy AT ALL.
mircea_popescu: i'm chuckling already. i mean... you know ?
mircea_popescu: anyways -- something is better than nothing ; i'm not insisting on the specific someting, merely provided by means of example. as long as there's something.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unless you found and fixed ave1's mistake, you will have same eggogy arm64 gnat as i do
diana_coman: so I started ave1's script on a pc and hopefully I'll have a fresh gnat in the morning
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:55 diana_coman: aha, why I chose the other one; but I can try the native one anyway too, sure
asciilifeform: it is not possible to say this except when you've never tried to disasm a multiMB turd, what can i say.
diana_coman: it might be my weird optimism but I'd say people are so starved of interesting problems that not-being-idiotic is already a huge reward
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: and "drink the ocean" is an eminently attractive problem. in fact, i know of no more attractive class.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'nothing weighs too much', unfortunately this is not so, there are maybe a dozen people who can play, alive, and i actually dun know any of the other 19 , and even a 64kB binturd can be month's work, and problem is not O(n) even.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I really get that but onth if I have to get a bin I'd much, much rather get one from you than from adacore
diana_coman: aha, why I chose the other one; but I can try the native one anyway too, sure ☟︎
diana_coman: but kind of weird, I mean: which wrong ball
asciilifeform: i think you may have unpacked wrong ball
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect mistake : cuz i see http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gi3gH/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i certainly am contemplating same for s.mg. after all, if one's not gonna tie himself to the smart ones, who will he tie himself to.
diana_coman: and fwiw I tried running from there also ./aarch64-musl-linux-cpp -> same result ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this should be the arm thing; hence the above confirmation with asciilifeform that I took the correct thing
diana_coman: well, I took it, checked it and it was ok, unpacked it and then went to its bin and tried to run gprbuild for instance and it died with exec format error...
asciilifeform: the one i tested earlier, on pc, was muslaarch64-linux-muslada.tar.gz .
diana_coman: thank you, I'll try it out
asciilifeform: i.e. the musltronic gnat itself, is a properly static, musltronic elf.
asciilifeform: the 'native' ones, iirc, expect an existing musl linux; i tested the x86-64 'muslada'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: want the tarball ? ( i have not tested it )
diana_coman: so hm, put it somewhere so I get it to my rockchip and test it in one blow?
asciilifeform: ( i have not tested yet )
diana_coman: I thought adacore had a gnat for arm too?
diana_coman: hm, come to think of it I could try it on my rockchip I suppose
diana_coman: apparently my local-gentoo-for-testing is still borked somewhere in some gcc version as it turns out it had died with ..cannot create executables (although gcc is set to 4.9 etc but this is an experimental box so I'll have to sort it out)
asciilifeform: i omitted a step 5 ) put in ~/.bash_profile , the path, e.g. PATH="/home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin/x86_64-linux-musl/bin/:$PATH"; export PATH
asciilifeform: i built a ch10 ffa with it, and the result runs.
asciilifeform: however : i get 'exec format error' when trying to run any of the bins!!!
mircea_popescu: eventually gone away, i guess.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think rosenfeld was before my time. tho he came up recently, iirc during adlai's expulsion ( he tried to defend , iirc )
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other lulz, i can't imagine anyone can possibly regard "child pornography charges" / "sexual assault charges" etc brought by the criminal org as anything than shameful fabrications.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 16:43 asciilifeform: ^ d00d with large collection of debian-style 'famous p's and q's', even once showed up here and asked to get phuctor's, and he did, but somehow his collection includes ~whole keys~ rather than factors. soon i'ma feed in ~his~ collection.
mod6: yeah. 99% crap. at least trilema, when I get 27mb, i get 99% stuff I actually want to read/view.
mircea_popescu: mod6, i don't even have a problem with the mb, per se, i mean holy hell there's trilema pages consisting of tables or novels or w/e the fuck. but that mb is <1% markup for the love of christ, not 99%.
mircea_popescu: the externalized costs, you know ? suddenly puts into a whole new perspective the "net neutrality" thing. srsly, i must buy more switches cuz your "pages" are larger than my porn collection ?!
mircea_popescu: i shit you not. here's the page : https://archive.is/OJrrE ; here's the story : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uGngm/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: in utterly other lulz, i just archived a facebook page. anyone care to guess the aggregate byte size ?
mod6: I don't have many "friends" irl or anything, but once we have a landing page, will do what I can on my meat-side.
mod6: I mean, "wotless guys".
mod6: Yah, and possibly fg. I know there is a sentiment that orcs are not interested in fg -- however, there are people I've talked to who are pretty interested in that. Don't have coins to buy one, however, still, interest is there.
mircea_popescu: suppose there's a facebook group. suppose whatever the fuck, i dunno, i do other things.
mod6: Well, I did talk to a kid at lunch - told him we got cheap hosting.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, I started it too and I'll leave it on, will see tomorrow morning I guess
diana_coman: ave1, if I want to test your gnat-building script what steps should I follow so that I have at the end of it maximum info re what works/doesn't and in what context exactly? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'ma try it again, looks like OBJECTS was still set somehow
asciilifeform: ave1: but i did remember it after 1 failed run. possibly gotta zap the existing build ?
asciilifeform: ave1: i unset ADA_OBJECTS_PATH and ADA_INCLUDE_PATH
ave1: same as last time, ADA_OBJECTS_PATH and ADA_INCLUDE_PATH need to be *not* set. I can add the resetting of these variables to the script, but unsetting a variable is not something I usually do in a script.
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813474, it uses MAKEOPTS, could you paste the contents of "build/build-bootstrap/config.sh" ? I will add a readme file to the set. ☝︎
mod6: I gotta get some shitty coffee. bbs.
mod6: I'm just trying to figure out if Pizarro has enough cash to get 48 of these down there.
ben_vulpes: no this is incorrect. i am fighting a fire elsewhere right now, will be back as soon as i can.
mod6: I may have screwed this up: http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rockchip.lisp
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how this works, but pizarro seems to be getting ever less for ever more money.
mod6: I think.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i doubt that the whale is the correct model. not all protein , from our pov, is created equally, a webtard with a few satoshi to his name, does us no good
mod6: Well, I can agree, we need to get the word out.
mircea_popescu: i don't know of any method besides filter feeding. and do you know what's the primary ingredient for filter feeding ?
asciilifeform: this is why asciilifeform has serious headache , re the heathen component -- currently i've nfi how to appeal to them in any way at all
asciilifeform: for a sec i was thinking 'hmm wat'
mircea_popescu: i was being sarcastic.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 07:57 mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description."
asciilifeform: what's the smart discussion there? i'm not seeing it
asciilifeform: entirely correct, i was not even able to persuade'em to join #p
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 01:50 asciilifeform: here's a sample of convos b/w asciilifeform and heathens ( whom he knows irl, over yrs ) : 'why didja put it in UY, bw costs 4x moar than in usa and cia will still steal yer iron eventually' ; 'i have to do what!? to get server in the rack?!' etc