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mircea_popescu: put your offer in
the book, if it is of
this nature of a firm offer, and wait and see.
mircea_popescu: jurov seems
the
trade'll unwind. in fairness, you can't at
the same
time
try
to snipe bids you like, and be upset you don't see as many as you decided you need.
phf: return, if
there's value in s.nsa output
phf: i find
the framing odd, i
thought purpose of s.nsa capital was
to assist ascii in his b-a aligned, but essentially personal endeavor, which might potentially have a return. somehow it
turned into "pay ascii by
the hour". if ascii doesn't want
to work on cardano, it's not a b-a way
to coerce him, but if
the project still exists, is being worked on,
then money will be spent when
there's something
to spend it on, and
there will be a
☟︎ jurov: mircea_popescu: i am actually
trying
to hire someone, but for
that need
to shift part of s.nsa stash
BingoBoingo: Aha,
this really gets
to
the meat of
the problem. Impatience with fiat not dying fast enough for any of us
to buy Nevada on a whim yet.
adlai wonders whether
the problem is "investors have come
to expect", reminiscent of: "if
this is not what you have come
to expect, please adjust your expectations"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo except he doesn't seem
to want
them ; and besides, what confidence does a bum inspire
to be a chief engineer ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and if alf specifically won't show up in
the employment line, an exactly fungible equivalent surely will.
mircea_popescu: i dun happen
to want
to run yet another of
those ventures, myself. but others do, and i'm sure if you're one of
them you can go open an office in sf, hire head hunters and proceed apace.
mircea_popescu: jurov lettuce not be naive.
the alternatives here aren't
the alternatives we perceive we would prefer. it's either he's a free man and does it as such, or else he's a peon like al schwatz describes in
that very well written piece.
BingoBoingo: It seems
that
the answer
to
the S.NSA problems is getting alf food stamps and section 8 housing.
ascii_shmoocon: but yes, it could easily happen 10x faster, and i'd be lying if i said
that I didn't know how...
mircea_popescu: jurov did
the foundation ever spend anything, i forget.
mircea_popescu: what's
the hurry anywaqy,
the republic has infinite
times.
mircea_popescu: so i don't
terribly favouring
the "quickly! spend!" approach. but
that's just me.
mircea_popescu: there's a lengthy list of various fiat-based stuff
that
tried
the "low
time, high money" approach.
they all failed and had
to be rolled up in ever-larger failed ventures, usg style.
jurov: oh, i am already doing it as foundation
treasurer it has much better ratio :D
jurov: what is
the ratio?
jurov: except you would not accept any money cuz you don't want
to pay
taxes etc.
mircea_popescu: you're more
than welcome
to prefer a different
time/money ratio, and even start a competitor.
mircea_popescu: you'll notice
that while it
took a very long
time, s.nsa did not spend a lot of money.
mircea_popescu: you're also wrong in imagining
that anyone does anything other
than in
their own
time.
mircea_popescu: you are wrong in
the part where you presume
to decide whether what other people do is needed or not.
jurov: well
the situaiton is
that "person who will handle
the operational, research and
technical aspects of
the venture" does it in his own
time and own money anyway and whole s.nsa is scarcely needed
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, is phuctor back online ? it'd have been a very convenient answer for me
to give a few lines above.
ascii_shmoocon: possibly i'll have
to reach into sofa cushion and give
the coinz back
phf: "raise capital
to pay developers"
mircea_popescu: and from
the looks of it investors are starting
to have had enough, eh.
ascii_shmoocon: as it is, snsa is somethng i do on
the
train
to and from 8h of garbage
mircea_popescu: there's no merchants left in
thsi world are
there. whole fucking raft of culture and its knowledges, gone from
the world.
ascii_shmoocon: if
there were 1000x moar of it, you would still barf at
the idea?
ascii_shmoocon: but would not even feed me for a whole year, if it came
to it
mircea_popescu: jurov well company sells shares, until it puts
them
to some use it holds on
to
them. what else can you do ?
jurov: is "holding coins" in
the s.nsa contract?
mircea_popescu: and im not sure what is a more productive use of bitcoin
than holding on
to it, but ymmv.
mircea_popescu: well as described in monthly letters, all sorts of
things
jurov: what is
the product?
jurov: and
the coins aren't going
to be used prioductively anytime soon
ascii_shmoocon: in fact
there is a reason
this is a recurrent motif in afterlife myths!!
jurov: how is my relationship with s.nsa "coexisting productively" ? i can either negrate alf, or cause price
to plummet yet further
mircea_popescu: and i've yet
to meet anyone in an airplane crash who was ready
to fly.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 20:10:40; mircea_popescu: when a butt-ugly wench
that should be
thankful if she ever gets laid for free imagines herself above what kim kardashian /
the very peak of her profession actually make, it's indisputable
the self-valuation ran amok.
mircea_popescu: inept whining
to
the degree
that "people might, and how do we know
they won't" and etc are not germane.
that's why
there's
the wot and fore
that matter when's
the last
time you ate soup with a
turd in it ?
mircea_popescu: 2. decentralized world, and powers of varying magnitudes coexisting productively is an ~ecological~ problem. of exactly
the nature of "don't shit in
the soup bowl".
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to get back
to
things : 1. a
thriving middle class means very strictly, ruined-usg-everything as well as scandalously oppressed orcs.
this is what it means,
this is what'll happen because middle class is not negotiable.
BingoBoingo: I'm already
trying
to unlearn it as best as I can without relapsing
BingoBoingo wasted
too much of my life reading a piece by Simon Edhouse of David
Thorne fame. Copholarchaeologist can find it
themselves
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon i'm pretty firmly dedicated
to having spectacular sex with any and all mps. why kill each other ?!
mircea_popescu: but hey, if you have some way
to speed up alfie i'm all ears :D
mircea_popescu: jurov if you want now,
the offer is -11%. if you want +10%, you'll have
to wait and see.
ascii_shmoocon: nature doesn't make'em often and
they
tend
to kill one another..
jurov: how do i fix
the
timescale? by abducting ascii_shmoocon
to north korea?
mircea_popescu: other
than, of course, "easier
to be lazy and
there's welfare anyway".
mircea_popescu: jurov yes well, generallty
the way investing works is
that you can either fix
the margin or
the
timescale.
jurov: and 200`000 @ 0.00029000 but i don't expect
that one
to be hit any soon
mircea_popescu: jurov
there's whatever, 50k at 10 under par and 200k more at 50%. how much did you sell or what exactly are you discussing here ? where's your sell bids at ?
mircea_popescu: the degree computing "science" degraded, a woman's a much better model for a computer
than any sort of nonsense
that sterile homosexual
turing came up with !!11
mircea_popescu: next you're going
to say love is a fantasy, and so is liberty, and
then ima say knowledge is a fantasy and you'll what, agree ?
jurov: who has
the coins
then?
mircea_popescu: for one
thing i'm a fucking minority partner in
that venture!
jurov: can i haz it
tomorrow?
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, i've been spending so much effort
trying
to prevent exactly
that sort of
thing it's nigh on
taxing friendship.
jurov: and how do you propose
to have 15k independently wealthy? dependency is better strategy
mircea_popescu: they're ~=
to
the french "nobles" at versailles. circus act.
mircea_popescu: ascii_shmoocon no, because none of
them can actually do anything.
mircea_popescu: where you can get 1% of
the world's wealth in a room, but if you want 10% you need a small city. etc
ascii_shmoocon: and
there is already a lizard caste, may even number 15k...
mircea_popescu: instead of
today's arrangement where you can fit
the nominal owners of
the world in a fucking room, whereas every fucktard worth ~0 out
there derps about how "black lives matter" as if obviously his did,