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diametric: deep bruising and lacerations, as in they were beating her severely enough to cause bleeding.
pete_dushenski: not like this retardation is sustainable, so enjoy prosecuting jaywalking and other trivial non-crimes, canada, enjoy it while you still have oil and trees and fish as slaves to make 'everyone' worthy of due process.
pete_dushenski: as one would expect !
pete_dushenski: mod6: mine's churning away as we speak !
mod6: pete_dushenski: ya, as soon as we get a couple of people confirming that v99996 builds for them correctly, we'll throw it into deedbot, but thanks!
shinohai: I know the patch applied, because bitcoind -? shows it as an option
ascii_butugychag: anybody else suffer the same problem as shinohai ?
mod6: Now, with mine bitcoind, mine just comes up without setting any flags at all as 99999. so maybe try without any commandline flags first.
mircea_popescu: http://funcall.blogspot.com.ar/2009/03/not-lisp-again.html << actually this is splendid, as a narrative. esp the part about derivatives.
mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf well yes but using v as an ideal object vs using v as applied to the world's most patently deranged pile of cathair and wet noodles.
mircea_popescu: note that (as per discussion today and intention throughout) your z should really be stated as z1 a' -> a'' ; z2 b -> b'
mod6: thanks danielpbarron -- hey please give this a try if you can. I figured that you might be a good one to simplify the steps and up date the wiki as soon as we get some confirmation that all is good with the script
mircea_popescu: actually, there's a cartoon of all thiongs that best illustrates what a blackboard is as a device of thought. lemme see if i can fish it out\
ascii_butugychag: there is also 'what follows is N bits which will behave AS BITS' or 'what follows is M bits which are launch code.'
phf: i remember there was a pretty big stink when firefox was magic sequencing xml files as rss feeds years ago
mircea_popescu: “We see the Slashdot community as a vibrant community made up of industry professionals and enthusiasts that are extremely passionate about tech, tech news and discussion, many of which have been active and engaged for over a decade,” he added.
mircea_popescu: “Our plans for Slashdot include supporting the mission of Slashdot’s slogan, ‘news for nerds, stuff that matters,'” he said. “The site has millions of loyal users that visit and engage on the site each month, and we want to do the things necessary to keep Slashdot positioned as the best technology-centric news and discussion site on the web. We do not plan any radical changes, and will keep the opinions of th
ben_vulpes: as did i
mircea_popescu: well i'm not willing to stake on that, because what the fuck do you know we'll discover. but at least as an expected ideal, yeah.
ascii_butugychag: i see nothing wrong with cleaning up classical error handlers, etc, so long as it is done in line with the flow principle described earlier.
mircea_popescu: the best way forward, imo, is to restructure it as 1) one large patch consisting of nothing but the return fixes and some smaller patches doing the rest of the stuff built on top of that.
polarbeard: punkman: yes, the rube-goldberg pipe was inteded to be used as a nohup'd tail on debug.log
mircea_popescu: the point is that people running bitcoind have a whole array of measures, which mostly work as cat logfile | mess
punkman: polarbeard: the thing usually runs as a daemon
polarbeard: mircea_popescu: the patch ended up being a bit verbose, yep, but it made sense to me fixing the messages as I was adding metadata, that's why I didn't add filtering, to not add actual logic to an already pretty big patch
ascii_butugychag: i got one as a gift from an old chum
mircea_popescu: so plox, restate that as a chain.
mircea_popescu: . i'm with ben_v (and apparently ascii too) in that it's really best practice to make patches small and issue-focused. it's not just a matter of review, it's to ease future rebasing and so on. as antidesign it may seem to you personally on the basis of workflow, this is one of those things where individual has to take a small step back to allow society altogether to exist.
mircea_popescu: nothing of course prevents you from taking z and rebasing it as a first level node off x.
mircea_popescu: phf nothing in the physical situation as you describe it indicates that. nevertheless, the implicit meaning in how the topo sort owrks is that you need a to a' for b to b' to be meaningful. this could be because one is .h and the other .cpp, fopr instance, or becauise other stuff is coming later or for any other reason
ascii_butugychag: doable yes. but in the same sense as the thing i just did, was doable.
adlai: slime is a massive turd, most of which is totally irrelevant for shiva (unless bitcoin-os is planned to serve as yet another example of Greenspun's 10th)
ascii_butugychag: as a cultural institution.
adlai: maybe they didn't use the words 'fungible' and 'cog', but it was justified as what junior devs need to pass interviews
mircea_popescu: (different field, but same principle - you to this day can't beat literature as read at oxford cca 1880ish, just like you can't really beat it from mit cca 1960. the latter branch is obvious here, but the former'd be just as obvious in a literature-powered ba)
ascii_butugychag: mod6: i mark the demise of mit as the moment when they abolished the sicp course
ascii_butugychag: adlai: 'a slime' in the sense of plugging an emacs session straight into the interpreter, with 'eval-region', 'eval current sexpr', as well as separate pane with repl, etc.
adlai: ascii_butugychag: yes, i've been following along quietly. not sure what you mean by "a slime", literally interpreted this is rather meaningless as most of the swank-backends is highly CL specific stuff... i guess you mean a less literal interpretation :)
mod6: as far as comments in the vpatch that are mearly just for archaeological or annotative purposes, i think something could be done here especially when we get our own diff/patch.
ascii_butugychag: as it is, a single day's worth of shiva took a fucking week
mircea_popescu: now, one obvious solution (wasn't obvious to me at the time what it was a solution to) is to INCLUDE COMMENTS in the patches, like i did with my only signed patch i didn't really intended as part of a final pressing
ascii_butugychag: (and, as i explained very early on, cycled are an error, and anyone attempting to introduce a graph cycle deserves a good thrashing)
ascii_butugychag: look at 'pressable' pull-handles as: degrees of freedom.
ascii_butugychag: a non-lazy programmer is about as useful as a sedentary sprinter
ascii_butugychag: it isn't about time as such
mod6: b-a has honest and knowledgeable people who care about the innerworkings of the technology, on a low-level, as well as on a meta level.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 how would you rate working with b-a vs working with job people ? are we just as enervating ye t? << this beats anything else I've ever encountered by a wide margin.
mircea_popescu: hey mod6 how would you rate working with b-a vs working with job people ? are we just as enervating ye t?
mircea_popescu: mod6 somehow in my contorted worldview what i just described does count as "push button"
mod6: and that is not a one-button-push solution as you asked for.
mod6: so the script as it currently exists, creates these directories:
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 07:42:24; polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can have whatever weird lisp "1" you wish for as long as it evaluates to 1 lol
mod6: so I'm going to have the script reference ~/.wot -- this seems like a resonable place to put it -- again, V will not expect it to be there, so an additional param is placed in the V command as such:
mod6: All: Stand-by I've made some updates to the script referenced in the wiki as to drop in the latest version of V (with the latest 3 patches in the mirror) - im gonna test it, then post it here. It'd be good to have some of you test it too.
ascii_butugychag: as you probably know, my original interest in 0.5.3* was ~characterization~
ascii_butugychag: (as my instructions note, it is necessary to rename a directory after pressing tinyscheme-genesis to end up with the shiva subdir in shiva patch)
ascii_butugychag: which does not allow file rename operation except as a megatonne of add/subtract-lines
BingoBoingo: mats: AMD tends to have ECC as an available option in all of their chips except the consumer stuff, and even then it usually isn't the chip where ECC is precluded.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 07:42:24; polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml
asciilifeform: none of those hooks are 'give to other people'-quality as of yet
jurov: and the version field as just advisory indication which is the more recent patch
polarbeard: it truly is, as what value it has, it's just a step into better debugging capabilities, for this patch I've not added new log lines on purpose but I plan doing it for the next
ben_vulpes: this'd probably be best delivered as 2 vpatches: one where you rearrange the deck chairs in the log messages, and another where you muntz out the rotator
polarbeard: I've timestamped and categorized trb log lines, as well as improved the messages and removed (seeming never activated) destructive log rotation, here is the signed patch: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/961aa315c69b89d2e613 in case somebody with a decent reputation wants to review it so I can submit it to the ml ☟︎☟︎
mod6: as discussed yesterday, barfs a bit pressing out the tree on the tinyscheme patches because of the timestamps: http://dpaste.com/05QQ9KD.txt
mod6: i'll give it a go as soon as I get the soba out and test the PVS.
mod6: feel free to send what you like as far as tinyscheme.
mod6: it'll contain the fix from yesterday about the strictness of one of my regex's when matching up seals to vpatches; the change to look for the .wot dir in the current working directory by default (as well as .seals); and lastly has the post-press hash checker function also.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387980 <<< as it happened to have been started in these very logs... i guess he must've. ☝︎
jurov: in same vein as isis gpg pubkey
jurov: From the PDF:" The new data suggests that, as the body of keys grows, so does the percentage of keys a ected and that the simple step of abandoning 1024-bit keys for 2048-bit ones may be less e ective than desired.
ascii_butugychag: so long as white man supplies the equipment - yes
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: and manufacturing, as india is even stealing foxconn plants from chinaland.
ascii_butugychag: there's plenty india can do that usa chokes on - such as actually producing pharma cheaply
pete_dushenski: "Not only can it not be trained, not even to the modest degree bravery and valor could be trained into the knight, but it exhibits a very active antieconomy of scale!" << applies to 'art of forgetting rubbish' just as well.
ascii_butugychag: may as well otp then
assbot: Facebook Reaches New Highs As Money Laundry Spins | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0mAj5 )
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Did you give me a post with a number off by a factor of 1000? http://qntra.net/2016/01/facebook-reaches-new-highs-as-money-laundry-spins/#comment-43691
thestringpuller: contains such l0lz as:
mircea_popescu: could work as www form... possibly better than mail.
thestringpuller: at that rate you might as well just make http server similar to mpex and accept file payloard there that are signed
ascii_butugychag: sure as fuck better
mod6: i think it will, as long as I can get it tested. i haven't played with that one at all, other than compiling and running with it -- gives a version of 99999 by default.
asciilifeform: as mr o predicted in '08 aha
mircea_popescu: anyway, his discussion of oil is pretty much afield. for one thing, inventories are way the fuck up (tho i don't expect he has an inkling of a clue as to how to look it up, and besides - so much easier to pronounce stupid shit), and deliveries are actually stalled by the buyers!
mircea_popescu: to be specific : any item, no matter what sort of item, as long as it exists in some sort of context, no matter the context, has some parts drawn under the pressure of that context.
asciilifeform: he has whole book on why folks should accept it as boat.
mircea_popescu: only someone who has never sailed in his life would describe that abomination as a boat.
asciilifeform: engrish as she is sp0k3n
asciilifeform: anyone who bothered to think for five minutes. and yes, 'basic money' appealed to me as a student, because 'what can it possibly cost to feed maxint folks like me, almost nothing' but this is a classic partial differentiation mistake
asciilifeform: he only response will be an echo, as tumbleweeds blow across the abandoned oil fields.'
asciilifeform: 'A similar problem exists with the biggest futures market in the world: in crude oil. Here, traders have been having a merry old time taking advantage of a notional glut, driving the price of crude lower and lower. They could drive it as low as $1 a barrel, but then what? The problem is, nobody on earth can produce oil that cheaply, and so a day will come when somebody will demand delivery on their $1/bbl crude contract, and t
pete_dushenski: not quite, "Facebook reaches new highs as laundry machine kicks into high gear" should be removed entirely
deedbot-: [Qntra] Facebook Reaches New Highs As Money Laundry Spins - http://qntra.net/2016/01/facebook-reaches-new-highs-as-money-laundry-spins/
mod6: they should have signatures that are named as follows:
jurov: if so, it was eaten as antispam protection (to prevent someone taking any existing clearsigned doc and repeatedly sending it $maxint times)
mod6: so im highly tempted to actually just rename the seal files in the mirror for Programmable Version Strings and the Malleus Mikehearnificarum, but will resist. you should probably just re-post as annoying as that may seem.
mod6: however, yeah, as you noted, your patches dont press out probably quite right because of the timestamps