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asciilifeform: picture is consistent with 'monkey unplugged then went to smoke', i.e. 100% packet loss for ~4m.
asciilifeform: i recall 1 previous similar, ~30sec long, last yr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this 1 was a piz-wide outage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours was specific to dulap ( where phuctor db was being walked just as mircea_popescu happened to load ) , recall that other boxen were unaffected
asciilifeform brb,teatime
asciilifeform: ( or did mircea_popescu divide by 0 an' crash before got to that part..? )
asciilifeform: i.e. demonstrates that understands answer is 'yes, noshit'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, he starts with rhetorical 'but how could be political' then proceeds to show entirely edible concrete example
asciilifeform: fwiw it's possible that the 'hm, i'ma unplug, then go smoke, and then plug in' took place upstream of piz.
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: ( when asciilifeform was a sysop, never took 4 whole min to move a live cable. but whoknows, orcs )
asciilifeform: the likely thing is that someone somewhere physically moved a plug.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha, dulap likewise not reset
asciilifeform: i.e. defo not a mains current outage.
asciilifeform: outage was ~4min long. asciilifeform did not even lose his shells. (tho was long enuff for fleanode)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope, this is from a box asciilifeform physically sat on, gets reclocked regularly
asciilifeform: Sep 25 15:56:32 * trinque (~undata@unaffiliated/undata) has joined #trilema << marks end of outage.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform noticed ~2m after
asciilifeform: moar precisely, tho, Sep 25 15:52:30 * snsabot has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) << from asciilifeform's local (new york time) log
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: roughly 10min ago
asciilifeform: wb BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to make inquiry at piz house , see if they have an answer re dafuq , e.g. 'today we vacuumed the switch'
asciilifeform: mine appears to be 100% current ( haven't seen re lobbes's yet ) , diana_coman invited to pipe from there.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc you had a student write a db differ ? is this posted ? could then find why yours is missing 1ln
asciilifeform: correct
asciilifeform: snsabot dun appear to have missed any lines in #o during the mystery-outage
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yours is missing a line somewhere >day ago
asciilifeform: see e.g. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/ossasepia?istart=1003800&iend=1003942 vs http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-raw/ossasepia?istart=1003800&iend=1003942
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty strange, seems that they fell outta sync ~before~ this outage ?!
asciilifeform: would be good if didn't have to be done w/ bare teeth, but i'ma do, brb
asciilifeform: diana_coman: loox like i'ma have to resync in #o tho.
asciilifeform: pretty interesting outage, too, net pipe gone for 3min or so (boxes still up, so not mains failure)
asciilifeform: no one spoke on other chans , and i turned the crank in time. but we're gonna want to automate these.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937944 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937944
asciilifeform: let's verify:
asciilifeform: snsabot re synced via diana_coman : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1937934&iend=1937941
asciilifeform: dulap unreachable for 1st time since year+ ago when bb elbowed the mains cord
asciilifeform: paging BingoBoingo !
asciilifeform: achtung panzers! piz pipe down ?!
asciilifeform: the current algo, for thread-completeness.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if anyone can think of a cleaner way to parse the 2 types of link ( [][] and naked htt.. ) than what's given in asciilifeform's reader.py , i'd like to hear about it. ( presently there's a quite ugly 2-step transform, as apparently it is impossible to regexp-transmute a grammar w/ 2+ patterns in 1 step )
asciilifeform: could, naturally, force ~any~ text found in the 1st clause of a [][] pair to linkify, but will give yet entirely diff flavour of brokenness in other cases
asciilifeform considered how to get 'naked' links to work, but concluded that it's prolly undecidable
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937913 << btw these need the 'htt...' for the parser to fire
asciilifeform: imho notbad schoolb00k summary.
asciilifeform: system that runs on Windows.'
asciilifeform: aking the proposition of free trade futile. Whether or not Drepper is aware of the political implications of the of his technical decision is irrelevant to the fact of their existance. Nevertheless, there is a belief by technologists “educated” at ITT and the public equivilants that software can exist outside of politics. As a result the US has a legal system that runs on Word, a financial system that runs on Excel, and a voting
asciilifeform: for the l0gz: 'Years ago, a “technical” decision was made by a core gcc developer named Drepper to break static linking. This means that no useful binaries can ever execute on Linux without dynamically linking to certain libraries making the proposition of distributing signed binaries futile, making the proposition of secure software futile, making the proposition of Bitcoin futile, making the proposition of sound money futile, m
asciilifeform: electronics fella. meanwhile went an' learned greek.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he was at some pt 'tomservo'
asciilifeform: and a++ z80 !
asciilifeform: seems to have grasped various points as he lurked.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in castles, 1 of diana_coman's students has some imho some notbad pieces on his www.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937867 >> 'Director, National Socrates Agency, Romania; 1995 – 1997' << lol, yet another 'nsa' i had nfi about!111
asciilifeform: + pinout .
asciilifeform: subj photo.
asciilifeform: with the modest ram, not a rk competitor, but potentially useful for other applications ( has 3 serial ports, so can eat FG ) ; runs 'pogo'-style linux, so can stuff even classic gpg in ; can have nic plug attached, so potentially even host small net proggies ; pulls coupla milliwatt, so could work in radio relays or similar.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in world of chinesium : 'lichee' co. is selling a 2.5x3cm arm7 w/ 32MB on-chip an' various periphs , for 7 $ in qty .
asciilifeform: aka вредители.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these new 'spies' aint tryin to bring back seekritz, but instead simply spread rot, a sort of bipedal smallpox blanket. seems to work
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937874 << seems like the termites they sent, work approx as well as spies ever did
asciilifeform: graveyard orbit eh.
asciilifeform bbl,teatime
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937828 << outta curiosity, why not let the +1 people speak if they wake up ? ( or is idea that returns from grave oughta go straight to castles )
asciilifeform: it's come to where it almost makes sense to recap'em ~straight out of crate~
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937738 << i admit, not yet seen one since '90s where it wasn't the cap
asciilifeform eats log...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: normally i get ~0 comments for weeks on end on my www; then in 1 day half dozen, and remembered 'could actually keep track if had recent-comments...'
asciilifeform: wb mod6 !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as the brits did, neh. no one picked up an' walked way with india
asciilifeform: ^ replacement bot.py is ready, gotta actually cycle it in when folx asleep...
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: neato
asciilifeform: * feedbot has quit (Quit: ...) >> spyked ?
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'recent comments' box added to asciilifeform's www. ( phplogy exercise; but generally gaping hole, imho; nao filled. )
asciilifeform: interestingly, ye olde stochastic logic theoretically gives this for all gates.
asciilifeform: ( if fuel is not a concern, fly all 10 and xor'em!1111 -- in all seriousness, rng is perhaps the easiest part known to man where to implement redundancy )
asciilifeform: atm if you want a FG for use in mars probe -- gotta do it sovok-style, take 10 and test in the desired conditions , pick the champ.
asciilifeform: ( primary headache with higher grades of part , is ~availability~, rather than cost per se (tends to be +10/+20%) -- if yer baking a small (less than 10,000) run, need 'cut-tape' purchase, which usually only exists in 'commercial' grade )
asciilifeform: ftr FG was made of 'commercial', to keep cost reasonable. tho i've selected random samples and cooled to -20 / heated to +60 ; passed tests. but item is ftr not made for use inside freezer or oven.
asciilifeform: there are fine gradations inside the 'classes' also (chiefly degradation curves vs temp, e.g. in vreg , de-rated in re max tolerable voltage spike, or hrs of expected life, or both, at high temp ) , it's a quite gnarly biz
asciilifeform: components since '70s traditionally sold with 'temperature class' stamp : 'commercial' (saddest; 0-85C) ; 'industrial' (-40-100C) ; 'automobile' (-40-125C) ; 'military' (-55-125C, sometimes moar)
asciilifeform: the 'clock speed race' tempted vendors into cutting corners (i.e. 'new cpu 2x as hot but we'll use same room-temp-rated parts around it because Who Will Notice!11' )
asciilifeform: indeed; tho most of these feature konsoomer comps
asciilifeform: dunno, i have such things as sgi 'octane', dec 'alpha', from late '90s, that still run w/ orig. components
asciilifeform: typical example.
asciilifeform: apropos historical : '90s workstations ( hp, sgi, even some crapples ) sometimes had mechanically-swappable vreg+caps modules.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha it's a dead cap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fully expect that early 2000s mb's will do decade+ unless one hammers nails with'em
asciilifeform sees these 1-2x/yr
asciilifeform: in other noose, ECC event on dulap. 'Corrected error, no action required.'
asciilifeform: fwiw the 1 asciilifeform is sitting on just nao, is going on 14 yrs ( albeit recapped in '17 ) of 24/7 run
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if not a mega-seekrit , what was it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how many yrs do you typically get out of those mobos ?
asciilifeform: interesting , possibly, detail, the performers weren't entirely 'apolitical', tended to make light of the clergy/nobility , so nailed somewhat like mircea_popescu's moscopol & co.
asciilifeform: iirc this is how bagpipe disappeared in ru.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 1600s ru, the church had an episode of rampaging stupid, and ended with ban on not only performing gypos but , for a time, all musical instruments. the bear specialists converted to straight brigandry, adding to already formidable head count of thieves/brigands.
asciilifeform: subj, illustrated.
asciilifeform: ( in ru was entire 'genre', медвежья потеха ('bear amusements') , but ~extincted in 1600s )