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BingoBoingo: Getting high never changes: "My conclusion is
that
the
togetherness of
things in a common world,
the law of sharing, of which I have said so much, may, when perceived, engender a very powerful emotion;
that Hegel was so unusually susceptible
to
this emotion
throughout his life
that its gratification became his supreme end, and made him
tolerably unscrupulous as
to means he employed;
that indifferentism is
the
true outcome of every
PeterL: did he pgp sign
that statement?
jurov: PeterL: never late
to v-ify
PeterL: <danielpbarron> yes, and when you say l:f:p and I look it up, me must be looking at exactly
the same code << shouldn't chapter/verse be pressing:file:line ?
BingoBoingo: me has recently started rereading school he drank and pissed out of brain with fresh eye
to discarding
the retarded stuff.
PeterL: Was
that
the original "called
the election
too early", or was
there one before
taht?
BingoBoingo: Also distinct from
the Dewey defeated by
Truman
BingoBoingo: Not Melvil
the library Dewey, John
the Original Obama Dewey
BingoBoingo: America's chance of having a philosophical
tradition
though died between 1910 and 1920 when James died, Dewey was lionized, and everyone
treated James as fringe religious
thinker and not rebuttal of
the Hegelian.
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, nobody is such an enemy of black achievement as
the political party using color as a lever on
the public
treasury.
BingoBoingo: Then
there's
the black American philosophers who were largely discarded by socialists and comoonity organizers.
BingoBoingo: "Classic American Philosophy" consists of Peirce who was cotemporaneous with James and did some interesting logic stuff. James who wrote
the best American rebuttal
to Hegel. Dewey who ruined everyhting with socialism.
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: It's build on a generic
thing forked and genericized from evangelical group refugees. Influenced heavily by William James. WHo would have
though studying "Classic American Philosophy" would have been useful for understanding anything.
danielpbarron: heh
that means V could grow
to
the size of planet earth
jurov: just use
three word codes.
that would be defo
talmudic
☟︎ danielpbarron: yes, and when you say l:f:p and I look it up, me must be looking at exactly
the same code
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: for some reason i
thought it was built on generic evangelical something-or-other
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> i have no idea what
these are <<
Texts from my new cult
teaching me sobriety.
ascii_butugychag: danielpbarron:
this is a mega-point, and my original was
to have a wwwtronic
thing where you could point
to an individual place in
timespace
danielpbarron: if you want
to
talk about V like you would
talk about
the Bible, you need hooks
to point
to (like chapter verse). so in V
terms is
this signed patch and line number or something?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> but you would ideally like
to have another, 'unauthoritative' guide. << Model repeated mostly successfully with other
texts. i.e. relationship between
the Big Book and 12&12
ascii_butugychag: and yes,
the ultimate city fire code is your own, screaming, flaming half-corpse
ascii_butugychag: but you would ideally like
to have another, 'unauthoritative' guide.
ascii_butugychag: yes,
the only CONCLUSIVE guide
to
the mine field is...
the ~blam~
ascii_butugychag: the 'talmudic' view (of which my summary is by no means an expert one) is
that
the margin notes are like a map of a mine field
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron>
the closest
thing
to notes
that i recommend are
those atruechurch articles and his writing is mostly just comparing what false
teachers say
to what
the Bible says, complete with many references << AHA, but what is
this?
BingoBoingo: Mebbe
this really is more of a jew project for pete_dushenski or another member of
the
tribe
danielpbarron: the closest
thing
to notes
that i recommend are
those atruechurch articles and his writing is mostly just comparing what false
teachers say
to what
the Bible says, complete with many references
danielpbarron: i would say
that people seeking attunement should read
the source and not
the notes scribbled in
the margins
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 15:59:27; ascii_butugychag: after a certain point,
there oughta be a new genesis.
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: danielpbarron's
thing got perma-pressed and regenesised !!
BingoBoingo: Scripture only is useful for
the already attuned, but for people seeking attunement, accessory
texts offer introduction guidance, and hopefully attunement with
the canon.
BingoBoingo: Like mailing list as concordance
to v chain
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: But consider v or a piece of v software like Bitcoind as a bible analogue. What language describes
things
that go around a bible.
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Never seen
talmud in
the flesh but pulled my chumash off shelf jsut now
to make sure still here
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: A guide
to bilical/religious
terms useful for understanding software
danielpbarron: i don't get it; you want me
to write a bible or something?
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Going
talmud instead of western church doesn't shit on luke
ascii_butugychag: ty BingoBoingo. and i'm a little surprised
that nobody (not even pete_dushenski) mentioned
talmud yet
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: If v is used
to handle a canon, what sort of language accompanies
things
that surround a canon
mircea_popescu: #b-a can always be
trusted
to ferrer out crushingly impossible
tasks for people more or less alligned with
their interests.
BingoBoingo: ;;later
tell danielpbarron Given your proclivities... perhaps you can do a draft manifesto for using language
to describe relations between v-ified software and
the
things
that surround it.
BingoBoingo: later
tell danielpbarron Given your proclivities... perhaps you can do a draft manifesto for using language
to describe relations between v-ified software and
the
things
that surround it.
BingoBoingo: No reason
to adapt PowerDerp language when
there's already words for handling canon and accompanying accessories
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... <<
technically
the ml is a soft fork on v chain ? :D << I
think of it as more a concordance for
the v chain
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 you wanna write
the [implementation] part and i bitch at you ? seems a better approach
than
the reverse. << haha, ok. i probably wont get a start on
this until later
tonight
tho. hope
that's alright.
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2016 16:08:48; jurov: mod6 if it can validate a signature (by name, NOT by scanning all files), it will add
to its v mirror
mircea_popescu: should any
tim swanson want
to show up later, it's rather
trivial
to !s anyway\
mircea_popescu: nah, enough
to have
the sort of crud in
the logs, no need
to put it in active db
BingoBoingo: Likely
though considering it harmonizes with his
twatter's noise
mircea_popescu: what's
the progress on
this deeply uncontroversial
technical solution ? hm ?
mircea_popescu: here's an idea :
there's an enormous amount of crucial data coming from all arab speakers
that muricans should sit on a fucking pike from now on. because satan and such reasons.
mircea_popescu: it hasn't happened yet!
there's a pile of data about how people UNINVOLVED in bitcoin in ANY capacity want
to "improve" it, preferabvly in such a manner
that
their continued uninvolvement is less
to
their own detriment.
mircea_popescu: "When such an enormous amount of crucial data (on
the need
to raise
the blocksize limit) is ignored,
that is done at
the peril of
the project." dude what is with all
the derps ffs.
ascii_butugychag: apparently!
they are not kept in some specially designated zoo
ascii_butugychag: i will note
that
the few actual women attending were creatures straight out of mircea_popescu's okc articles
ascii_butugychag: nah but some other ru kid stood up and said 'your algo was broken no fewer
than 3
times, do i invest now or wait for 4th' or approx.
this
ascii_butugychag: on account of
that schmuck at shmoocon who was peddling a group-theoretical crypto algo, quasi-proprietary and patentalicious,
that was more or less stolen verbatim from maslennikov's book...
☟︎ mircea_popescu: >I have a long history of having a keenly skeptical eye, I have solid critical
thinking skills, and I bat away wacky
theories all day long. I have NEVER, in any forum, posted any comment of any
type in regards
to bitcoin,
this is my first one- I believe in speaking humbly,
thinking deeply and acting bravely.
mircea_popescu: "all p programs correctly evaluate whether
they
terminate"
ascii_butugychag: i intend
to use it
to demonstrate
that, e.g., all 'p' programs
terminate.
ascii_butugychag: my first and probably last encounter with a mechanical proofatron
that isn't immediately barfalicious in any way
mircea_popescu: thinking atm something along
the lines of "enough set
theory
to be able
to define an algebra"
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu:
there is unlikely
to be anything you ~really want~ at
the bottom of
that pile.
mircea_popescu for
the first
time in lyf regrets he's not been paying much attention
to
the whole pile of proofola.
mircea_popescu: one just has
to correctly make
the statement of
their incorectness in a proper formed
T.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag i'm creaming my pants at
the notion
that footnote 2 is actually provable, mathematically.
BingoBoingo: skin in
the game
than you did, because if I remember correctly you never foresaw
the spectacular growth of
the bitcoin network, never
thought it would work, and
therefore did not really have
that many coins yourself)."
BingoBoingo: loller "Hi Mike. ... If I was a handler for an organization
that wanted
to insert an asset into
the bitcoin community, someone like you would be
the ideal candidate. Someone
that young people, new
to
the community, naturally respect and will listen
to. Strange how you've spent so much
time cultivating your standing with people like
that, while your reputation plummeted among
the people
that understood
the network (and had far more
mircea_popescu: mod6 you wanna write
the [implementation] part and i bitch at you ? seems a better approach
than
the reverse.