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assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 14:38:49; mircea_popescu: who the fuck wrote grep so it NEEDS newlines ?
mircea_popescu: seems to me the conjugate separation is a rather universal solution
ascii_butugychag: gotta love especially the part where 'you did not break our system, but a weak variant which we for no good reason give to all testers!111'
ascii_butugychag: (even the volkischer beobachter makes fun of'em)
ascii_butugychag: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/why-algebraic-eraser-may-be-the-most-risky-cryptosystem-youve-never-heard-of << lulzy piece re: the crypto charlatans i saw at shmoo
thestringpuller: ;;later tell cazalla miss you mah nigga. wish I could stay up late enough with you to chat.
adlai: letter emerged from my first impression upon seeing their latest babble
adlai: (fwiw the self-styled ABC is a super-secret facebook group called "advanced bitcoin" where all recent discussion seems to be about the bitcoinclassic 'slack' channel... at least they also have the policy of requiring new entrants to read 'logs', so it's not all noise)
adlai: mircea_popescu: at a certain point, you just have to stop editing and shoot the bastard
adlai: in case anybody missed this thread
adlai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo excellent choice for your latest deed
adlai: ah well. "but at least i fucking tried"
shinohai tried this as well, kinda liked some of it: http://about.psyc.eu/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell adlai "Satoshi Nakamoto never signed communications, and are is thus"
fluffypony: he's in #monero via the irc2p relay
copypaste: I guess I'll have to ask psi the current status of the project
copypaste: Perhaps no frontends are currently working, that would be a shame
copypaste: It's linked on topchan.xyz so I just assumed it would work
fluffypony: Tor says unable to connect
copypaste: http://topchanjgbabhkmb.onion/ Did psi show you this fluffypony ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.5 << got the early bitcointards pretty incensed.
mircea_popescu would actually run this thing, anyway. i'm kind-of missing /dtng/
copypaste: But before he was doing that, he was making a distributed chan using the NNTP protocol and Tor/I2P
mircea_popescu: so it's not one of those "shit me a micron" sort of jobs.
mircea_popescu: it's really not THAT hard to do, in the sense that all the needed parts already exist, even if not perfect.
copypaste: I have a friend who is now working for fluffypony and Monero on adding I2P to that coin (perhaps the work is already finished)
copypaste: I especially like the part about no centralized hosting
mircea_popescu: copypaste it'll take a while to implement, you'll have to pull in gpg too, and some other shit. but once done it does obsolete current chanology. i can't conceive who or how could run a chan anymore on anything else. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: basically, the correct way to implement this, is to have a "universal" key and have people encrypt to whatever keys they want. if they include the universal, then it's public. if they don't, then only whoever they encrypted to can see it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but you and the people who like it can STILL run it.
mircea_popescu: no longer need to host servers, bother with "laws" and similar bullshit. if people like your shit they'll run it.
mircea_popescu: just fork gnutella or whatever to serve as your basis. add a render engine, and you're g2g.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> ideally you replace the browser entirely, also. run as a sort of torrent. <
mircea_popescu: did you read the part about fuck the browser, also ?
mircea_popescu: depends which model you choose. if people encrypt their output, there's jack you can do
copypaste: I think it's a cool idea
copypaste: Then to see posts in your Level 1 WoT, Level 2 only and so on
copypaste: I see. It could have an option then to see posts not in your WoT
mircea_popescu: ideally you replace the browser entirely, also. run as a sort of torrent.
mircea_popescu: copypaste how are they forced ? you run gpg and make a key. whatever it comes out.
mircea_popescu: so like twitter-reddit on sane-tor
mircea_popescu: either way a random cs-illiterate third party would not see anything.
copypaste: ah, I see. So like Reddit then
mircea_popescu: neither of this would be anonymous - it would be pseudonymous.
mircea_popescu: the other would be push driven - people encrypt their photos to the keys they want to see them and no others.
copypaste: I don't understand how anonymity and the WoT could intersect in a meaningful way
mircea_popescu: well, you could go two ways with it. one'd be, subscription driven, like a sort of twitter. one can see any content of people whose sigils they imported and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: you could technically run a chan off v. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: however... a wot-based chan, now that may be interesting.
copypaste: Indeed, I came to that conclusion independently
mircea_popescu: honestly, chans have to be toilet paper, who the hell is going to waste the bw/hdds for it otherwise.
mircea_popescu: copypaste true.
copypaste: So archive.is's view of /b/ is not comparable to the #b-a log, which represents everything
mircea_popescu: jurov dude, srsly. for one thing, the file is 1.5gb, the available ram 4x that. EVEN IF IT READ IT AS A SINGLE LINE it should work.
copypaste: Ah ha, but archive.is is not just for /b/, and it doesn't strive to archive everything, only requested things.
copypaste: There are many reasons. Perhaps DMCA notices, perhaps the size of the archived content is too much for the derp running it to maintain, perhaps the guy running it just doesn't want to
jurov: nice how the ethereal ideal of "text" that can't be falsified in any conceivable system meets reality
copypaste: Anywho, /b/ is archived by many third parties, but the archive sites have a maximum lifetime of 18 months. After that time, an all encompassing archive always fails.
copypaste: I was getting to that too :D
assbot: The irc world is a big but very flat place. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/23cg5mQ )
mircea_popescu: otherwise how am i to know
copypaste: If you give me a few minutes I'll get to the commentary :)
copypaste: I'm quoting a trilema article for the purposes of commentary
copypaste: mircea_popescu I guess if that works. Afaik /b/ is actually logged and publicly accessible.
mircea_popescu: "Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:32:59 -0400 We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of grep" fixed my foot.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wrote grep so it NEEDS newlines ? ☟︎
assbot: #185208 - grep: very large file with no newline causes trouble - Debian Bug report logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1PD7X4R )
mircea_popescu: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=185208 << exactly this.
mircea_popescu: "anduck [10:05 PM] it certainly looks like bitcoin classic wants everything made for them, under their control, on their platforms. that's not how it works" << BUT ITS NOT FAIR!!1
adlai has done enough noise for today, goes back to signal generation
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo ^ plox to or actually... ☟︎
adlai: in other lols, it looks like m'tooms has also picked up the dope: http://pastebin.com/raw/DPPs7qtc
mircea_popescu: really, there's little point in inviting known derps. if all the dude ever did was you know, trying to find a pretext outside to talk about himself, he really belongs on myspace or whatever, not here.
adlai: i'd invite him here but that would just be too confusing what with the diastereomerality
assbot: Editorial Team ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbjfjB )
adlai: "there are always two"... master mike leaves the sith order for the private sector, so a new apprentice appears.
adlai notes, as a humorous aside, that someday there needs to be a rock-off between PeterL and PeterR ☟︎
PeterL: there seems to be a question as to the antecedent of "this rock" as to whether it referes to Peter or the previous verse
adlai not being much of a scripture expert, seeks commentary on the commentaries...
PeterL: seems to be well covered in sereval different directions
mircea_popescu: only one of the most commented bits in all the scripture ?
adlai: danielpbarron, Luke-Jr, and/or any other scripture scholars... is there no good commentary in the entire internet for Mat16:18 !?
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2016 11:59:39; mircea_popescu: punkman> twitter.com/avflox << and it's gone << wait wut ?!
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1376480 << ah just noticed all of twitter is borked ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i prolly also run cheaper, shittier monitors than all of you, and in general... i'm just a more modest fellow!
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu does not need any of this.
asciilifeform: anyway none of the thermal problems are a thing on a dirigible, which comes with free airflow.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i actually did the same thing ? mid 90s to mid 00s, i didn't evne own one.
mircea_popescu: i think ima have this printed on cards. universal solution.
asciilifeform: well i assumed that's what mircea_popescu meant by 'own'. that's how poorfags in usaschwitz 'own' houses.
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 04:27:15; asciilifeform: i, for instance, would much like to publicly register as 'anyone who walks in with my name and slave serial number and tries to take a mortgage, ever, is to be shot immediately'
mircea_popescu: pro tip : cured meats as well as grains used to be stored there.
mircea_popescu: depends whose. but anyway - you hopefully rent this sad hovel, not own it
asciilifeform: so a properly-constructed one would be ~worse~ place to park cpu
mircea_popescu: us technologee ?
asciilifeform: (boiling hot in the summer, mega-condensation in the winter, not hermetically sealed either)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the basic problem is that there are no miracles, semiconductors have a temperature ceiling, the heat has to leave as quickly as it appears, or meltdown
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got no basement ? i thought you had a house not flat
mircea_popescu: for the record, sed 's/<[^>]*//g' takes just about 1k seconds to purge a 6gb pile of webcrud into 1.5gb of pressed juice.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've intended to do this for 15 years, but it requires a dwelling with multiple stories