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asciilifeform: it is a hypothesis with much predictive power, and is not altogether different from aristotle's position on whether kings ought to learn blacksmithing
mircea_popescu: "learning to program is a fundamentally insane act."
mircea_popescu: your arguments exactly mirror a broken version of reality pushed forth by overgrown girls that are yet affraid to be women.
asciilifeform: and that this is the prime mover of it all.
asciilifeform: i suspect that learning to program is a fundamentally insane act.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu ever wonder about the scarcity of code written by sane folks ?
asciilifeform: why not visit the sanity ranch and see how they did it
mircea_popescu: why not call all variables v1 through v9000 is anyone's guyess.
mircea_popescu: that you're making up stories. for a captive audience that's easy to please.
asciilifeform: what's that mean
asciilifeform: now i've never actually met a chess-boxer. but it would not astonish me if i learned that they keep the company of other boxers and regard actual Großmeisters, who devoted their lives to chess, as effete lusers.
thestringpuller: obviously because 80 year old just wants to fuck bitches and chill.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> whenever i hear about mircea_popescu's 'free men', i think of... chessboxing. << pfff. nonsense.
asciilifeform: the freedom of the 80 y.o. retiree is not interesting for anything.
thestringpuller: question arises, "How to use freedom productively?"
asciilifeform: this applies to EVERY SINGLE CASE of 'freed' programming type i've ever met or so much as heard of.
thestringpuller: Hmmm. Seems this could be issue with jgarzik. Some like, 10 years of focus at redhat. Is "freed" from his slave labor, does nothing with his freedom.
asciilifeform: 'polymath' i suspect would describe most of the folks here. but the point i was trying to make is that in many ways certain aspects of mircea_popescu's picture in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379901 are intrinsically opposed ☝︎
thestringpuller: it sounds like you don't believe a polymath can truly exist
asciilifeform: there is nothing wrong with this.
asciilifeform: and one of the problems with 'free men' is that growing up as one tends to result in 'an aristotle' - aristocrat, who may be a very sharp fella but is not especially handy with 'slave crafts' and would normally not stoop to, e.g., programming a computer
thestringpuller: this reminds me of the heinlein quote: "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for i
asciilifeform: for the most part, nature does not deal in chimeras.
asciilifeform: yes, there are folks who are serious chessboxers. but for some reason i've never heard of such a fella winning a world chess OR boxing title. ☟︎
asciilifeform: whenever i hear about mircea_popescu's 'free men', i think of... chessboxing. ☟︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Legend has it that Potter was promptly fired, never to be heard from again. << HOLY FUCKTITS. This is my life!
mircea_popescu: for instance, 10OIl0OIl0OIl0OIl== in base64 comes to 138% more crud in "base58"
mircea_popescu: ./base58.h: // use 138% to be safe
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: and can't automate this, because will be sacked, as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388 ?
thestringpuller: my job usually devolves into copy-pasting from one terminal to another for hours at a time.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nah, that's harmless fun in comparison
thestringpuller: does that involve taking it up the butt regularly for money?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you knew what i do for money today you would barf to death.
thestringpuller: but i don't think that results in freedom
thestringpuller: you could always go the gavin route and beg MIT for money.
mircea_popescu: the man who had a working plane and no boat made himself a leaky boat that couldn't fly. then the japanese bombed him.
asciilifeform: why do you need two mircea_popescus.
asciilifeform: and he appears to have taken up programming...
mircea_popescu: from the ashes of the very alf in question or not, remains to be seen
thestringpuller: so if we provide asciilifeform 's meals then he is freed from imprisonment?
asciilifeform: and also don't wait for me to write a fits-in-head and provably non-misbehaving btc client, even though i would much like to, know exactly how, and even have bits'n'pieces sitting around. because instead of this i'm stuck doing pointless crud in шарашка, so as to eat.
asciilifeform: but don't wait for this.
asciilifeform: yes, odin could re-arrange the atoms and form a fine dinner fit for mircea_popescu's table.
asciilifeform: 'fixing' it is sorta like asking to 'fix' the dumpster mcdonalds chicken bits into an actual meal.
asciilifeform: because the notion of using this thing, or anything directly derived from it, as a long-term anything, is lunacy.
asciilifeform: i did say, in the very beginning, 'i want this in a book, as a reference' etc
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "./wallet.cpp: exit(1); //We now probably have half of our keys encrypted in memory, and half not...die and let the user reload their unencrypted wallet."
asciilifeform: it was asked to do every damn time you ask it to do anything actually give any relevant form of support to anyone?' ☟︎
asciilifeform: '...neither Unix nor Windows _actually_ support either C or C++, but they manage to make them work, with downright incredible effort. if you look inside the libraries and see how a system call actually works and how much it differs from the C calling convention and usage, you'd be a fool not to revise your opinion. and _does_ an operating system that forces the programmer to check to see whether the operating system did what
mircea_popescu: "i guess this really should start counting at -2"
mircea_popescu: then there's the case (as is here) of folk who can't get out of the fencing error so fix the code on the 2nd pass.
asciilifeform: to make debugging the case where the call was not made at all, for whatever perverse reason, simpler.
asciilifeform: so folks init a var where result of system call is stored to the value of failure
asciilifeform: you are stuck checking the result of EVERY SINGLE ONE - or praying
asciilifeform: the basic idiocy of unix is that there is NO error checking in any system call
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno how classical. perhaps in the gavin aka retarded sense of classical,
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: init to -1 is classical unixism, sorta like initing pointers to null
asciilifeform: if trb is sleeping in a dumpster and picking old razors out of the rotting mcd 'meal' trays to eat, prb is drowning in a usg paper dump
mircea_popescu: who, over the mental age of ~12, does this
mircea_popescu: all this initing to -1 business...
mircea_popescu: no idea why anyone thinks "bitcoin will take over the world". they can't possibly be talking of the prb codebase.
asciilifeform: and there is a variety of things you can coax a node into doing if you can corrupt the db; etc
asciilifeform: but there are, e.g., 101+ ways to hose an arbitrarily selected node for as long as you like
mircea_popescu: o god, the parade of magic substr addresses
asciilifeform: thing is as bad as it could possibly be without falling down at the first gust of wind.
asciilifeform: with none of the plus.
asciilifeform: nah it retains all of the minuses of multithread.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform definitely not multithreaded. which, given the strength of everything else, is a very good thing.
mircea_popescu: i should like to visit this algebra sometime.
mircea_popescu: null squared is sometimes equal to the unit!
mircea_popescu: ./main.h: void SetNull() { nFile = -1; nBlockPos = 0; nTxPos = 0; } << lulz of all time.
asciilifeform: and as i described (and i think ben_vulpes did even earlier) the thing isn't ~actually~ multithreaded, in the sense of being able to evaluate multiple requests in parallel
asciilifeform: the WHOLE THING consists of THIS
mircea_popescu: ThreadOpenConnections2(parg); << im not even including inept shit like this. clearly someone deeply understood threading.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever been in college and ended up picking up chicks you were only half interested in because it sure as fuck beat doing the work you had to do that day ?
asciilifeform wonders what moved mircea_popescu to try his hand at trbism
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyone seen this wonder http://dpaste.com/1JNBGCX ? << scary huh
mircea_popescu: before i couldn't do merchant of venice because broken tools. now can't because instead going through 10k lines dump to find the junk.
asciilifeform: until recently i used this www for just about all trb study
asciilifeform: (use the box on the right hand upper corner to switch presses)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, did we have a lxr up of the codebase or something ?
asciilifeform: the whole thing is 99+% crapolade by weight, and nobody sane dares to 'fix what works' because 'father's pistols'
mircea_popescu: i hadn't priorly noticed. what's one to do
asciilifeform: rather than #include <uint256.h>
asciilifeform: you will notice that #include "uint256.h"
asciilifeform: which thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform prior to the article i'm writing now, i had naively believed the thing is some standard library imported from whenever
asciilifeform: l0l i can't wait till mircea_popescu discovers all of the 'wonders'
mircea_popescu: anyone seen this wonder http://dpaste.com/1JNBGCX ?
mircea_popescu: holy shit the stuff that's in uint256.h ?!
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this maigc.
mircea_popescu: ie, "this cpu normally does 4ghz, i run it at 8. it's doing so much more for me than... oops, it popped. need a new cpu"
mod6: it says that during this 'Stakhanovite movement' in the su, this guy Nikita Izotov mined 607 TONS of coal in a single shift. That's ~1M folks.
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mircea_popescu: who gets to eat the clay pot or painting ?
mircea_popescu: cooking is actually an artform, indisputably, and readily the easiest to be good at and happy with yourself for.
thestringpuller: nothing beats good training! (except maybe a good beating)
mircea_popescu: ironically, none of these knew either.
thestringpuller: i wish I knew women that cooked