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thestringpuller: and I thought Linux was ideal, but it turns out even that is bastardized.
thestringpuller: I learned to code on MSVC lol. QBasic -> MSVC_6 -> Linux
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever read the thing before ?
asciilifeform: i think mircea_popescu is really enjoying this, somehow
mircea_popescu: msvc shouldn't even be fucking supported in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ./serialize.h:// There's a clever template way to make arrays serialize normally, but MSVC6 doesn't support it
thestringpuller: But this isn't feasible economically.
asciilifeform: i've never known any thinking folk who actually relied on 'public education' for any useful thing they knew.
thestringpuller: In fact when I was thinking of going into education one of the courses I took harped on the fact that the best mode of teaching is pairing a real expert with student apprenticeship style.
thestringpuller: Not with the bastardization of education being dumbed down for the so-called masses.
asciilifeform: there was never any other way to learn from other people.
thestringpuller: I guess answer to my own question, "WoT provides practical solution". If derp wants to learn, learn from trusted teacher in WoT.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there was an episode at c3 involving a box of matches, prolly what mircea_popescu was remembering.
thestringpuller: ^-well in this context you can learn correct foundation
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Matchbox | Matchbox. A three-some in the back of a car. Guy 1: Dude I hooked up with Sarah and Kourtney in the back of my car lastnight! Guy 2: DUDE YOU JUST HAD A ...
asciilifeform: if this was not so, there is no cure.
thestringpuller: So how is derp supposed to even begin to learn correctness, if he can't understand what a correct foundation is.
asciilifeform: (in that most of the reward will be reaped by others, who paid nothing)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nobody gets paid to fix foundations.
thestringpuller: Perhaps this is from consumer has come to expect mentality of everything being "flashy and pretty" but it makes me cringe cause you never have truly correct way of doing things. Just correct way of doing broken thing.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I know it's l0l cuz I spend my life making robots to do my slave labor for me. I feel bad for the robots tho. I dunno man. Working in web dev, the developers are insane. It's like everyone wants to use some new unproven technology Y before fixing technology X first that it's built upon.
asciilifeform: fwiw, unlike some folks, i appreciate this gift. sorta like when doctor tells 'you have six months'. would you rather be surprised ?
asciilifeform: no parachute, just a helpful fella telling you how many metres until your splat.
asciilifeform: there is nothing wrong with this, once one adjusts one's expectations.
mircea_popescu: you know a) the intention was to contrast it with GAY science
asciilifeform: back when the english folks were literate, they had a name for this,
mircea_popescu: what else do you expect is there.
asciilifeform: 'you aren't virile enough! go feed yourself to pigz!111'
asciilifeform: he could give a good gift to folks, matchbox that when pushed tells you:
asciilifeform: and reading mircea_popescu on certain subjects is rather reminiscent of this 'computer'
mircea_popescu: sure. so what's the problem with that ?
asciilifeform: when you push it, the word правильно (CORRECT) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so... you want to know why i'm trampling all over this grep dump rioght now ? it... it fucking winked!
mircea_popescu: this is, contrary to what everyone'd like to think, strictly unrelated to the parents.
mircea_popescu: some kids gotta ask their parents, some don't.
mircea_popescu: it has exactly 0 to do with money, because schoolchildren have no money. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu has found himself, iwthout interruption, in this position for as long as he can remember, which'd be a good three decades by now.
assbot: The Romanian language for other people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lzWJ9f )
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 17:47:17; asciilifeform: whenever i hear about mircea_popescu's 'free men', i think of... chessboxing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379925 << actually the concept can be introduced much neater. there exist two sorts of men in this world, and they are distinguished readily when an alluring woman makes an interesting proposal. some can't, and some "let's go". the principle (in reverse), is illustrated in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-41.0-45.1 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 17:47:49; asciilifeform: yes, there are folks who are serious chessboxers. but for some reason i've never heard of such a fella winning a world chess OR boxing title.
BingoBoingo: It's possible Magnus Carlsen makes the switch to the hybrid sport http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379926 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "<amount> is a real and is rounded to the nearest 0.00000001\n"
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 10:26:39; punkman: BingoBoingo: anything interesting in the jtoomim logz?
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379548 << only the absence of things ☝︎
thestringpuller: it's funny trying to see evoorhees play politician
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:38:53; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379483 << this reminds me of that "i'll be sober in the morning - you'll still be ugly" line.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey, is this a documented openssl hole ? seems it could be useful. << found this, seems like the opposite tho: http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&m=122520520421616
mircea_popescu: ./crypter.cpp- // Note as well that at no point in this program is any attempt made to prevent stealing of keys by reading the memory of the running process. << this is oddly the right choice.
mircea_popescu: hey, is this a documented openssl hole ? seems it could be useful.
mircea_popescu: BN_rshift segfaults on 64-bit if 2^shift is greater than the number if built on ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10, probably depends on version of openssl
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell beautyon what do you like about the vc wordpress anyway ?
thestringpuller: looks like irdial would rather post to medium than qntra: https://medium.com/@beautyon_/bitcoin-is-not-democratic-81f87158250a#.ybi7j38cg
mircea_popescu: ./db.cpp: // Tray icon sometimes disappears on 9.10 karmic koala 64-bit, leaving no way to access the program
asciilifeform: 'kicking the dead lion'
asciilifeform: every batch of plowing flies on the planet ?
mircea_popescu: ^inept fuckiing shit. who the fuck thinks this is how it works ?
mircea_popescu: ./bitcoinrpc.h:// Copyright (c) 2011 The Bitcoin developers
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> but we're not there yet. so far, prepping a list of magic numbers. <<
mircea_popescu: i think ima end up with fucking dead pixels that satoshi burned.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was thinking that would go later.
mircea_popescu: my display is slowlyt decaying from displaying this fucking buffer
asciilifeform: boost is used in trb for iterators, for the most part
asciilifeform: (boost exists largely because cpp is not actually programmable in without using something like boost. which has been largely incorporated into the recent standard.)
mircea_popescu: five or so steps below. but gotta start where the seafloor is, nothing else.
mircea_popescu: but we're not there yet. so far, prepping a list of magic numbers.
asciilifeform: but then realized that this would lead us into perdition
Terry4: Did you see the strategy about subsiding bitcoin miners to stay on the original BTC, (as a last case scenario to defeat any alt-chain)?
asciilifeform: incidentally not so long ago i felt the desire to rewrite chunks of trb to abolish boost
mircea_popescu: oh i thought it had some implicit termination, nm.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388&cpage=1#comment-17578 << l0l thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it\'s the stuff bee larva get fed to become sluts rather than housewives.
mircea_popescu: ./main.cpp- for (;;) << i don't get it, if it's going to do plain for(;;) why the fuck does it want the fancy boost_foreach ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Royal+Jelly | Royal Jelly. The glorious coating surrounding a cock when it pulls out of an asshole that has not been prelubed. The asshole has created a natural lubricant that ...
mircea_popescu: !up Terry4
mircea_popescu: requires being fed royal jelly to know of this!
mircea_popescu: i suppose programmers also don't get to know about respectable hatmans ?
asciilifeform: somehow i escaped this in ukr school
asciilifeform: one comes to mind, who hired germans to build him a mustard gas factory
asciilifeform: some of them were pretty interesting folk
mircea_popescu: well... what'd you call them ? seems quite apt.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ioan p. reminds me, there really oughta be some good material floating about re: the 20th c. chinese 'warlords' (as they are for some reason called in english world)
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu is correct re: that i cannot possibly have any idea ~why~ peter 1 did what he did.
gribble: Ioan Potcoavă - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioan_Potcoav%C4%83>; Ioan Nicoară Potcoavă, domn al Moldovei - Istoria.md: <http://www.istoria.md/articol/574/Ioan_Nicoar%C4%83_Potcoav%C4%83,_domn_al_Moldovei>; Domnitori - Ioan Nicoară Potcoavă - Moldovenii.md: <http://www.moldovenii.md/md/people/699>
mircea_popescu: numerous examples throughout.
mircea_popescu: this is also not true.
asciilifeform: but folks who knew the forge from the age of five, tend to not end up kings..
mircea_popescu: it's however NOT safe at all for blacksmith to entertain himself by telling stories about what peter does and why.
asciilifeform: at any rate, it is perfectly safe for a king to entertain himself by being a blacksmith, or a sailor - as peter the great did
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and even mircea_popescu apparently does, on occasion. << actually that dpaste earlier was the first time in at least 10 years.
mircea_popescu: and the idea is inept. yes i know a lot of "respectable folk". i also know a lot of common whores. and everything in between.
asciilifeform: and from mircea_popescu's articles i get the impression that his meatspace friends are respectable folk, 'high power' lawyers, traders, etc. rather than cpp connoisseurs
asciilifeform: but in all seriousness, clever folk who strike gold in whatever form, who programmed, tend to gravitate away from it - iirc mthreat is doing a sane thing, flying old ru jets, rather than dredging through cpp crud
asciilifeform: i'd be worried if mircea_popescu ~did~ see merit, would suspect that the universe is coming unglued
mircea_popescu: i can't say i see merit in any of these propositions.
asciilifeform: but as far as i'm aware, there is no biological 'programmer race'
asciilifeform: and tends to break in ways not covered by warranty, as a whole, if fails to perform it
asciilifeform: the woman, on the whole, has a biological role
mircea_popescu: still a dead end. exactly equivalent with soviet woman's conclusion that getting married is an exercise in insanity.