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adlai: ok. i know somebody respectable, competent, and so on, and he isn't willing
to give money
to people he hasn't met in person.
adlai: ok. is
there another conf anytime soon?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if someone
that's respectable, competent and so on wants
to do it i might entertain it.
adlai: if so, where's
the price signal?
danielpbarron: seems
to me it's easier
to read when you can see
the '{' and '}' line up
mircea_popescu: "i want every one
thing
to be in a single place" is a deep driver of meta-programming.
adlai: you want
to optimize screenful-legibility...
this is a convex space, but far from linear
mircea_popescu: note
that
there's a great
tendency
to condense lines by "meaning". which is what alf's proposal
to stick a && in
that double if clause comes
to.
mircea_popescu: the reason
the newline { is hated is because it eats a line. people generally want
to cram stuff in
their screens.
danielpbarron: I also prefer
the '{' on a newline vs on same line as function name. But I haven't done nearly as much coding as
those of you who hate
these conventions so what do I know
mircea_popescu: this is a significant loss
to everyone doing
things
that depend on
the difference between one item and
the other.
mircea_popescu: |(line_indenter)echo(token_separator)"hello(token_separator)world!";|
to |(token_separator)(token_separator)(token_separator)(token_separator)echo(token_separator)"hello(token_separator)world!";|
mircea_popescu: the problem is
that when you go from |\techo\s"hello\sworld!";|
to |\s\s\s\secho\s"hello\sworld!";| you really went from
mircea_popescu: how
the code LOOKS and what
the code SAYS are drastically different matters.
the code should say
the same
to everyone, but looks are unimportant.
this is
the same age old fundamental distinction between alphabet and literacy and symbolism and "creativity".
danielpbarron: because
then
the code will always look
the same no matter who views it
danielpbarron: so am I
the only one
that hates 'tab' and prefers spaces when coding?
mircea_popescu: check it out alfie, your clone with less
technical skills is running
the usg's largest bank-department.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: “Bitcoin
the currency is going nowhere.
There is nothing behind it, and if it was big
the governments would stop it,” said Dimon. <<< :))
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "nakedcapitalism" anyway.
the pompousness of
these
two-guys-and-their-hopes, 200 bucks in
the bank ventures is nothing short of exactly what you'd expect.
mircea_popescu: "Yves here. Get a cup of coffee.
This is a deep dive into how Bitcoin works from a payment systems perspective, and why
the failure of promoters and journalists
to look at it in
those
terms has led
them
to greatly overestimate its significance." << "come hear my very novel
take on why bitcoin is not disruptive because it doesn't do
the buzzword i
think i understand and for
this reason matters more
than everything else!"
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mircea_popescu: well... it's what, 650kb, so
then
the idea is
that it should be condensable in 10kb or so ?
☟︎ mod6: thought you were
talkin about
those vpatches
punkman: thestringpuller: I guess answer
to my own question, "WoT provides practical solution". If derp wants
to learn, learn from
trusted
teacher in WoT. << /me is waiting for Ada master in need of apprentice
punkman: "99% crapolade by weight" does not give hope.
The work of
the foundation is of course commendable and
there is hope
there.
mod6: <+punkman>
that's not what it gives << eh?
mircea_popescu: mod6 ah makes sense, i was working off
the prev release, which is actually incorrect.
mod6: anyway, jsut checking because I got asked about
this separately.
mod6: not sure what happened
there. maybe your local branch doesn't have alf's latest 2?
mod6: so
that should have been ok.
BingoBoingo: They can't even beg for bits-coin anymore so
they gotta beg for a bits-coin
they might eventually have
assbot: thouliha comments on Without official statement from miners and others, one should
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shinohai: "I admire Dr. Pieter Wuille’s brilliant hack
to deploy it as a soft fork. But despite being brilliant,
the soft fork Segregated Witness is still a hack. A hack is dirty. Such a
technology would be better implemented as hard fork.”
shinohai: I figured
they weren't gonna say much until an "official announcement" despite Garzik
trying
to fly over and garner Classic support.
shinohai: Hey BingoBoingo I emailed
them
twice, no one ever responded.
trinque: straight into
the shitpipe with
that
BingoBoingo: "Chun has made a concrete hard fork proposal since –
though
the details of
this proposal are not yet clear."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But
there are definitely open shit pipes headed
to
the sea. Mississippi river is prime example.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> sealed pipes from arse into
the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction. << Not sealed
the whole way, settling ponds etc
mircea_popescu: the idea
that
toilet belongs by
the pool is about as alien
to
the roman as
the idea
that
toilet belongs by kitchen sink is
to you.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and perhaps relatedly, for a long
time
the concept of
toilet consisted of a ditch api, upon which you could implement your arbitrary
toilet at any point
through placing a wooden beam\
mircea_popescu: d with another bug where
tokens were copied by reference would mean
that disabling one
token could disable it in other places, so
the outer valid macro invocation's
token would be disabled and never able
to expand again.
The bug was around step (34)."
mircea_popescu: 5) Function Macros And Recursion <<< "What ended up being
the bug in my preprocessor for
this
test case was in evaluating
the argument prescanned
tokens
that were passed
to a function macro invocation. If
the function macro being invoked contained a
token with
the same identifier as
the function macro being invoked, but didn't actually call
that function macro, it would incorrectly disable
this
token.
This bug combine
mircea_popescu: i don't
think most paradigms...
to call personal ideologies
thusly, do not allow for emergence specifically
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assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 09:34:54; BingoBoingo: But basically
this Hearnia is painting Janssens and some Obeast named "Marshall Long" as
the reasons for
the adverserial nature of ClassicCoin. Framing of course because it's what good instruments do so he can
try
to relevant himself again in six months
mircea_popescu: but yeah, re conference matchbox vs правильно matchbox, it is apparent
that
the matchsticks are more interesting
than
the box alone.
assbot: The sad state of Bitcoin code on
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