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lobbes: phew. I finally got logbot genesis up and inserting log lines into a database on my test machine. Hardest thing was figuring out the config knobs for postgres (and side-quests such as libuuid)
trinque: perhaps there's a yet more immediate route. /dev manager (eudev, w/e) is simply told to symlink /dev/random to the FG device.
asciilifeform: incidentally , knob won't 'break errything that isn't proper', troo champions of idiocy like gpg , will chug along without a working /dev/random ( iirc -- silently )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, ideally patch random.c into a fg streamer.
asciilifeform: ( observe, linus hasn't really got a kernel, just a tall pile of items like the one linked )
mircea_popescu: that's all that's contemplated here, all we really want from the rest of the shitpile is a very clear knob, which, when turned, makes everything stop working that doesn't work like we expect it to work.
mircea_popescu: neverthless, inca-kernel, be it "debian" or whatever it is, needs a way to be fucked such that it stops exposing any /dev/random AT ALL for as long as it is not exposing a fg random.
asciilifeform: my whole point was that there can be no such thing as 'native fg handling' on pc. there's always a piece of shit in the way, e.g. usb.
asciilifeform: i can describe some known dead ends. for instance, you definitely do not want to marry the thing to the pl2303. because 1) you have no way of knowing that every pl2303 on usb is an fg 2) not every fg user got a pl2303 , they get whatever cheapest chinese cable is at any given moment 3) for all i know, pl2303 will not be gettable next month, next yr etc
asciilifeform: the scheme described above, would work only as a loadable mod.
mircea_popescu: but the idea isn't for ~our~ kernels. the idea is to have an infection vector, that permafucks a linus-tso kernel into no longer working like a piece orf shit.
mircea_popescu: well if the kernel can't be patched then a patch won't help.
asciilifeform: but this is incompatible with, say, a trinque-style kernel, that dun support loadable modules at all
asciilifeform: could implement module the obvious way : takes N args, each of which must at load time be a valid /dev/ttyxxxx
asciilifeform: ( not including #include'd rubbish, of which there is a mountain, as is typical )
asciilifeform: ( for the sake of record : a non-retarded arch would do random like-so : ~as a cpu instruction~ that reads from N ~asynchronous~ ports , where N is odd, debias, and xor )
asciilifeform will admit, to having sat down to write a kernel mod for fg no fewer than 3 times, and barfed each time
asciilifeform: asciilifeform often wonders if we're doomed to make a pci fg
mircea_popescu: yeah. anyway, i'm thinking the best approach would actually be a kernel patch to destroy the extant random/urandom bs and replace it with fg
mod6: The main thing that I wanted to do was come up with a TMSR~ blessed methodology for Pizarro clients to use to fruitfully use their in-chassis FG.
danielpbarron: diana_coman, a package called sys-apps/rng-tools has a thing called 'rngd'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc danielpbarron had a roughly working hack that did what you asked for
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:05 asciilifeform: which is why /dev/random was a terrifyingly bad idea from day 1./
diana_coman: asciilifeform, in short: bridge gap until eulora's server migrates to eucrypt; not a solution to anything, nor a desired anything
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 16:11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc we had a thread even here where somebody whined that FG doesn't work as a 'totem' where you 'plug in and forget and it just becomes your /dev/random' and that it has to be actively ~used~
asciilifeform never implemented a fgtronic /dev/random replacement , quite deliberately, and iirc the reasons are in the log
mod6: Hehe, she printed them off, three-hole punched 'em, and put em in a binder, no less.
diana_coman: is there a tmsr patch/recipe for feeding /dev/random from fgs? my search of logs yielded only http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-09#1783118 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: see, that's not "one weird trick". that's how EVERYTHING works. the basic 101 of http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/#selection-233.62-233.144
mircea_popescu: trinque, let me tell you a story. so during napoleon era, for the first time "general army" was introduced, before that it was all profesisonal soldiery. huge humongous legions of draft dodgers, because really now, draft ? and napoleon standing for the "reasoning" "humanism" thingee of course introduced doctors to check whether medical claims were factual (most common amongst which, blindness).
ckang: yea seems to depend if hes in a manic state or not
mircea_popescu: but they could try a different ineffective one!
mircea_popescu: somehow at all junctures it was always "a better choice" in imperial logic to "blame bad luck", maybe execute a scapegoat or other, than identify the goldstein.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i mean consider the lengthy list of shit. sent "academician" into retirement ? raped bank new arsehole ? raped govt ministry new arsehole, and as a community project no less ? raped... mit's "media lab" new arsehole ? exposed assets, exposed toolchains, i can do whatever the fuck i please and ~NOT~ be famous.
trinque: what a life
trinque: > Terry needs like, clear evidence that there's a point to this fucking
ckang: heh yea ive been trying to come up with a good use for tensorflow
ben_vulpes: ckang: i actually think that'd be a hilarious statistics project; just clustering on skeleton segment lengths would probably be enough to assplode the leftists heads
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there's a very interesting protection factor at work, too! if you do enough things that work, you can do plenty of things that in other people would create "brand" and be immune from it! consider the bit spyked recently dredged up, http://trilema.com/2009/niste-rigoare-pentru-mircea-badea/
ckang: i think the last thing i heard weev say he was working on, was some python code to detect if a person in a photo is black or white
asciilifeform: a certified nutter is one of the 'safest' things to be, from this pov
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 18:55 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, buy him a steak.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is kinda what i was unknowingly reaching for, with the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803880 : more data to extract the understanding out of what looked like a promising vein. but in the meanwhile sleep reorganized observation for me and now it's quite fucking plain. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: now how the fuck can you build anything out of 100`000`000 elliots and 10`000`000 terries ? because that's the other fucking half of http://trilema.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/#selection-967.295-971.2 "how much does the devil have to pay you to love him" problem.
mircea_popescu: now go ahead and make it great again. HOW ? they lack the instruments with which they'd agree upon a great in the first place. collection of terries, give them coffee or not give them coffee, they'll move about like an algae bloom.
mircea_popescu: larping, yes, but not merely for fun nor profit. larping as a life philosophy.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 16:19 mircea_popescu: man acting alone is stuck with these "oh, a conclave of idiots bent on self preservation and avoiding the lowly station their idiocy warrants them holds all the power, and i'll act as man alone confronted by governemnt".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's become a fixation in the children ; now merge it with the church of self esteem and its holy youcandoanything, and the REASON http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800094 ie "smart kids" always being found with their pants down acting the "man alone" part and never learning anything from the experience is pretty fucking clear. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, 50, 100 years ago this was a great characteristic of that maybe-one-day-a-nation conglomeration in our colonies.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i'm starting to understand a lot of things about why the maga can never be, consider the gritted, unyielding, sheer determination of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1803769 ; and i've noticed my us-born slavegirls CAN NOT QUIT. even when hopeless, even when wasteful, their specific identifiable mark in whatever harem social games is they're the ones that can not fucking say uncle. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( or did, back when he had a comp... )
mircea_popescu: you can't go around pretending like he's ok. he's not ok, nor ever was, nor can ever be, but this is not so much a problem to whosoever is willing to apply formal tests only.
mircea_popescu: ckang, no, it's when his entirely deranged mental state became a lot more difficult to "hide", in the sense usual usg.zek "hides" his being raped daily, from himself.
ckang: did you catch the video of him talking about befriending a prostitute ?
ckang: when he lost that is when things became a lot worse for his mental state
ckang: i think all terry needs to be happy is a room, bed, internet, diet shasta, beer and cigarettes
asciilifeform: helps to recall that the d00d is certifiably insane tho ( lived for yrs on a usg pension for insanity. as portrayed by TLP. wonder what happened to this -- they were abolished? i've nfi )
mircea_popescu: let me say something rather... political here. so, an item caught my eye in one of the pastebins or w/e you put in : some guy saying "this bum cost me more than a gf". it entirely illuminated the problem to me : terry davis is JUST as much a perfect representative of the ustarded "brillian computer programmer" as http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-one/ is the representative of t
ckang: haha, pouring his own 2L in a restaurant
asciilifeform: esp. if you can get to the top floor of a tower.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, i've never done it in car. in a city, can get quite acceptable result with feet.
asciilifeform: it has a 802.11 card
asciilifeform: nono, recently there was a thread re actual lappy comp, with lcd etc , on same chipset
ckang: he only gets 15 mins a day of computer
BingoBoingo just had a new experience
ckang: someone did some testing of performance on the same hardware for wireguard vs openvpn on a consumer router:
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, hey, can i get a shared acct for hosting minigame's files etc ? ☟︎
phf: i think it's a common caricature of late stage bureaucracy though, one bureau watching another, which in turn watches the third, etc.
mircea_popescu: where's all this army of deeply interested folk giving a shit about some deeply disinteresting characters to be found... well, in the words of some bum, http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-305.0-305.420
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if not a full half of the aspirational 14% is firmly convinced there's MORE THAN ONE man hour / hour spent by me/usg/god/aliens/whoever specifically on their case.
phf: i started humoring him, "that's what we do", "the hunter must hunt" etc. but that might've been a mistake, because he got progressively more agitated, and i had to depart out of fear of him getting violent
phf: asciilifeform: couple of weeks ago a gentleman sat down at my table at a capitol hill cafe and after a rather brief and unremarkable small talk started asking me, why "you", which shortly turned to mean the cia, are following me.
asciilifeform sitting near usg.capitol, barking loon walks by , shouts at the top of his throat , '... i'ma tell the fucking! truth! about! what! they've done! my daddy was a commander! in ww2! with the goddamn cat! and the monkey! and reagan!'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, "gotta buy a new car"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804401 << what's a euro 5 ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 22:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: e be a good guy".
mircea_popescu: the point of trusted nodes isn't "don't link to other nodes or bad things weill happen". the point is "always have these in your connection to stay sane", because a major attack vector towards bitcoin is separation, ie get two sets of nodes adrift in different realities.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 15:43 avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804363 << i'm sure he can do a mean ragtime on that piano though, while kicking legs ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Show ends with Jack and Hannibal erotically slicing up the FYIAD fellow and cliff diving to presumed death or a cancelled fourth season of their love story
BingoBoingo: There's also a made for TV adaptation spanning three seasons which no one has time for in 2018 that turns the script into an overt love story between the FBI profiler and the Republican psychiatrist to fill time
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, hard to say no to hopkins etc. << Sure, but the original film has a much better deviant
mircea_popescu: good quality humour always includes a pinch to heaping spoonfuls of ~providing something in short supply~. the pantsuit tards translate this as "speak truth to power", but it's utter bullshit. the politics of humour are uninteresting from a humor-centered perspective ; but the economics of humor are not -- because economics was blessed by god originally with this and only this its attribute : you will forever be field-relevan
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/a-true-church-at-porcfest/ << Daniel P. Barron - A True Church at PorcFest
BingoBoingo: It may be a good block, it it will have to try getting accepted again once the node is aware of its daddy
avgjoe: so the trusted nodes list is more useful on the initial startup when there are a lot of blocks to download and it'd be easier to just have nodes that doesn't send unnecessary info (like segwit payload)?
avgjoe: ok i understand, so i shouldn't worry if for instance i connect to a segwit node, my node will try to chop off the irrelevant parts of what it receive, correct?
BingoBoingo: If the blocks are good, they are Bitcoin Blocks. If not, they are some sort of altcoin (but probably not capital A Altcoin) blocks
BingoBoingo: <avgjoe> my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks? << Unknown, generally desirable to get more connections. The idea of the list is to provide a minimum number of non-evil nodes to help you stay in civilized communion.
asciilifeform: it's a fleanode chan, reg yer nick on fleanode
avgjoe: is there a way to register the username on the channel?
avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in ☟︎
mod6: feel free to relax for a few days if you need to recover from mega-flight
asciilifeform: mod6: a bit
asciilifeform: it's a reasonably common item
ckang: hmm actually i have a few of those in use now
asciilifeform: re drives : do recall that you get a phree yearly swap, ~if needed~ .
ckang: mostly use them for esxi host, not a big deal if it dies fortunately