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mp_en_viaje: phf, quite. and, in
this statement, it's precisely
that sorta loli productivity i object
to.
phf: i don't
think cffi is much about support of anything, it's almost always "there's a gnarly C library
that i don't want
to write in lisp, going
to make a
thin wrapper around, now has support for X
mp_en_viaje: if
this is
the choice i'd rather bake loli anony
than loli veira.
mp_en_viaje: but i am also not happy about ending up with who knows what loli baked into "traditional
tmsr process"
mp_en_viaje: from
the contrary perspective : i get it
that you folk wanna write lisp.
the principal problem seems
to be
that
this can't currently be actually done
mp_en_viaje: you KNOW cffi ain't
the holy grail of ffi. what is it
then, such
that it is found in general's boot and wench's bellybutton ornament and airplane
tip
mp_en_viaje: why
the fuck would all
the objects in a purported whole wide world depend on
the same bit of circumstantial minutia.
mp_en_viaje: here's our axe. it depends on happymeal. here's enemy
tomahawk. it depends on our happy meal. and here's [our version of] antique roman amphora. it... depends on happy meal.
mp_en_viaje: here, cffi, and why al sorta
things
that needn't are nevertheless brought
to depend on it.
mp_en_viaje: kids who want a slavegirl but can't afford a slavegirl will sometimes buy a painted pillow and call it susan. but more commonly, and especially if not FUCKING FUCKED IN
THE HEAD,
they'll just watch older sis shower or something more directly separate.
mp_en_viaje: even in
the situation where a) you have
to
talk
to linux and b) you can't
talk
to linux, WHY would you make something
that eminently IS NOT a ffi,
then call
the
thing
that isn't a ffi "ffi" and
then purport
to use it ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 09:44 phf: spyked:
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05c-development-log-i.html#selection-147.0-153.252 << i've used araneida for early btcbase, i've dropped it in
transition from cmucl, but i'd say
that it's
the least encumbered of
the bunch. i don't remember it having any "administration interfaces". it's written in
the late 90s hacky style, and it's missing functionality (for example i wrote entire form parsing logic when i was
trying
to add patch
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 06:55 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911324 -> yes, it's a brick of a book but in fact not really dense or anything; everytime I haul it out of
the shelf and onto
the
table I inevitably wonder why exactly is it so heavy really.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 19:44 asciilifeform: so can haz a hypothetical contrary ? i.e. how would it have looked
to have 'standard interface'
to a
thing which itself has no intention of obeying any standards ?
mp_en_viaje: hurr durr loli veira. why is "ffi" even a
thing in
the first place.
mp_en_viaje: evetything depends on happymeal. why do
things
this way!
jurov: I disrecommend. Messed with cl-async (via vim interface) and it's hell
to debug. It also
takes over debug and
trace outputs and redirects
then nooneknowswhere.
spyked: re ffi, in
that older research I've
tried
to avoid fast-running code in favour of fits-in-head, but I'll make sure
to double-check in
this iteration.
the only www-related cffi dependency I recall was in cl+ssl, which I will remove on sight before genesis
phf: spyked: wookie is not a hunchentoot fork, it's its own
thing built around an async ffi. one
thing you might want
to add
to your list is how much ffi-ing is required, or rather how "c heavy"
the code is. for example
teepeedee2 is extremely fast, but doesn't work anywhere but sbcl and linux, because it uses all kinds of libc features.
phf: it doesn't have any kind of "architecture", so more
than once i've had
to hack somewhere deep inside request parsing code in order
to support something or other
phf: spyked:
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05c-development-log-i.html#selection-147.0-153.252 << i've used araneida for early btcbase, i've dropped it in
transition from cmucl, but i'd say
that it's
the least encumbered of
the bunch. i don't remember it having any "administration interfaces". it's written in
the late 90s hacky style, and it's missing functionality (for example i wrote entire form parsing logic when i was
trying
to add patch
☟︎ spyked bbl himself, back
to rowing in
the slave galley
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 15:23 asciilifeform: none of
these currently on front burner, but will be 9000x easier
to revive if meanwhile lobbes et al produce an edible cl 'wwwism kit'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 18:39 asciilifeform: lobbes_field: i've previously used
'cl-who', but it needs
to get eaten/genesised/frozen
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 14:35 lobbes:
though it seems like lots of people here use
hunchentoot for
that purpose, and it seems
that hunchentoot is easily modified
to interface with apache
through mod_lisp
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 12:04 mircea_popescu: someone was even going
to implement it, which is
the last i heard of it.
spyked: meanwhile, /me is back
to his regular schedule and will spend
the week processing photos, writing and planning
mp_en_viaje: so i suppose
the right
thing
to do, if ever swallowed by some mastoton or w/e, is drop one's pants and fuck
the damned
thing's gullet.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-05 23:32 asciilifeform: i suspect
that errybody with even surface familiarity with subj of hanging, knows
this
BingoBoingo: Still
the book grew
too much. Whatever useful
things are added get burried in shit
BingoBoingo: Testament
to
the additive destruction of
the wreckers.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:05 diana_coman: speaking of Barnes' Ada book: it IS very useful and I certainly do go back
to it quite often still for all sorts but it still has at
times such ideas
that I can't stand; e.g. "The reader will probably feel
that
the activation mechanism is somewhat elaborate. However, in practice,
the details will rarely need
to be considered.
They are mentioned in order
to show
that
the mechanism is well defined rather
than because of
their everyday import
danielpbarron: not really my expertise, and
the land i bought is not really fit for livestock
danielpbarron: yes where i got
the house we are "in
the middle of nowhere" but my appartment is in a college
town
danielpbarron: it's my understanding
that such a registration also comes with strings attached
that we don't want attached
danielpbarron: no, we meet in eachother's houses for church and we don't register any of
them as such
danielpbarron: well
that's my only source of income, so ya i guess
mp_en_viaje: amusingly enough,
there's a sexual paroxism pathway driven by anoxia in mammals (kinda
traditionally common male style, actually). so it's quite conceivable ingurgitated prey might ejaculate.
mp_en_viaje: as
the old adage goes,
the problem with suicides is
that
the ones
that manage are
the only ones you actually want
to have failed.