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mircea_popescu: well, at least sanely tabulated.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which - de-stupidification of the logging process would be a fucking blessing already. debug.log, srsly ? how about error.log mempool.log connect.log blocks.log for starters ?)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382232 << even the simple step of "add flag to trb to dump mempool into file each time a block is found" would be helpful atm. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382193 << i've yet to meet an electron who thought himself the ceo of the atom in question. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 0^61, which is one hell of a coincidence that it should allign so right now! (same results can be expressed looking at the schwarzschild radius, too). )
mircea_popescu: (the problem, in the simplest terms, is that for h to be constant energy and spacetime must stay coupled. as such, it's impossible to have an original singularity (aka the big bang) seeing how everything solves neatly for a radius of 0, yielding a pretty field of 0's and a pile of nondetermined constants. conversely : in planck terms, the age of the universe is about 10^61, its radius about 10^61 and its energy about 1
mircea_popescu: (actually the only sane model of physical cosmogony i know doth require shifting planck constant, if ever so shyly)
mircea_popescu: so far the score's about a trillion to 0 the other way.
mircea_popescu: catch me doing that first, wouldja ?
asciilifeform: i am picturing, one day measured value of plank's constant shifts, mircea_popescu goes back to sleep, says 'this shift was implicit all along, could not otherwise happen.' and will sleep until the very integers get up and walk around.
mircea_popescu: this conception of "novelty" is not so dissimilar to creationist's conception of darwinism. "he said my auntie's a dog!"
asciilifeform: and i suppose the egyptians must have known this
mircea_popescu: monkey-human divide cybernetically equivalent to non-recursive / recursive systems.
mircea_popescu: contemplation. that's the divide. reflexivity. once the hardware started doing recursion, it split.
mircea_popescu: and then "omfg what have i done" slapping forehead
mircea_popescu: it's a visual joke. imagine me saying "hmm, i wonder how best to do this" whille scratching the top of my head
asciilifeform: so why the german goes bald ... ?
asciilifeform: or at least a black fella singing loudly along to his headphones, without a care
asciilifeform: speaking of 'indistinguishable from monkeys', i observed that approx 1 train car in 5 has a loud, rambling nutter in it
mircea_popescu: or to put it in more familiar terms, you know why the german goes bald arouind the corona, and the romanian arfound the forehead ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. the difference between man and monkey is that man realises it's not actually worth the hassle.
asciilifeform: i'd put the bifurcation as the whole of the man-monkey divide
mircea_popescu: lest the academic has to publish to justify his high station, an' the inventor must invent, hence so many new inventions all the time.
mircea_popescu: now, whether a natural tongue or one surgically bifurcated is a change worth the mention... well... i suppose we must leave this up to the inventor.
mircea_popescu: trinque well, an argument can be brought that yours are a lot more cleaved. like, you know, you can separately desire to lay with the woman as in cuddle, to lay with the woman as in fuck her brains out, to lay with the woman as to impregnate her and so on. whereas poor simple he, just lay with the woman.
asciilifeform: the b00kz become associated with thing-that-anchors-you, i suspect
asciilifeform: i suspect that i will go the same
trinque: why is the egyptian man's desire for food, a place to shit, and women to fuck different from mine? and if it isn't, whence this idea that my motivations are manifold (and advanced!), his few?
asciilifeform: my father had a world-class library, left it behind, today cannot stand the idea of amassing any such thing
mircea_popescu: possibly a contributing factor in my distaste with the damned things.
mircea_popescu: eh, period in my life, i'd go to a party and inexorably leave with a half sack of books.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, not long ago had a brain-melting mindfuck, browsed maths crud on 'amazon' rec list, and noticed b00k, 'wait a sec, where did i see the author' - turns out, in email box
mircea_popescu: teh stubborn is strong with this one :D
asciilifeform: this being said, i wouldn't mind visiting limonov's (or mircea_popescu's for that matter) planet where folks practice bare-handed head-chopping from sunrise to noon, and measure neutron cross-sections, compose symphonies, after dinner
mircea_popescu: there's another great difference, which may be easier to ford. socialism - sacrifice now for later paradise. this - is enjoyable. now. so much so i have not the least care if paradise or no paradise, or as the old man of the mountain said to allah,
asciilifeform: wake me up when the he-men create so much as a 'aa' battery.
asciilifeform: the totality of the record.
asciilifeform: has same to stand on as 'communism results in misery' etc
mircea_popescu: and this has nothing to stand on.
asciilifeform: as amply confirmed experimentally as anything i'd care to think of.
mircea_popescu: but no. your thesis is that "can only result in" goatfuckistan.
asciilifeform: thesis is that 'the spartan speaks with his sword', untempered, results in goatfuckistan.
mircea_popescu: but that's not your thesis.
mircea_popescu: and from a number of other things.
asciilifeform: and the sheer mega-virility of pashtun can be likewise measured in 1,001 ways.
mircea_popescu: so what did you see to make this equivalence stick ?
asciilifeform: in approx same way and to same degree as i know that electron exists.
trinque: mircea_popescu │ eventually, if nothing was cut off, duck in the yard can no longer resist the call of ducks in the sky and takes off. << I'm going to go ahead and carve this one into the inside of my skull.
mircea_popescu: how would you know this ?
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 01:09:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381724 << if anyone in afghanistan etc were not fully employed in countig rocks and fucking goats thus managing to find their way here, i'd definitely finance a project to fly a quad to a drone and use the old komet trick
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 03:40:38; mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live.
mircea_popescu: eventually, if nothing was cut off, duck in the yard can no longer resist the call of ducks in the sky and takes off.
mircea_popescu: but this is not unlike retarded mother bringing boy up in skirts.
mircea_popescu: now, it's true that miseducation can bring one up to think himself the other kind, whichg CAN be remedied.
asciilifeform: wai wut? up to whom ?
mircea_popescu: it isn't up to them. some people dont' care. some do. they can't change this anymore than you can be a woman.
mircea_popescu: your earlier mistake was to suppose it's UP TO THEM.
asciilifeform: i cannot say to this, but only take off my hat.
asciilifeform: i suppose if asteroid cleaned everybody's clock but the hydrothermal vent microbes, mircea_popescu would (from his dirigible!) still say, 'nothing novel, planet still crawling with whatevers, snore'
mircea_popescu: not like photons went you know what ? this planck constant's boring, let's get a new one.
mircea_popescu: the only news in the world is the history you didn't know and the measurements you took incorrectly.
mircea_popescu: so asteroid. what sort of novelty is that ?
mircea_popescu: yeah that.
asciilifeform: on trilema ?
mircea_popescu: you ever read that thing on the latin language ?
asciilifeform pictures mircea_popescu blasting off to mothership, tells chums 'this planet is a mega-snore, nothing ~ever~ changes there, let's get outtahere'
trinque notes the former SU guy's fixation on novelty
asciilifeform: and my arse still takes up space in 3 dimensions, big whoop
mircea_popescu: you still value what you lost more than what you gain by that loss. you still need stimuli to grow geometrically for subjective sensation to progress arithmetically.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly nothing to change. what'd you change ?
asciilifeform: i can boot up fortran and set 1 to equal 2 also.
trinque: it's simply staring at the tool and thinking of it in isolation, rather than inside the human process in which it is used
mircea_popescu: do you miss the things that'll be discovered after you die, perhaps ? nobody cares. you happen to have seen telegraph. they saw the complex calculation of how to pi, and counted them very civilised for it. big whoop.
asciilifeform: i know full well that mircea_popescu can arbitrarily redefine 'a thing' for there to be none.
mircea_popescu: telegraphy is not a thing.
trinque: they used to have feet. so what?
mircea_popescu: who cares, it's the same ass.
mircea_popescu: so what did not repeat ? the shape of the woman's pants ?
asciilifeform: but meanwhile somebody wiped arse with the papyrus.
mircea_popescu: "Whether 'tis nobler in the mind, to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or to take up arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing, end them ?"
mircea_popescu: besides, the discussion in civilisational terms is besides the point. i guarantee that there was an alf in upper egypt bemoaning the vagaries of fate in the following exact terms :
asciilifeform: and the fossilized skeletons of the jurassic keep better still.
mircea_popescu: their shit keeps better than your shit does.
mircea_popescu: you flatter yourself if you imagine there's more difference here than there, to an archeologist so distant in the future.
asciilifeform: perhaps a better example would've been the 10,000 yrs of australian abo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the egypt point is in re: the fact that the 3000th yr was quite like the 4000th and entirely possibly indistinguishable even to pro archaeologist
mod6: danielpbarron: thx for the heads up
mircea_popescu: (if for instance your aim is "population", mind that they started on a very narrow base. hard to beat.)
mircea_popescu: also you'll be very hard pressed to argue that 5000 years of egypt were less than 5000 years hence.
asciilifeform: wake me up from my grave when, e.g., the gunpowder fashion, dies down.
mircea_popescu: fortunately or otherwise, few live the millenia required for most of it to wear off.
mircea_popescu: they work hard at lipsticking the pig.
mircea_popescu: the inventor is in this matter very closely related to the fashion designer.
asciilifeform: it is the job of the inventor to not permit the endless loop.
mircea_popescu: history is precisely an endless loop of the same thing. also, it has to be.
asciilifeform: history is not, fortunately or otherwise, an endless loop of the same thing
mircea_popescu: anyway - the exact same sort of people sifted to the top in the su as do anywhere else all the time. which is why yeltsin didn't survive and putin did.
mircea_popescu: right. but generally fambly kept the place, for mere conviction. it had to be political-wrathful to dislodge.
mircea_popescu: even those got rescinded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not if 'sentenced to 100th km'