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mircea_popescu: so
then
the model here is
to have fundamentally speaking a pogo/arm-ish level bitcoind/os,
that doesn't really natively build on anything without a laundry list of finicking ?
mircea_popescu: obviously, as a general
thing, people MIGHT consider running a bitcoin node on any box
they run.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform logically : a) you won't want
to ssh into
the node and do your bash
there (providing it even has ssh).
this means you'll be stuck using something else on
top of bitcoin-os.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for
the first
time so far it occurs
to me we might be setting ourselves up for failure here. because of
this support / os issue.
adlai: pete_dushenski: more helpful
to say where you encountered
the deadlink :)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the problem with
that is
that well... nobody'd want
to bash in bitcoinos. so we'll end up with a very strange catamaran of a stack.
assbot: You need an Ambien
to sleep because you bought
the
trappings of power instead of
the real
thing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1PuVgJ8 )
mircea_popescu: mod6
thinking about
this,
the problem slowly becomes
that not only does bitcoin gravitate
towards bitcoinos, but it puts some serious problems
to any attempt at wide support.
mod6: because
they can not use buildroot... at least, I don't *think*
they can, easily at lesat.
they could
turn on Linux Binary Comapt mode and perhaps some other kernel
tweeks. would need
to be looked a.t.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so basically we can't use our convenient makefiles
to build
the pressed source ; openbsd people gotta finagle
their own build chain
to get
the same source
to compile and link ? << and further more,
they'll never have
the same build process like we want.
BingoBoingo: Also Openbsd base system is complete enough
to make internet on mars
adlai notes
that
the
three laws are phrased as guidelines for builders, rather
than code for execution
mod6: so a minor annoyance
there. but alas.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (~different~ braindamage
than in linux, and
this is appealing
to some people) <<
This is pretty much its appeal
to me. I have modest needs as far as necessary hardware and necessary software go.
mircea_popescu: so basically,
this should prolly be on
the wiki or what.
mod6: this is because BSD's sha/md commands spit out
the digests in different way
than on linux.
mod6: and further,
the changes
that we wanted
to make with V (where we mechanically check
to see
the patch was applied correctly by checking
the hashes) also will not work on bsd unless a bunch more alterations are made, but
this is a side issue.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it'd be a horrid mistake
to
try and merge
the notion of a press and
the notion of a makefile.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, seems
this will have
to be separately maintained.
mircea_popescu: mod6 so basically we can't use our convenient makefiles
to build
the pressed source ; openbsd people gotta finagle
their own build chain
to get
the same source
to compile and link ?
mod6: however, if he and I work
together, we could possibly get some patches in place
that would check
to see what
the local environment is and if __BSD__,
then apply, otherwise, do not.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 01:49:23; ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
the inclusion of
teachers and educators with auditory and relative business skills pertaining
to contemporary Black musical styles." << relative business skills? what are
those
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 00:41:21; mod6:
The hang up here is
that, it basically can't be mirrored in
the same place as
the rest of
the patches; simply because when one sync's up against a mirror your changes will break
the rest of
the
tree.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain
this
to me ? <<
the idea is
that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V
to build inside of
the rotor (a linux
thing) -
the source must be compatable with
that. phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with
this.
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: we can't be
the first people doing a multi-platform release.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 00:41:21; mod6:
The hang up here is
that, it basically can't be mirrored in
the same place as
the rest of
the patches; simply because when one sync's up against a mirror your changes will break
the rest of
the
tree.
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
that Oberlin College stop functioning as a gentrifying institution"
ben_vulpes: DEMAND immediate firing of: ... Gerri Johnson...for
their rude behavior
towards Black Students
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
that
the workload given
to employees be reflective of
their abilities...should not be given a workload
that
they cannot handle."
☟︎ ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
that each worker,
temporary or permanent working for
the College Dining Hall Services be given a meal every work shift"
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
that Black student leaders be provided a[n] $8.20/hr stipend for
their continuous organizing efforts around
the well[-]being of Black people on Oberlin's campus, city and beyond" << man
that is some low-dough shit
BingoBoingo: And seriously Oberlin historically has been a
trailblazer in surrendering
to such demands
ben_vulpes: i
thought
there'd be about another 5 years before
things got
this nutso
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 16:56:17; PeterL: does
trb debug.log grow infinitely?
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
that a mandatory professional development program be developed for faculty across departments in
the College & Conservatory
that will help facilitate
their udnerstanding of
the ways in which racial capitalism, settler colonialism, and other forms of violent oppression inform and shape instructional methods for
the disciplinary content of
their courses. We further DEMAND
that
the content of
this information be integrated in
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
the renaming of
these specific academic buildings"
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND a change in
the fundamental ways
that we asses knowledge at
this institution, starting with a student evaluation of
the effectiveness of
the grading system. We will have oversight over
the results of
that evaluation. If
the results state
that
the grading system is not reflective of
this institution's student body, we DEMAND an immediate change of
that grading system."
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND an online database
that outlines
the deadlines, dates, and forms critical for
the successful academic journey of Black students" because we can't be arsed
to figure it out ourselves, read syllabi when
they're handed out or at all, and because of course knowing
to do all of
the above is something we were not prepared for in life and
this must be rectified at
the expense of everyone else attending
the school.
adlai: tis
the new AD[h]D
adlai: fwiw friend who
teaches classics at a usg 'prep school' attests
to having had a student excused from any and all performance standards due
to APD (which stands for 'auditory processing disorder')
☟︎ ben_vulpes: also looks like
the storied Oberlin conservatory is about
to
turn into Rap Kollege
ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND
the inclusion of
teachers and educators with auditory and relative business skills pertaining
to contemporary Black musical styles." << relative business skills? what are
those
☟︎ adlai: anybody know
the guy?
the site is *almost* functional in absentia, but not quite enough
adlai: ;;later
tell mike_c candle charts outta sync, comment moderation constipation?
adlai fails,
twice in a row.
too fuck
to drunk? !down
ben_vulpes: oh
those are hardly even worth mentioning
shinohai: i just have it cat
the latest blkxxx.dat over once every 12 hours.
mod6: you're just using it as a storage bin for
the
time being?
shinohai: and ~ 90% complete
to pogo backup of blockchain
mod6: does
that bring us
to 8 nodes now
mod6: anyway, getting a buildable openbsd is a priority of mine.
there are just bigger
things in front of
that for
the moment.
mod6: having an alternate
to linux is important
to me. and i was able
to build a static binary, but obviously
this doesn't work with
the rotor (linux only buildroot). i did build it with
the stator.
mod6: yeah, i
think i need
to walk you
through
the exact steps. i did get it
to build, and fully sync a chain even. was very happy about
that.
ben_vulpes: but i probably hosed something on
that machine way before ever making it
to building
tri.
ben_vulpes: fwiw i completely failed
to get
the openbsd patch
to work.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: i do believe
that i understand now. << cool!
mod6: so either, we need a separate repository for openbsd patches (not a bad idea), or we should just put
the new openbsd vpatch in
the mailing list for
those who need it -- let
them just add it
to
their V 'patches' directoriy by hand