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usagi: Maybe a little at .3

kakobrekla: im afraid this is going to be a pump and dump

usagi: bidwall is up on nyan.a if anyone wants out

mircea_popescu: one sec i'll fish up a link

teek: mircea_popescu: i just read the wiki on tranching but am a little fuzzy.. can you explain how it works here?

Luceo: Use a VPN :D

mircea_popescu: there must be a popped ponzi first for people to learn.

mircea_popescu: Luceo and for a good reason.

Luceo: or a ponzi

Luceo: mircea_popescu: If you offer 15% outside bitcoin they'd call it a HYIP :P

usagi: And if I close sales... the price shoots up, and no one buys a or b

usagi: It's the same with nyan, everyone buys .c, NO ONE buys .a or even .b

usagi: TEEK.A is fully guaranteed

usagi: A three tiered CD?

mircea_popescu: mkay so i'm about to offer a proper CD, three tiered.

usagi: Well Nyancat Financial is a bank, Mircea

Chaaaang-Noi: pirate is saving a whole lot of peoples asses right now:)

usagi: .C will keep getting 8%+ a week until pirate crashes and that will be that

mircea_popescu: something like a coupla k's ?

Chaaaang-Noi: yeah, sadly i now have a data plan and pay monthly

Chaaaang-Noi: he might be a girl, im not sure to be honest

MoneyIsDebt: I know a white guy in Taiwan. It's not Usagi, so it must be the other one.

dub: a white guy called serena

usagi: A white guy in Taiwan

Chaaaang-Noi: i know you are a white guy in tiawan, i also know you are english

usagi: There's a blank.

usagi: Then you would need a photo, and that means you have to pay off nefario.

teek: 4 btc if you include a picture of usagi with a shoe on his or her head

Chaaaang-Noi: and lose a potential sale? lol

usagi: Consider it a game, if you win, you will win 1 btc

Chaaaang-Noi: i know a guy who started pulling up shit on him 3 months ago

usagi: I just said I'm not involved with the situation. CPA will do that kind of work but only on behalf of a client, when we have a judgement in hand

Chaaaang-Noi: yeah i dont like to travel but it not so good just sitting in front of a computer all the time either lol

kakobrekla: and i just sent some btc to get some a few min

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kakobrekla: i made a swap profit :p

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assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 66 @ 1.167 = 77.022 BTC [+]

Chaaaang-Noi: i see part of this is someonedid not pay a fee so its not being added, oh fail...

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 3 @ 1.167 = 3.501 BTC [+]

Diablo-D3: we're going to crash into a planet made of solid gold and you cant stop us

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Diablo-D3: everytime someone sells a share of DMC for less than 1 BTC, it makes the market function.

Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: btw, as a side note

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MoneyIsDebt: I had a bid at 0.001 :)

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 73 @ 1.1668 = 85.1764 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1.1668 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1.1667 BTC [-]

DeaDTerra: Looking to trade some shares, have a look at my portfolio and see if there's anything you are interested in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq6Ug2ODt-l2dC13WldWaTBWQVNYZWRwVDgtQmhzUkE#gid=0 Or if you want to sell then pm me and I will see if I am interested in that asset :)

mircea_popescu: it looks like something made by a noob scammer.

Chaaaang-Noi: i saw bitfloor but there is a delay for getting verified or something

Chaaaang-Noi: well.. a way

Chaaaang-Noi: what is the best way to get btc into a us bank account?

mircea_popescu: so all you need is maybe a coupla hundred to float anything.

mircea_popescu: "Today, it's all gone. You get a whale show up with four million in a suitcase, and some twenty-five-year-old hotel school kid is gonna want his Social Security Number."

smickles: if only I had enough btc in my pocket to not care about floating users a few k coin here and there when I know there's 6 confirms on the tx

smickles: but, as you said, it's not a perfect solution to have my users wait on your manual deposit confirmation

smickles: we're talking about a program here. all i'd have to do is a line that summs what I expect user accounts balances to be and compares it to the stat

smickles: as well as having a system to point out 'out of the ordinary' withdrawal request to me

smickles: I was planning on haveing that be a manual process

smickles: k, so maybe that's too broad of a statement, but,

mircea_popescu: im not doing it till i have a definitive and godly version.

smickles: yeah, but the speed of you proposal come at a cost

smickles: it would be a lot less complicated if there were some kind of deposit section

smickles: mircea_popescu: are you so unwilling/unable to have a line in the STAT similar to the Dividend receipts section which shows recent deposits?

mircea_popescu: that'd be a problem. get margin maybe ?

mircea_popescu: get a little payment confirmation slip

smickles: hmm, if i wait to credit their account until I see the tx on the mpex addy, plus wait to see that amount hit my mpex funds, would that be enought to thwart a malicious user?

smickles: and if I just wait for that specific amout to show up in my mpex account, i'm sure a clever scammer could engineer a way to fool my system and basically get a duplicate deposit

mircea_popescu: it;s a distributed currency after all.

mircea_popescu: why would you have the user send a deposit directly ?!

smickles: mircea_popescu: if i had some confirmation of funds being available in a STAT, i could safely have the user send a deposit directly

mircea_popescu: you keep a btc balance. once he's cleared with you you can use your btc balance on mpex

smickles: mircea_popescu: then a user could take advantage of me

MoneyIsDebt: I meant a sell off bitcoins on mtgox

smickles: i'm just going to have to do a bunch of addition and subtraction to verify actualization of deposits in order to have mpex sub-accounts, arn't i

Ignatius-otc: MoneyIsDebt: from what I have witnessed yes, a mild selloff

smickles: ug, mircea_popescu, what am i missing here. Is there a way to see that a deposit has made it into an mpex accout other than seeing that the account balance is higher?

MoneyIsDebt: is there usually a selloff when pirate investors get their interests?

kakobrekla: we just saw $12 for a moment on gox

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 11 @ 1.167 = 12.837 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 4 @ 1.14 = 4.56 BTC [+]

assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.1399 = 5.6995 BTC [+]

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mircea_popescu: (you can make synthetic frns from a fixed-rate bond like you favour and a swap, you know)

EskimoBob: you keep their BTC and other sec a collateral if the options start to go rally bad

mircea_popescu: btw, im curious if anyone owning mining bonds at any point ever owned a perpetual frn.

mircea_popescu: smickles especially a hosting that won't pull a linode

smickles: besides, the whole thing would be a bot anyway

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