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mod6: which is why i added
that part.
ben_vulpes: ideally such a
thread would result in a philosophical statement
that'd guide future flags.
mod6: and asciilifeform, keep in mind
that
this is a *must* fix. i
think
that is vastly important
that we discuss
this in channel.
ben_vulpes: oh come now asciilifeform like we don't waste
time on vastly more
trivial shit all
the
time
ben_vulpes: i have a hard
time giving a shit about
the ergonomics when it's covered in finger-snipping blades already.
mod6: polarbeard: keep in mind
that i considered all of
this over a week ago -- and decided against it. so yeah, i have put a lot of
thought into
this.
polarbeard: 0 is
the default, you may give -forceS=0
though, but
that has no effect
mod6: because it causes confusion
to have -forceS=0 (low) and -forceS=1
mod6: right, i'd prefer not
to use an int.
mod6: remember, i want a default state
to *not* require a flag at all.
mod6: how would one set
this singular boolean?
polarbeard: therefore
the need for
the conditional
mod6: am i not using
two booleans, polarbeard?
mod6: If we simply get rid of 'fHighS' and 'fLowS' and replace with say 'fForceS',
then how can we differentiate between entering into
the high or low if block?
mod6: I believe we need
two flags.
mod6: so what we want, is
three different ways: no force one way or another, force high, or force low. remember, i originally didn't want
to do a force high at all. but since asciilifeform requested
this, i'm entertaining
this option.
☟︎ polarbeard: that's right, I only mean
to simplify usage (if
that matters
to anybody)
polarbeard: that's still
too flags, I searched before asking :)
polarbeard: can't it be like a
three state flag? 0 -> no enforce, 1 -> enforce low, 2 -> enforce high
polarbeard: mod6: honest question, why using
two flags if
they can't be used at
the same
time?
mod6: And
then we can re-align post release.
☟︎ mod6: I'm prefectly happy
to reconstruct
the patch with spaces
to stay in alignment with
the current (albiet unwated) spacing scheme.
mod6: So
the difference in '
http://dpaste.com/2EZJVXA.txt' is
that
the block of code in Sign() is spaced with
tabs. And
to Mr. P.'s point it should probably be all in a file or nothing. Otherwise its mis-matched. Some with spaces, some with
tabs.
mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes et. al., any further
thoughts if we should clean up
the code alignment (currently with spaces) post release and do a one-time clean up with
tabs?
☟︎ trinque: yep, but
this was just connecting
to whomever he wanted
trinque: whereas on AWS, blackholed
to death
trinque: odd
that it's
trivial
to figure out where I moved
the deedbot- node, yet... works now.
ben_vulpes: unless
the kid's up at 4 or whatever, i rarely actually interact with him.
ben_vulpes: our
timezones are so far off he just leaves me messages
ben_vulpes: very interesting problems
that crop up in
the curation of
the wot.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> yeah cuz crazy argentines,
they're like excited sheep in
the airport. << haha, it was a big crowd. You picked me out pretty quick.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 14:40:14; mircea_popescu: "About a week ago,
this pretty girl messages me out of
the blue and we hit it off. We
talked
that night up until 5 AM and we have so much
things in common. > She loves Star Wars > Plays video games > All other super nerdy shit > Never met a girl like
that" << holy shit,
this "all
that much" evaluates
to almost 0. wtf is wrong with people.
jurov: kek, airship alternative
to
trans-siberian
train.. now
that'd be some achievement for hipsters
mod6: Being honest and forthcoming about matters will always go much father with me
than anything else. ftr.
mod6: To me,
this all felt like subversion. I didn
polarbeard: ben_vulpes: I asked somebody if assbot can be forced
to forget
the nick, it can't
mod6: For posterity: Do not do
this. If you get a neg rating and you care about your wot ident, do be an adult and do as I said. Lot less problems and drama
this way.
polarbeard: maybe one day, I don't kiss in
the first date
polarbeard: and definitely not ready
to
tell more about my
true and only self
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: coulda kept
the nick, but registered a new key and we'd be in
the same spot.
mod6: And I understand
that part
too Mr. P.
Typically,
this is what seperates us from 'dog'.
mircea_popescu: mod6 well basically, cause
the concept of "a man" is pretty much
the key.
polarbeard: yes, I understand, it wasn't my intention
to change nick, I nuked my keys
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6, polarbeard, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: y'all follow? <<
this is my 0.00000002: If you don't
trust a man, no matter what his keyid is
today, how can i ignore
that and
trust a new ident?
The correct
thing
to do as a man, admit your mistake, and or ask for forgiveness and move on. Simple as
that. We're all adults here.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: hey can you confirm for
the log
that you understand what's going on with your various idents?
mircea_popescu: yeah cuz crazy argentines,
they're like excited sheep in
the airport.
mod6: heh,
there was such a crowd at
the exit of
the security area, me and Mr. P. walked right by eachother I
think.
ben_vulpes: i'd seen
the photos from c2, 'twas how i knew you and mike_c
ben_vulpes: same way everyone else singles you out of
the crowd lol
ben_vulpes: what if
the person showing up is not actually
the keyholder
ben_vulpes: heh
that is an interesting hole in
the keysigning party i guess
jurov: you
think
that deaf idiot at
the conference was really me?
ben_vulpes: (while it may appear
to /you/
that
the mega participants in
this cult are disembodied names, /we/ all know each other -- names, geographic locations, general
type of employ, but /you/ do not have
this [or i'll point out] any pedigree here)
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 2 days, 23 hours, 5 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get
that
thing out
the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
jurov: ;;later
tell mike_c just an idea - if
the rating is public, you can link
the logs
ben_vulpes: provisions are in place for noobs
to fuck up and recover.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, i
think you nailed
the matter, can be laid
to rest.
ben_vulpes: it's not submitting patches any more, so i don't see
the point of
the discussion.
ben_vulpes: what harm'd
there be in
the reading i ask
ben_vulpes: someone can show up
tomorrow and claim
to be
tiberius,
tat, smickles, and until
they sign with keys
that prove it
they're either joking or some other
thing i don't understand
polarbeard: all I can say is
that log rotation is daily business on most decent systems, but if anybody has a rational answer against it I would not remove shitty-ghost-rotation from
trb
polarbeard: which I
think comes by default in all linux distros, idk about unixes
though
polarbeard: ben_vulpes: sorry, I missed
that one, I was
talking about a
tool like logrotate
mircea_popescu: <jurov> merely
tasking
them
to understand existing code is sufficient. "and no, you're not allowed
to redo it nor pull libraries" << jurov has it.