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mircea_popescu: ok, ok. i take it back.
asciilifeform: afaik, tinyscheme is currently the smallest (in re: complexity) standards-compliant (mostly) schematron in the world
adlai: asciilifeform: so tabs vs spaces was not bad enough, and we also need lisp-1 vs lisp-2 in Bitcoin?
adlai: srijan: fwiw it is possible to update ratings in private message, and afaik the only person who can give you the full data on thata is kakobrekla
asciilifeform: (but unfortunately not usable for this experiment, lacks support for i/o 'ports' and, more importantly, arrays)
asciilifeform: if you really want to know how this thing works, i recommend reading minischeme (the smaller item this was based on)
asciilifeform: clratom is a negated mask that is used to un-atom something, which only happens during the mark cycle of gc
asciilifeform: the comment on T_ATOM is a lie, it is used for the predicate is_atom and in a bunch of places
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is with gc
mircea_popescu: +#define T_ATOM 16384 /* 0100000000000000 */ /* only for gc */
mircea_popescu: +#define T_IMMUTABLE 8192 /* 0010000000000000 */
mircea_popescu: +#define T_SYNTAX 4096 /* 0001000000000000 */
mircea_popescu: +#define T_MASKTYPE 31 /* 0000000000011111 */
mircea_popescu: +#define TYPE_BITS 5
mircea_popescu: +/* ADJ is enough slack to align cells in a TYPE_BITS-bit boundary */
mircea_popescu: ok, this i gotta quote.
felipelalli: But I loved the idea to integrate WoT on it!
felipelalli: asciilifeform, I am trying to learn the whole thing yet. But I had to pause it.
mircea_popescu: 1.41, reasonably recent too
asciilifeform: felipelalli: this piece is just a lemma for the bigger thing
felipelalli: asciilifeform, I didn't have too much time yet to explore this project and your work but I follow far with twinkle in my eyes. Congrats!
asciilifeform: but please DO NOT USE in battlefield ! this or the next bit. it is for laboratory only !
asciilifeform: i forgot to put the skull and crossbones in there
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN9kDm )
felipelalli: like the session in gribble, I guess.
mircea_popescu: decent to learn on, i suppose.
mircea_popescu: there are specific choices in how gribble handles security that were expedient for a long time, but no longer acceptable, so it'd have to be rewritten. until it isn't, i would think it more like a play sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: there was some talk about harmonizing the two, but i don't think the guy has any time to be doing maintenance, or any interest for that matter, so...
danielpbarron: idk if it finally got fixed but it was the case that all someone needed to do was compromise your irc client and they could hijack your WoT identity
mircea_popescu: what happened is - we used gribble wot. then gribbe was offline unexpectedly, and its maintainer wasn't talking. he was traveling at the time, as we later found out. nevertheless, for those few days the situation was indistinguishable from an attack and so we made a replacement. ☟︎
danielpbarron: something like that; and I personally prefer assbot's authentication method to gribble's
felipelalli: thank you mircea_popescu! danielpbarron, yes, I remember, I was here when this fork was made. I remember some conversation about gribble being too much offline and another bot was necessary. Am I wrong?
danielpbarron: the b-a WoT is the same as the one in that post; the fork happened afterwards
mircea_popescu: felipelalli i do think it's very important, yes.
assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVvoFd )
felipelalli: In this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0 is very inspiring to me, and you said at that time that Bitcoin OTC WoT was very important. You don't think so anymore or the assbot WoT fully meets? For a new Bitcoin business, the OTC WoT is still important?
mircea_popescu: well, i like this one better, what can i say.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, that's why I asked you. But why?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, do you still consider Bitcoin OTC WoT (not assbot WoT) important to the Bitcoin community or not more?
srijan: great thanks!
srijan: *are the
srijan: is the btcalpha wot and btc-assets wot the same thing?
srijan: so the wot here: http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/ is the current snapshot?
assbot: 123 results for 'from:assbot " Successfully updated the rating"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aassbot+%22+Successfully+updated+the+rating%22
mircea_popescu: !s from:assbot " Successfully updated the rating"
mircea_popescu: yes, it's in the log.
srijan: is there any information about rating changes and rating deletions anywhere?
mircea_popescu: well, this is the best place, ask your question ?
srijan: hi everyone, I am a PhD student and I am looking for some help regarding the WoT network used here. Who should I be talking to ?
mircea_popescu: you can talk in here.
punkman: extra 25% processing fee tacked on, all of which goes to Vigilant."
punkman: "The government agency in turn gives Vigilant access to information about all its outstanding court fees, which the company then turns into a hot list to feed into the free ALPR systems. As police cars patrol the city, they ping on license plates associated with the fees. The officer then pulls the driver over and offers them a devil’s bargain: get arrested, or pay the original fine with an
assbot: "No Cost" License Plate Readers Are Turning Texas Police into Mobile Debt Collectors and Data Miners | Electronic Frontier Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/203c7hd )
asciilifeform home in record time - because usg was closed, no cars...
mircea_popescu: ah tis found ty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you happen to recall where the original thread was ?
mircea_popescu: sipa dumped tons and tons of code, most of which is shit.
BingoBoingo: Why would infestation coordinator need to write many lines himself?
punkman: also surprised that Gavin didn't write more lines than Satoshi
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386548 << more sipa than everyone else combined? ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: but it doesn't hurt to try.
ascii_butugychag: jurov: considerable. the thing probably won't keep time.
jurov: ascii_butugychag: how big slowdown is that?
ascii_butugychag: jurov: this from mod6's patch?!
jurov 's bitcoind segfaults in sha256_block_data_order, after properly and completely wiping out stack... now trying gdb's record&replay for first time
ascii_butugychag is perpetrating this horror on the other side of desk, it is difficult to fully contain
mircea_popescu: so then how is it objective ?!
ascii_butugychag: because it is a function of two inputs, the traveller and the destination.
mircea_popescu: how come you fail to identify argentina then ?
ascii_butugychag: that's the thing. ^ pisshole status is quite objectice.
BingoBoingo: It's Indonesia where they are spread about
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: They are pretty much all on one island
mircea_popescu: phillipines is preview of future of china in an alt-world where the us didn't go to shit.
BingoBoingo: For serious. I should totally move there. Would be great for de-USing my brain all of this other stupidity.
mircea_popescu: that's the logic of the great internet nation of teh phillipines!
mircea_popescu: Wouldn't it be extremely inefficient to manufacture a paper cup for everyone's coffee? That would be millions of paper cups per day, only to be used once. Coffee will never work.
mircea_popescu: "oh, isn't it inefficient to buy everyone a cup"
mircea_popescu: because this is just too fucking good lmao, like self-building comedy goldcube.
mircea_popescu: are all the imbeciles answering actually davout's alt accounts ?
mircea_popescu: ahaha this is epic.
assbot: ELI5: "Wouldn't it be extremely inefficient to copy every single coffee purchase on everyone's computer?" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1K9nUDx )
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell davout good job https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42tcqm/eli5_wouldnt_it_be_extremely_inefficient_to_copy/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386613 << ahahaha this should be in teh bash. ☝︎
adlai is more of a mechanic than he'd like, something something for insects
adlai trades time for time and sometimes btc trickle in. that is all, since this conversation doesn't seem to be helping anybody anymore
ascii_butugychag: i thought adlai ~had~ a trade - tank mechanic ☟︎
mircea_popescu: learn a trade already.
mircea_popescu: no idea what indiancandy school you went to, but no. nobody cares about specifically female retardation. it's not fascinating, nor sexy, nor even remotely interesting.
ascii_butugychag: the kind dropped into toilet ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: you know the "three things you can watch forever: fire burning, water flowing, people working"? needs an addition, "people bullshitting"
mircea_popescu: mno. cue "it is the halmark of unemployed aluminum siding salesmen to try and pretend " are "".
adlai: en teh archaea - fiat logos
adlai: cue "there is no logs but Logs, and you will have no other logs but these"
adlai: thus the scare quotes, and distinction from ~these~
mircea_popescu: so then it's not in the logs.
adlai: lol i don't think kako invited me here until months later
adlai celebrated "significantly more than two years" instead of astronomically precise anniversaries
adlai: early january 2014. i don't remember the exact date and frankly don't feel like trying to recall it.
adlai is "in the logs" describing the full episode, it's too long to fit in the margins of these. tl;dr: police visited, invited me along so nicely i couldn't refuse, but went home the next day. as danielpbarron pointed out, jail /= prison
adlai: ascii_butugychag: so, even if no single Sovereign invests in building and powering a coke machine (or worst - CMaaS! cloud coking! etc), my point is that the collected actions of all eight billion / fifteen thousand / etc sovereigns does turn the rock into a bit of a coke machine