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mircea_popescu: did you have to pay money for it ?!
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: I just got one of those mice from the vending machine. (We have vending machines at work for accessories. Slowly replacing IT with robots.)
mircea_popescu: but explain it to me so i grasp it ?
mod6: Chicken/Egg problem with that script then.
mircea_popescu: (actually half the reason to even have v is to run it with diff wotsets)
mod6: I can not reconcile this.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, you might wish to run v with diff wotsets.
mod6: so it should be populated by hand, outside of the build path, and referenced only in the script for access.
mircea_popescu: but it should still be a subdir of the working space rather than a fixed dir somewhere
mod6: I can do that just fine yes, but i don't think we should populate the .wot directory via script.
mircea_popescu: not to be a bitch, but for my own education.
mircea_popescu: or however you denote string addition in that language
mod6: make note that V does not /expect/ or /default/ to a ~/.wot dir, it just so happens in this case, that it needs to be somewhere accessable outside of the rotor build path
mircea_popescu: but you're telling me script creating directory $d can't create directory $d."/.wot" ?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 populated by hand, yes, that was the idea.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can have whatever weird lisp "1" you wish for as long as it evaluates to 1 lol
mod6: mircea_popescu: it has to be, there is no way that we can create and populate a .wot directory inside of a directory that is created by the script
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: its "the tor project" they can't fit all of that into a single bozobit. Requires a whole base58 encoded xml bozo turd.
mircea_popescu: the script ~must~ reference a .wot directory somewhere outside of the entire rotor build area. <<< wait wut ?!
mod6: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch wd ~/.wot
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UQkfe3 )
mod6: so I'm going to have the script reference ~/.wot -- this seems like a resonable place to put it -- again, V will not expect it to be there, so an additional param is placed in the V command as such:
mod6: One notable change to the build script linked on the wiki: Since we're pressing out V in a directory that gets created by the script, there is no way to have a .wot inside this dir that it can find -- the script ~must~ reference a .wot directory somewhere outside of the entire rotor build area.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this significantly changes the bozo bit on "the tor project" from "don't install that shit" to "don't install that shit".
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 07:18:40; danielpbarron: guy died basically saving the life of the fed
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388202 << why do the usg-tards look so much like attention whoring hipsters these days ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: lol, the Tor 'Tails' distro switched to systemd now
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 06:06:33; mod6: "Eventually we can migrate the whole RPC orchestra to this." << seems reasonable.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 04:27:23; ben_vulpes: arcane linker errors coming from the "pods"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388167 << they finally landed eh. ☝︎
mod6: All: Stand-by I've made some updates to the script referenced in the wiki as to drop in the latest version of V (with the latest 3 patches in the mirror) - im gonna test it, then post it here. It'd be good to have some of you test it too.
ascii_butugychag: mats: worth leeching and spending time readin ?
mats: ascii_butugychag: there is warez
PeterL: does it come with "right click", or do you have to add that?
thestringpuller: the joys of the walled garden.
ascii_butugychag: (quite worthless, i must note, without the aftermarker driver that lets you program new patterns in. need this in order even to have middle-click..)
ascii_butugychag: the thing with the capacitance sensor top
thestringpuller: or the white wireless mouse thing
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: the magic mouse?
ascii_butugychag: mats: so i wanted to go and read misra c, turns out it is payware ?
BingoBoingo: I might have to look into this tape.
ascii_butugychag: now i am fighting a compulsion to stick that tape to the bottom of every single object on my desk
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: they gave me this surprisingly spiffy apple mouse-touchsensor-chimera, but it has gigantic rails in contact with the table, and tremendous static friction. but it turns out that teflon will make it slide aaah so nicely along, like hockey puck..
ascii_butugychag: (i wanted the book for a reason)
ascii_butugychag: mod6: shiva is unabashedly a beachhead to eventually have the whole thing enlisped.
ascii_butugychag: but i will NOT tolerate a megatonne of rubbish in my vpatch just to rename a dir.
ascii_butugychag: (as my instructions note, it is necessary to rename a directory after pressing tinyscheme-genesis to end up with the shiva subdir in shiva patch)
ascii_butugychag: and so makes it quite impossible to properly have tinyscheme-genesis FULLY MACHINE-READABLY flow into shiva genesis
ascii_butugychag: i suppose this is when i restate my rage at the idiocy of gnudiff ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 06:06:33; mod6: "Eventually we can migrate the whole RPC orchestra to this." << seems reasonable.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388189 << i must say also that this is not why i wrote it, originally. this was an attempt at an online debugger, so i can interactively play with tx in mempool, issue db queries, etc. << very exciting stuff ☝︎
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfJl8P )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << cool! thanks for posting.
BingoBoingo: Aha, just don't heat the mouse over 500 degree farenheit
punkman: how's that
ascii_butugychag: what a small thing, how much less agony.
ascii_butugychag: aaaaah teflon mouse tape !
thestringpuller: the problem here is I doubt satoshi had any idea how visa and traditional payment systems scaled in comparison to bitcoin. ☟︎
thestringpuller: Nope. The people focused on traditional payment processing believe Bitcoin should scale to visa levels cuz "Satoshi said so"
PeterL: Visa is not comparable with visa, doesn't everybody already know that?
thestringpuller: GMaxwell is ranting up reddit repeating the Visa is not Comparable with Bitcoin thing.
BingoBoingo: And on that qntra page there's a bit more than a hundred KB of text on that page which gets compressed for transit
fluffypony: for anyone reading the logs I apologise for not providing a trigger warning
fluffypony: you're right, this is a safe space
fluffypony: have you tried maybe not kissing the computer?
trinque: I have seen this maybe 10 times by now
trinque: there is a kiss of death for btcd which halts it in its tracks, does not crash. ☟︎
assbot: NACDL Amicus: Silk Road Warrant Unconstitutional According To 4th Amendment | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZYuSgw )
BingoBoingo: Seriously though http://qntra.net/2016/01/nacdl-amicus-silk-road-warrant-unconstitutional-according-to-4th-amendment/ load less than 1/6th the data of http://www.coindesk.com/scaling-debate-bitcoin-core-outreach/ even when ignoring javascript
BingoBoingo: davout: Thank you
davout: BingoBoingo: "Qntra is the only Bitcoin news outlet committed to bringing Bitcoin news to Africa." <<< brilliant!
BingoBoingo: And for the bunny rabbit everything that moves and is not a fellow rabbit is acting in a concerted manner and an immanent threat.
PeterL: from the vantage point of the poor, "rich people" are also a unit which acts in a concerted manner
BingoBoingo: Even through my lens which is competely illiterate when it comes to the Chinese language, the miners seem to be having very spirited conversations.
BingoBoingo: At least It's what the derps think?
PeterL: are chinese miners some sort of unit that all must act together? ☟︎
shinohai: A poor toomlin got his feelings hurt
BingoBoingo: And the lolz roll on https://i.imgur.com/Q2X24B7.png ☟︎
PeterL: Is there a way while it is running to tell it to switch back to the nodes you started it with?
PeterL: my node is syncing, seemed to be getting tons of junk. I restarted it, using -addnode with the nodes from the wiki, seems to be going good again. ☟︎
punkman: mats, it says ECC "not working" though now. also saw a supermicro G series board that only has non-ECC
PeterL: ^ I was just about to say the same thing!
shinohai: Everyone has spiffy node names but I. I just call mine that thing in the corner.
BingoBoingo: In other news 'Quantrill' is now synced up to the beginning of 2014.
BingoBoingo: mats: AMD tends to have ECC as an available option in all of their chips except the consumer stuff, and even then it usually isn't the chip where ECC is precluded.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bank Of Japan Takes Interest Rates Negative - http://qntra.net/2016/01/bank-of-japan-takes-interest-rates-negative/
BingoBoingo: Google is unrevealing on this matter because fucking phoronix spam clogs these keywords
BingoBoingo: So, I'm thinking about returning to linux... maybe. Any idea if RadeonSI drivers would work on a musl kernel?
mats: of the 'underhanded programming guide' variety
asciilifeform: rather like the other blockchain.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388268 << absolutely not, the very notion is a violation of vtronics. NOW on the OTHER HAND - human-powered 'gardening' of the vtree is a perfectly fine thing. notice how mod6 is doing a splendid job of it. BUT conceivably it is also possible for archaeologists to take all of the orphaned crud i ever pasted and come up with a correct vtree ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 10:02:07; punkman: so shiva patch wholly includes the tinyscheme genesis instead of referencing it?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388260 << now fixed! see this thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell polarbeard when writing a patch, consider the effort required to properly grasp EVERY LINE
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 08:08:31; ben_vulpes: "this 2.6kloc patch rewrites every log line in the reference implementation, in support of further work i'm doing on" etc etc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388233 << ah yeah let's pleeze not this ☝︎
asciilifeform: (it still contains a historical ball of crud, tinyscheme.)
asciilifeform: the latter is now to be considered properly vtronic.
asciilifeform: anyway, to go back to business, the pedigree bridge makes it possible to read, in one sitting, all of the changes i made to the classical tinyscheme which ends up in shiva.
BingoBoingo: Or trying to introduce crap