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mod6: mircea_popescu: hey, just because im curious -- let me know if you get past 252`450 -- or if you'd rather, check and see if you have the most recent db.cpp
mod6: shinohai: that *is* weird.
mircea_popescu: minor snags as detailed in logs. but nothing really worth the mention
shinohai: btw mod6 I still have to add the export PERL_MM_OPT= to mine to get it to run, dunno what weird issue I have that causes it.
mircea_popescu: mod6 : latest trb v99996 on 91.218.246.31 says "blocks" : 4500, "connections" : 13,
PeterL: I always hated when we had to use a room in the physics department, they used whiteboards
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 19:57:06; mircea_popescu: hey, best part of physics lab was the blackboard imo
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389165 << the MSU Chemistry department is decidedly standardized on chalk. We had these nice 1" thick chalk, was great for drawing molecules you could read from the back of the lecture hall ☝︎
mod6: hanbot: did you get it to work too?
mod6: btw, did it ever build ok for you after the 'bc' issue?
mod6: you think i should copy it somewhere in the v99996 build script before i jump onto other things? i'd rather just let sleeping dogs lie there, just because very soon we're gonna ditch it anyway.
mod6: mircea_popescu: no specific reason, we just leave it in place after compilation. moving to trinque's setup resolves this.
mircea_popescu: mod6 and in the same vein as prev comment : why does bitcoind end up in /bitcoin/src ?
trinque: that sounds good to me.
mod6: two weeks kinda sounds like it might be a lot, but you know how this stuff goes ;)
mod6: which would allow us some full testing time - at the end of which, we sign patches and call it a release.
mod6: I feel like, if you and I put some serious effort with help from #b-a, for like 2 weeks, we'd really be somewhere by the end of february.
mod6: <+trinque> I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me. << no rush here. i'd like to dig into this sometime next week.
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. ... << for now, as far as I'm concerned, this is totally ok. we'll have to worry about other *nix's after we perfect getting linux x86-64 done with a CD to boot also. ☝︎
trinque: I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements << yeah, please, if you have the time, i'd really like to work with you to help us not only get the makefiles updated with the latest V and other things, but to also figure out all of this stuff. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389199 << certainly, I'd be happy to host it << outstanding, thanks! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn't support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. perhaps this is the place to add an openbsd builder, which could apply unofficial patches as they are necessary after V press ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:34:34; mod6: as soon as i get through the end of this month, a renewed emphasis will be put on ditching this script, and getting to a finished place with trinque's makefiles that'll hopefully be easier to understand.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 20:10:39; mod6: and upon a few others successfully building, trinque, can you work your magic with deedbot and place that guy in there so its like deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-v99996K.sh or whatever?
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389199 << certainly, I'd be happy to host it ☝︎
punkman: does the trb server have room for a buildatron that eats patches and craps out bitcoind's? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai drinks to tmsr~ [~]D
mod6: I feel good about the work that you all put in this month. Thanks to everyone who helped the republic be successful this month.
mod6: so stragicially, we're moving in the correct direction there.
mod6: i do think, as a republic, we're laying the groundwork for that at some point to be a possibility.
mod6: this to me always seems like a shaky idea -- ONLY even a possibility if we get all the compiler garbage fixed so that it produces (bitwise) the ~exact~ same binary every single time.
punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't this guy be better off downloading a signed binary? ☟︎
mod6: And hopefully, this will end some of our tooling issues for a while, and we can focus on the large engineering issues at hand.
mod6: As soon as we have our new build process in place, and it's sane, and "Works" and "fits in head" and all that, then we'll release.
mod6: which, I aim to work on tonight :]
mod6: that will be my main goal as soon as the SoBA for january is complete.
mod6: trinque did us all a huge favor, but we need to perfect the thing and make it a "no brainer"
shinohai: It goes with the territory though. So many moving parts and this is relatively young in it's existence
mod6: if someone says "hey fuck these ``Classic and XT clowns, I want REAL BITCOIN'', then we need to ensure that they can build that.
mod6: what good is fixing the mempool or other things if they can't build it and use it today?
mod6: But we can't work on that, until we have something that people can use today.
mod6: Then we'll be ready to take on the more challenging parts this year -- i.e. the mempool etc.
mod6: However, the process to build said binary is quite arduous and we need to perfect that part.
mod6: Yeah, the good news is: We have a statically linked bitcoind that has come quite a long way from where we started. Infact, the original version flat out will not work any longer -- ala TomServo's issue.
mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much -- but at least enough to install Linux can build this with a "single button push"
shinohai: I won't lie those, there are times I cry " mod6 HALP!!!!"
shinohai: I can work with it because I've used variation of it for so many builds. But I understand the issues at hand.
mod6: the entire build process is incredibly complex and we need to desperately reduce that compelxity as much as we can. ☟︎
mod6: if hanbot and Mr. P. can get through it ok, then we'll deedbot it -- not that I feel good about it - I don't. The thing isn't what we really want... it's just what we have, for now. :/
shinohai: The Ubuntu server is remote - lost connection and had to reconnect
mod6: ok sweet. that's a good thing.
shinohai: Ok my old Ubuntu server and the other Deb machine both built with the script pete_dushenski posted earlier
mod6: There are steps that I can let you know about to walk you through setting this up and logging your every move so we can all discover what it is that isn't working on your end. Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that for somereason you are ending up with a super downlevel version of db.cpp -- which is why you're getting stuck on 252`450
mod6: But we should attempt to get to the bottom of this as soon as possible.
mod6: Please, let's work together to discover what that might be. I'm worried that either V is failing on your side for some reason (it seems to not be pressing out the tree correctly) -- maybe you tried to build over an old build space, or who knows.
mod6: for sure let me know if there are other ones that you wanna know about :]
mod6: if you have .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf -- then you shouldn't need to use the flag: -conf ☟︎
mod6: if you want to connect to just a single node instead of many, use: -connect (instead of -addnode)
mod6: if you want to send btc and not get malleated, you may use: -lows
mod6: if you want to verify all signatures in a block; use -verifyall
mod6: if so you need to use -datadir=
mod6: But it totally depends. It depends on if you have ~/.bitcoin available for your blockchain repo, or if its in a different place.
mod6: <+hanbot> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &` ☝︎
shinohai: you have my support for as many hours of testing and reporting as needed. o7
mod6: so yeah, after the first, will be a main focus there -- all are encouraged to help me get to this goal.
mod6: no exceptions to this.
mod6: it doesn't scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds. ☟︎
mod6: obviously this is not how we want things to be -- will be the main focus to be to get rid of the build script we're using today and move to a version of trinque's makefiles.
shinohai: I just nuked my entire rotor directory on build machine every time I am doing an update
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong. ☟︎
mod6: what's the cannonical makeclean, rm -rf * in /rotor ? << yeah, i would just blowaway the entire 'rotor' directory along with all the V stuff. the stuff that I would save is just the .wot dir, the keys contained therein, and of course, your ~/.gnupg stuff (ofc. have backups etc (this is for everyone who blew their keys away once)) : then totally restart the entire script.
BingoBoingo: Looks like fiat intends to declare war on Aedes aegypti and Aedes albopictus
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: 99996k built and running. back to scarfing blocks. should be synced early next week. << ok awesome, glad you got it working
mod6: ok lemme try to answer some questions here...
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 00:23:19; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389517 <<< Sadly it seems everyone in America feels entitled to make manufacturers do as they wish. ☝︎
danielpbarron: heh the boy is touching himself
punkman: guess that 40MW-600phash calculation I saw in some comments somewhere might be off a bit
punkman: "16nm chips for total hashpower of 12PH/s, 1.5MW (rev1) or 16PH/s, 2MW (rev2)"
punkman: (12 petahash, aka one bitfury container thingie)
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: shinohai: It takes currency codes only so instead of "sweet young virgins" you gotta enter "cntvs" for "cunt, virgin sweet"
punkman: bitfury's 40MW datacenter could do 600petahash with their 16nm chips
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | None % based on data since last change | 11.54629 % based on data for last three days
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
phf: actually that one seems to be buggy? there isn't any branching, they all are linear. hmm
phf: and the one ascii requested, transition graph for when there's only one hunk per patch file http://glyf.org/tmp/trb-transition-hunks-asplode.png (i filtered out all the genesis files that don't have further transitions)
mircea_popescu: 2nd one seems to run ok
mircea_popescu: ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2
shinohai: Only time I have stopped mine is for upgrades. Otherwise it runs merrily along all day.
danielpbarron: and it's been going uninterrupted since more-or-less the beginning (i stopped and started it after the first few k blocks for some reason)
danielpbarron: my node (the one i started at the same time as Mircea) is still chugging along happily; now at height=367932
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: sounds identical to the strauss-kahn set-up
punkman: hanbot, so if you don't use nohup, you can also get rid of the redirection at the end "2>&1 &"